Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Yeah I know...you keep rehashing LONG DISPROVEN neocon/Shrub propaganda. That's okay....willfully ignorant necons don't know any better. Carry on.
Sean Hannity...propaganda minister
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Yeah I know...you keep rehashing LONG DISPROVEN neocon/Shrub propaganda. That's okay....willfully ignorant necons don't know any better. Carry on.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
What they voted for was HJ114. Go read it thoroughly, master mind....because the Shrub had to prove to the Congress his case before invasion. He never did, and in fact stated in a speech that he would not wait for evidence that "might come in the form of a mushroom cloud".
Now you have a choice....either read HJ114 or be humiliated by me when you start lying and BS'ing about it.
uscitizen
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meme
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heheheheh...that spinning making you dizzy, you do seem a little ditsy lately..
I posted the reply to the person who said Hussain didn't have any Wmd's..
I have to read nothing for you...tired of the blow up, already..? try arguing with the other hole in it for awhile..
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Ahhh, Freedumb's lapdog....the neocon calvary has arrived.
Pity you don't have the guts or brains to actually debate the issue, or deal with the FACTS Just Plain Politics! - View Single Post - Sean Hannity...propaganda minister
And since I'm not a cruel man, I would strongly urge you NOT to vocalize your ignorance about Taichi in public too much...because the original form is NOT just what you see old folk do in the park. And although your adversary might not have my 5ft 11in 190lb frame, they could do some serious damage to you. My old sifu was still running his school at 75!
Oh well, I'm sure you'll have lots of maudlin exchanges with the other willfully ignorant neocon parrots here. Have fun, you Loyal end you!
If you've got to try and prove it, then your just another fool that likes to blow his own horn.
Speaking of "lap dogs", I see you were finally allowed to jump down from darla's pillow.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Translation: He doesn't have a clue what HJ114 was all about...and dare not read it. And since he cannot logically or factually refute anything I've posted in our exchanges, he just blows more willfully ignorant smoke.
Keep laughing chuckles....that's about all you've got, because you're debating skills aren't worth a damn.
meme
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wow, when did I have a sex change?
let me translate, I don't care to debate a smart ass, so called know it all..I put in my two cents, if you don't like it, tough shit..
now go blow off the blow up...ta ta
uscitizen
Villified User
Why would you want to blow up an Indian mega corporation?
meme
New member
Huh????? please, if you don't know what's being talked about, don't make up things. K
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Translation: He doesn't have a clue what HJ114 was all about...and dare not read it. And since he cannot logically or factually refute anything I've posted in our exchanges, he just blows more willfully ignorant smoke.
Keep laughing chuckles....that's about all you've got, because you're debating skills aren't worth a damn.
So you have a neurotic tic or something? Because you keep stating you don't give a damn and don't want to debate, yet you keep posting your opinions and rebuttals to what others are discussing. Strange.
Here's the deal, sweetpea...you post on these boards, you run the risk of being criticized, questioned, challenged and analyzed. If you can't handle that, then don't post. Otherwise, these little rants of yours come off as a pissy, ignorant teenager or a woman whose one brick shy of a load. Adios!
Translation: He doesn't have a clue what HJ114 was all about...and dare not read it. And since he cannot logically or factually refute anything I've posted in our exchanges, he just blows more willfully ignorant smoke.
Keep laughing chuckles....that's about all you've got, because you're debating skills aren't worth a damn.
wow, when did I have a sex change? When did you announce your gender? Sorry if I missed that....must have been a major event.let me translate, I don't care to debate a smart ass, so called know it all..I put in my two cents, if you don't like it, tough shit..
now go blow off the blow up...ta ta
So you have a neurotic tic or something? Because you keep stating you don't give a damn and don't want to debate, yet you keep posting your opinions and rebuttals to what others are discussing. Strange.
Here's the deal, sweetpea...you post on these boards, you run the risk of being criticized, questioned, challenged and analyzed. If you can't handle that, then don't post. Otherwise, these little rants of yours come off as a pissy, ignorant teenager or a woman whose one brick shy of a load. Adios!
meme
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USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
You're about as sweet as your girlfriend was............not very
adios, finally
Don't fucking count on it.
He's got the longest fucking good-bye's in history.
They usually take 3 or 4 days and any number of posts.
He's said guod-bye to me, at least a dozen times, and he just can't seem to STFD AND STFU.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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No, he most certainly didn't, and you haven't posted anything to show he did.
Suicide bombers in Iraq are not the 9/11 attacks, dumbass! Ba'athists and foreign terrorists are not the 9/11 attackers, dimwit! You are taking a statement completely out of context, and inferring your own meaning to it, and trying to claim that is what was said, which is a completely dishonest lie.
