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Scott Pelli interviews Obama
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OMG. I never said anything like what you guys are all crying about. I personally hate football, it's very violent. I've certainly been to my share of superbowl parties, some in homes, some in sports bars, when I was younger. Until I finally drew the line and said, that's not for me, I am not going, no. I can't stand the screaming and the yelling and the cursing, the boozing, and the disgusting smell of people after they have inhaled several plates of chicken wings. Oh it is so disgusting.
As for DV, I don't know the stats, and said so. Anytime there are large amounts of alcohol, there is violence. Christmas is no different. And for many people, days in ending in Y are no different.
You men are very emotional about this, maybe they make Pamprin for football junkies?
And ILA I don't personally believe in shooting people in the head, but if I heard that someone shot you in the head, I'd understand.
As for DV, I don't know the stats, and said so. Anytime there are large amounts of alcohol, there is violence. Christmas is no different. And for many people, days in ending in Y are no different.
You men are very emotional about this, maybe they make Pamprin for football junkies?
And ILA I don't personally believe in shooting people in the head, but if I heard that someone shot you in the head, I'd understand.
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That's very interesting. I never made any such claim, but I see that it was taken that way by overeager men. But the link is interesting. I had no idea that this was a controversy. I didn't know about that tv ad from twenty years ago. It must have made quite a splash since apparently you are all still butthurt over it.
I've read the snopes link carefully. It's very confusing. It seems to say one thing while linking to experts that say another. What the experts seem to be saying is that they have no clue. I wonder, have you bothered to read that? Because the more I read it, the more it raises my hackles.
The first quote the original claims, which state that there is anecdotal evidence that there is a 40% rise in DV on Superbowl study. That's a shocking number, and I don't see any studies backing it. But the original claim was that anecdotal evidence suggested this. Anecdotal evidence in the form of asking people who work in shelters and man DV hotlines. Then someone mentioned a study that showed that there was a 40% increase in DV. Or did she say that? I would like to see her saying that, because what I see is two different claims - one being made about anecdotal evidence, and one being made about police reports and hospital admissions. But for our purposes, let's say she specified this study showed a 40% increase. She was wrong. But what was she wrong that there was an increase?
This is what "debunks" the claim:
"one of the authors of the study" said "that's not what we found at all". I am very curious as to what question she was answering when she said that. It doesn't show the question. Because she goes on to show that indeed, there is an increase:
One of the most notable findings...was that an increase in emergency room admissions "was not associated iwth the occurrence of football games in general, nor with watching a team lose". When they looked at win days alone however, they found that the number of women admitted for gunshot wounds, stabbings, assaults, falls, lacerations and wounds from being hit by objects was slightly higher than average"
She went on to say that "these are very interesting but very tentative findings, suggesting what violence there is from males after football may spring not from a feeling of defensive insecurity, which you'd associate with a loss, but from the sense of empowerment following a win" We found that significant. But it certainly doesn't support what those women are saying in Pasadena".
So they did find something. And "those women in Pasadena" weren't making claims about this study, other than supposedly one woman. And we don't know exactly what she said.
It seems to me that you have proved that there is a (slight) increase in DV. I'd be interested in seeing the stats on male on male violence for Superbowl Sunday in particular. But a study about sports in general, and I found some about the World Cup in other countries, would be good.
So in closing: I never made any claim about DV on Superbowl sunday being more prevalent than any other day, but I apparently stumbled into a 20 years long butthurt bender. I learned some interesting things about an event I had no knowledge of from 20 years ago. And... you have shown evidence that there is a slight increase in DV on so-called winning days.
I learned one more thing - I don't like the editorializing Snopes did there. Talk about your snarky paragraphs. Specifically the one which begins "after all, everyone knows that men are loutish brutes.." WOW!!!! Sounds like Tom wrote that in a butthurt marathon after 5 hours at the pub!!
I will definitely be giving a side-eye to anything coming out of snopes from now on. Very interesting. Thanks for the information Damo.
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Darla
I don't think that this one particular article supports this conclusion String. Or really much of any conclusion. It's interesting, I had no idea about any of this, but you've got my curiosity up and I'm going to look into it now. I wonder if any newer studies have been done? And whether they would have included male on male violence? I saw an article yesterday about a rise in car accidents on Superbowl Sunday but I didn't read it because I don't care. I was never interested in the day. I also saw the junk food article. I have no idea what backs up any of it, but I'll check it out.
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Darla
The way you all read into a comment I made was butthurt. I couldn't believe it when I read this thread this morning. My God.
What is wrong with this site? Is it being hacked again? Remember the last time it was like this and you said there was an attempt at hacking it? It's been bad all morning again.
They moved the server to some new node. I'm having them reboot again because it sucks. But, so far it seems to have helped.
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I can't even read your comment now Damo. I will just come back when the site is back to normal. It's very blinky today.
The first study cited showed a slight increase in injuries that might be related to domestic violence on win days. So if anything winning increased domestic violence. Overall, there seemed to be no change.
It's one study and it does not support the hyperbolic claims of increased domestic violence and shows no connection to anger over losses.
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Darla
I made no claims, hyperbolic or otherwise, nor was I aware that these claims were ever made.
It did raise a subject that I found interesting after looking into it, as I said. I would be interested in seeing any further studies, not just here, and not just as relates to DV. DV stats are not my forte. I have only the most cursory familiarity with them. It's not a subject I wish to pursue. But violence levels ( including DWI deaths) during and following sporting events would be something I'd read more on, if more information is available.
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It does seem better now, thanks.
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It does seem better now, thanks.
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Change o' subject - what did everyone think of the halftime show?
I kind of like Beyonce, and thought it was a good performance - but family friendly? I hate to sound like a puritan, but I thought it was over the top for that setting.
I kind of like Beyonce, and thought it was a good performance - but family friendly? I hate to sound like a puritan, but I thought it was over the top for that setting.
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Darla
Damo - I spoke too soon! it is okay until I make a post and then it goes all crazy.
Onceler, I didn't see it, I want to watch it on my computer but haven't gotten a chance to yet. Is the superbowl really family friendly do you think though? I know the ads are usually hyper-sexualized. Remember the uproar over Janet Jackson's nipple?
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Yeah - no doubt about it; the commercials are bad too (there were some yesterday that were just mind-boggling). Janet Jackson deserved the uproar; how do you not think of who will be watching? A little bit of the same w/ Beyonce last night. It was kind of a glorified stripper atmosphere she seemed to be going for.
If I was watching w/ young kids - which millions do - I would have been ticked about it.
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I lost my Superbowl bet....to my wife....I had to massage her feet.......I'm still traumatized.