ya. it's freaking side splitting affair, Let's start with this - Dr's write Rx's based on subjective criteria - recall MM is a Schedule 1 drug "no legitimate uses" by the FDA.Althea;1073253 [QUOTE said:
We both know there are medicaa uses - beyond the one's you mentions such as cancer pain, or AIDS wasting syndrome.
I've found evidence it even helps with retinitis pigmentosa. Also macular degeneration -and glaucoma. 100's of conditions.
The problem with glaucoma is the reduction in occolar pressure is only short alleviation - so pharmaceutical drugs are more long lasting, but MM still works.
Start to do some reseacrh ( or i'll do it if necessary) that shows 100's of uses for MM - even cannibinois #5 is in research for flesh eating bacteria/
The point here is there are so many uses, and since the Dr.'s may know them, they prescribe, what you (not you personally) don't easily
recognize as normal useage.
Which means there are ppl spread out all over that stae/country whom may find alleviation from MM.
Until the fed's re-Schedule -it's up to Dr's to use their best judgement -because there isn't any PDR(Physician's Desk Reference) they can refer to.
I mean the detail men (phamaceurical reps) don't come around with brochures, and samples like they do with Dr.s.-right?
All of which shows possibly millions of Rx's may be written for the 'burnouts' whom really are patients.
But you deny the widespread useage is legit. I don't affirm,but i'm not in denial either. I figure is this odd situation; it's up to the Dr. and patient.
Ok. what point are you making here? Thtat's its difficult to research? I agree. you have an illegal drug used for medical uses, there is going to be "skewed data"
LA banned the entire industry. check out this clusterfuck
For years, Los Angeles has been a mecca for medical marijuana dispensaries. Anyone with a doctor's recommendation could stop in at chic storefronts offering cannabis-laced desserts or at the more underground clinics, labeled only with a green cross. Hundreds, maybe 1,000 of these pot shops popped up around L.A.
City officials tried to get a handle on the proliferation, with endless meetings, community hearings, police raids and lawsuits. Finally, the council decided "enough is enough," says City Councilman Jose Huizar, who wrote a bill outlawing all dispensaries. The council overwhelmingly passed the ban in July.
"It was getting way out of control," Huizar says. "A thousand dispensaries? Some neighborhoods have two per block, and young people have access. They go around the corner, they smoke it. Crime increases around these dispensaries, the traffic, the robberies."
Huizar's bill didn't outlaw medical marijuana, but it did call for a so-called "gentle ban," which would allow only three or fewer patients or their caregivers to grow their own.
At one pot clinic in L.A.'s Franklin Heights neighborhood, Egyptian meditation music mingles with the scents of indica, sativa and hybrid marijuana strains. Sitting in the front office is Marc O'Hara, the executive director of Patient Care Alliance Los Angeles. He scoffs at the idea that a gentle ban would provide access to medical marijuana.
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"It's inconceivable to think that three homebound patients suffering from spasticity, cancer, autism could somehow pull together the wherewithal to produce medicine with the potency and the medicinal effect of what's grown by the best cultivators on the planet," O'Hara says.
His group is suing the city over its handling of medical marijuana clinics. His colleague Tiffany Wright, who says she's a cannabis patient, says the city's ban would drive legitimate users underground.
"I feel like we're almost being forced back into the dark ages," she says. "Nobody that I know who's a card-carrying patient wants to get their medicine from some suspect in a dark alley, that could potentially be contaminated with mold and pesticides, with no knowledge of who grew it or where it's been grown."http://www.npr.org/2012/09/06/160654734/los-angeles-pot-ban-suspended-for-now
Better to have access then not -where we seem to hit the wall of disagreement. Sure there are scammers, but we're talking weed, one of the most innocuous substances around. You can't get sick/overdose on weed. CAUTION: "burnout zone" is possible.
I'm sure, im not all that interested, as I don't consider it a problem as much as denying legitimate useage. It's early for me, but the "weed war thread" shows just how patchwork a state network we have, there are going to be problems in diagnosis, distribution.
Until it becomes something other then Schedule 1, it's best to do what Ryan said." Let the states handle their own affairs".
Obama did promise that much (sorta. like he always weseals his words).
We can quibble over what was said, but unleashinfg the USDA's on fishing expeditions was clearly something he didn't say.
He even got a new memo (Cole ) -I think it's DEA presure, but Obama already used Exec priv. to "sop disclosure of DoJ internal deliberaion" in Fast and Furious -so we're just guessing.
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NO. ON TOPIC. Your the one wo keeps bringing up drug diversion as this critical problem.
.EXCEPT NO CRIMINAL LAWS WERE BROKEN IN THE CLOSURE OF DISPENSARYS -just the threat of RICO by the USDA's is what closed them. There are a few that prolly did break zoning laws ( like Long Beach raid) but that is not CRIMINAL law.
I want Holder to stay out of state law as far as possible, as the Ogden memo showed. we're not talking individual possesssion, why do you bring this up?
we just disagree, on the EvilWeed diversion to the 'stoners' is a big problem.
I would rather have same diversion (as in any drug distribution), then lack of patient access.
The real answer is to put in in legit pharmacies - as a Schedule 2 drug. Until that happens, dispensarys have to self screen ,and keep records.
most do that,if itis a clinic that doesnt -OK shut it down.
But until the DEA gets off this, and lets the states do their best, all this accomplishes is driving the underground market.
sadly with Sativex do out -it's not going to happen -Obama is making that pretty clear ( and he could have the Atty General simply declare it a Schedule 2).
But Obama is bowing to big pharma. we were THIS CLOSE to somewhat of a sane marijuana policy, until the new RICO threats threw everyone into utter confuson.
No. where do you get 90%??
Noone knows he %'s -we do know many are now unabe to receive their medication
Have a good one Althea -I got termite prob to take care of again ( damn Florida is a swamp)
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"no legitimate medical use" means EVERYTHING.Even cocaine is Schedule 2. it means any state law on MM is inherently "illegal", as shown by Gonzalez v Raich.