And they DO go back a decade! Again, "connection to alQaeda" does not equal "connection to 9/11 attacks!" There were as many as eight meetings.... I posted this already... the people MET, you retard! Now, if they MET... THAT WAS CONNECTION! It's physically impossible to MEET and NOT make a connection! You want to argue, since they didn't work out a collaborative deal (which no one claimed they did) that this means there was never any connection, and that is patently untrue. There WAS a connection, it has been established. They did not (as far as we know) collaborate on the 9/11 attacks together, and no one has ever made that claim.
Well, your source explains a lot of your fucking insanity! How can you, with a straight face, post shit from a pure left-wing propaganda outlet, and pass it off as some kind of 'credible information' to the rest of us? You know, if someone on the right tried to get away with this shit, they'd be run completely off this board! Get real dude, if you're going to post information, at least post stuff from some recognized major news source!
And Oh BY THE FUCKING WAY.... In a video speech from September, 2007... It is OSAMA BIN LADEN who declares Iraq as "the central front" in the war on western civilization (aka: War on Terror). NOT GEORGE BUSH!
DONE DONE AND DONE! Moron!
Again... credible evidence of collaboration found by the CIA, does not mean there was no connection. It only means there was no evidence found of collaboration! That doesn't even mean there wasn't collaboration, just that no credible evidence was found, and no one ever claimed they did collaborate! But there certainly WAS a connection, it is patently IMPOSSIBLE to MEET with each other, and not CONNECT! Dumbass!
He lived there from Feb. 26, 1993, when he fled the US. His name is Abdul Rahman Yasin, and the CIA has a whole great big file on him, as he was the only '93 WTC bomber who was never caught.
On February 26, 1993, Yasin boarded Royal Jordanian flight 262 to Amman, Jordan. From Amman, Abdul Rahman Yasin went on to Baghdad. An ABC news stringer saw him there in 1994, outside his father's house, and learned from neighbors that he worked for the Iraqi government. In Baghdad, Iraq, Yasin lived freely for at least a year. Pointing to Saddam Hussein regime's involvement in World Trade Center bombing was evidence it gave money and housing to Yasin. The Iraqi government later claimed he was arrested and put in prison. After the invasion of Iraq, the financial records of Saddam's regime confirmed he had been paid by the Iraqi government.
The argument is NOT whether there was a collaboration! You are claiming there was NO CONNECTION TO alQaeda, and there WAS! Again.... physically IMPOSSIBLE to MEET and not CONNECT! It doesn't matter if there was a collaborative effort, or workable liaison, that is not the argument! Had that been the case, it would have directly implicated Saddam Hussein in the 9/11 attacks, and again, no one has ever claimed that to be the case.
No, what we have is a continued distortion of the facts and deliberate ignorance of the truth from you. Nothing has been "disproven" by you or your left-wing propaganda blogs. You've not scored a single point in this debate, and you should really consider shutting up and moving on at this point, because I have made you look completely incompetent.
And yes... don't worry, I plan to carry on!
uscitizen
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Something was said about blowing up Tata.
uscitizen
Villified User
You are talkiing about voting for Bush?
christiefan915
Catalyst
well if Bush lied, then these people are liars also....
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from USA but, what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.Constitution and Laws, to take necessary actions, (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has .. chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue a pace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998.
We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities.
Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated
the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan.23.2003
And if you scratch the surface you'll see that a sound bite doesn't necessarily represent the comment in its entirety.
Origins: All of the quotes listed above are substantially correct reproductions of statements made by various Democratic leaders regarding Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's acquisition or possession of weapons of mass destruction. However, some of the quotes are truncated, and context is provided for none of them — several of these quotes were offered in the course of statements that clearly indicated the speaker was decidedly against unilateral military intervention in Iraq by the U.S. Moreover, several of the quotes offered antedate the four nights of airstrikes unleashed against Iraq by U.S. and British forces during Operation Desert Fox in December 1998, after which Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen and Gen. Henry H. Shelton (chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) announced the action had been successful in "degrad[ing] Saddam Hussein's ability to deliver chemical, biological and nuclear weapons."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp
christiefan915
Catalyst
bush criticized Kamel's 1995 debriefing by officials from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and the U.N. inspections team known as UNSCOM and spun the information negatively to ramp up approval for his illegal, immoral war, yet circumstances proved Kamel to be right and bush to be wrong. Where are the WMD? What legitimate sources do you have that prove Kamel was wrong?
Something besides insults about blow up dolls would be helpful.