Scientists study huge plastic patch in Pacific

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Scientists study huge plastic patch in Pacific
By Steve Gorman Posted Tue Aug 4, 2009 5:42am PDT


LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Marine scientists from California are venturing this week to the middle of the North Pacific for a study of plastic debris accumulating across hundreds of miles (km) of open sea dubbed the "Great Pacific Garbage Patch."

A research vessel carrying a team of about 30 researchers, technicians and crew members embarked on Sunday on a three-week voyage from the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, based at the University of California at San Diego.

The expedition will study how much debris -- mostly tiny plastic fragments -- is collecting in an expanse of sea known as the North Pacific Ocean Gyre, how that material is distributed and how it affects marine life.

The debris ends up concentrated by circular, clockwise ocean currents within an oblong-shaped "convergence zone" hundreds of miles (km) across from end to end near the Hawaiian Islands, about midway between Japan and the West Coast of the United States.

The focus of the study will be on plankton, other microorganisms, small fish and birds.

"The concern is what kind of impact those plastic bits are having on the small critters on the low end of the ocean food chain," Bob Knox, deputy director of research at Scripps, said on Monday after the ship had spent its first full day at sea.

The 170-foot vessel New Horizon is equipped with a laboratory for on-board research, but scientists also will bring back samples for further study.

Little is known about the exact size and scope of the vast debris field discovered some years ago by fishermen and others in the North Pacific that is widely referred to as the "Great Pacific Garbage Patch."

http://green.yahoo.com/news/nm/20090804/us_nm/us_ocean_plastics.html
 
It's not actually like an island of garbage. It's just a place where there is a large amount of small plastic fragments - which is clearly still an ecological catastrophe.
 
It's not actually like an island of garbage. It's just a place where there is a large amount of small plastic fragments - which is clearly still an ecological catastrophe.


I was wondering about that. It seems that the imagery would be remarkable but I suppose that given the size of the debris the a photograph doesn't have the effect you may think it would have.
 
It has to be able to be seen in a photograph then. Shoot, satellites should be able to see a patch of plastic that large.
 
If you took a picture of it it would look like the ocean. :-/

That's why when you go to google images and search for it you don't see any floating piles of trash. The newspaper descriptions of the area were rather sensational.
 
If you took a picture of it it would look like the ocean. :-/

That's why when you go to google images and search for it you don't see any floating piles of trash. The newspaper descriptions of the area were rather sensational.

you mean you wouldn't be able to see the tons of garbarge?
 
Instead of studying it, why the hell don't they clean it up? They are there anyway, grab some nets and scoop the shit out of the water for crying out loud.
 
Instead of studying it, why the hell don't they clean it up? They are there anyway, grab some nets and scoop the shit out of the water for crying out loud.

Studying it is the first step.

It's so large that a few scientific vessels going out there with nets and scooping it up would be a complete and total waste of money. You'd need lots of people and specialized equipment to make a dent.
 
The solution to this mess is to build a Waste to Energy (WTE) plant on a barge and haul it out there. Set it up to dewater, then burn the plastic, and run a steam driven generator to make hydrogen. Convert a few container ships to burn hydrogen as an auxiliary fuel, and have them stop on route between Japan and California to fuel up. Current technology to harvest lake weeds can be used to harvest the fuel, then loaded onto the WTE plant. *shrug*
 
The solution to this mess is to build a Waste to Energy (WTE) plant on a barge and haul it out there. Set it up to dewater, then burn the plastic, and run a steam driven generator to make hydrogen. Convert a few container ships to burn hydrogen as an auxiliary fuel, and have them stop on route between Japan and California to fuel up. Current technology to harvest lake weeds can be used to harvest the fuel, then loaded onto the WTE plant. *shrug*

Which would make sense if it were economically positive. I seriously doubt you've done your math there.

It may make more sense and be a lot cheaper to just throw some nets down there and scoop it up.
 
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