Secession Is Not A Bad Idea

again, are you reducing harm by forcing people to be unarmed and defenseless?

Me, personally? No, I believe in gun ownership. My point here is that all politics is about harm reduction. If you're not going to vote because neither candidate is perfect, then you'll probably never vote. And in some cases, one candidate is so much worse than the other, that it's irresponsible to not vote.
 
Me, personally? No, I believe in gun ownership. My point here is that all politics is about harm reduction. If you're not going to vote because neither candidate is perfect, then you'll probably never vote. And in some cases, one candidate is so much worse than the other, that it's irresponsible to not vote.

but aren't you voting for people who support that policy of defenseless women????
 
Rush Limbaugh??!!??

:laugh:

Oh, wait, you're serious?

Okay, then don't let the door hit you in the ass when you follow this dying pathological liar out the door. Then let the rest of the country know how all those new taxes and tolls and such are working out in your new confederacy. Oh yeah, better pray everyone's in a near coastal area, or major airline hub....jurisdictional legalities can be a bitch, I hear....especially when dealing with imports & exports.

What a bunch of buffoons, these right wing wonks. :palm:
 

To floridafan:
You really are the height of stupidity. Not one corporation traded on Wall Street was harmed financially.

To floridafan: The coronavirus fraud is only the latest lie that protects corporations:


The following quote on liberty has been attributed to Benjamin Franklin:


They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Quite a few people today appear to have opted to give up a great deal of their liberty for what they perceive as safety, yet few of them are starving or especially threatened. What they seem to want is absolute safety or something close to it, as so many people’s reaction to COVID has demonstrated.

The COVID pandemic was a big test of an approach called The Great Reset, and the reaction to the rules promulgated in response to the disease has led The Great Reset’s leftist boosters to feel that they can go ahead without too much objection. The Great Reset is no shadowy conspiracy theory, either; its basic outline is right out there in the open. See this from the World Economic Forum (WEF), September 2020 [emphasis mine]:


THE CONTEXT

The Covid-19 crisis, and the political, economic and social disruptions it has caused, is fundamentally changing the traditional context for decision-making. The inconsistencies, inadequacies and contradictions of multiple systems –from health and financial to energy and education – are more exposed than ever amidst a global context of concern for lives, livelihoods and the planet. Leaders find themselves at a historic crossroads, managing short-term pressures against medium- and long-term uncertainties.

Note also the emphasis on needing to replace those messy multiple systems with some sort of global approach [emphasis mine]:


THE OPPORTUNITY

As we enter a unique window of opportunity to shape the recovery, this initiative will offer insights to help inform all those determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons. Drawing from the vision and vast expertise of the leaders engaged across the Forum’s communities, the Great Reset initiative has a set of dimensions to build a new social contract that honours the dignity of every human being.

Beware the elites and their “vast expertise.” They never, never let a crisis go to waste:



COVID-19 lockdowns may be gradually easing, but anxiety about the world’s social and economic prospects is only intensifying. There is good reason to worry: a sharp economic downturn has already begun, and we could be facing the worst depression since the 1930s. But, while this outcome is likely, it is not unavoidable.

But the reaction to COVID from the world community has been a major cause of that downturn, and now even if COVID wanes (or as a vaccine is distributed), the left is poised to take advantage of the economic downturn (or fear of a downturn) that they helped create.

This next part is an important summary of the goal:



To achieve a better outcome, the world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed. In short, we need a “Great Reset” of capitalism.

If you had any lingering doubts about the leftist background to this, please leave those doubts behind.

More [emphasis mine]:

…[O]ne silver lining of the pandemic is that it has shown how quickly we can make radical changes to our lifestyles. Almost instantly, the crisis forced businesses and individuals to abandon practices long claimed to be essential, from frequent air travel to working in an office.

Likewise, populations have overwhelmingly shown a willingness to make sacrifices…And many companies have stepped up…

Clearly, the will to build a better society does exist. We must use it to secure the Great Reset that we so badly need. That will require stronger and more effective governments, though this does not imply an ideological push for bigger ones. And it will demand private-sector engagement every step of the way.

We have already seen the corporations march in lockstep. Make no mistake about it. This is a top-down “reset,” and those on top will get the spoils.

Watch:



Trump must have been such a tremendous 4-year thorn in their sides. No wonder they hate him so much and would do virtually anything to be rid of him.

Incidentally, traitor John Kerry spotted the “The Great Reset” like like a vulture circling overhead waiting to feast on a corpse:

John Kerry Talks ‘Great Reset’: ‘We’re at the Dawn of Extremely Exciting Time’
by John Binder
19 Nov 2020

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-were-at-the-dawn-of-extremely-exciting-time/

Stealing an election must be exciting for the crooks, especially if they get away with it.

NOTE: You can bet that Kerry-Biden will “RESET” Obama’s Iranian Nuclear deal, too:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...Take-On-Margaret-Sanger&p=4009581#post4009581


“The Great Reset” became a popular Google search after Justin Trudeau recently started talking about it and other leaders started using some of its terms, as well. There have been warnings in the past, but they didn’t get much traction. For example, see this from Justin Haskins writing at Fox Business last July:



A radical movement called the Great Reset embraced by some Democrats poses a grave threat to liberty and free markets in the United States and around the world. While former Vice President Joe Biden hasn’t endorsed the movement, his ties to it are growing as he changes his long-held policy views to appease the far-left.

While it hasn’t gained widespread attention, the Great Reset is perhaps the biggest danger to capitalism and individual rights since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

What is the Great Reset? Simply put, it’s a growing movement backed by many of the world’s most powerful business leaders, government officials and left-wing activists that aims to “push the reset button” on the global economy. It would destroy the current capitalist system and replace it with progressive and modern socialist systems, with a special emphasis placed on eco-socialist policies like those contained in the Green New Deal.

The left is nothing if not coordinated, ruthless, and relentless. The right is full of rank amateurs by comparison.

And whether Joe himself is fully onboard, or whether it’s just his handlers, it really doesn’t matter. The effect will be the same.


COVID-19 And The Great Reset: Global Effort “to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies”
Posted by New Neo
Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 7:30pm


https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/...p-all-aspects-of-our-societies-and-economies/
 
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once enough Americans realize the Parasite Class is so deeply entrenched in the halls of power there is not a chance of repealing the XVI Amendment:

Rush Limbaugh: Conservative States Are 'Trending Toward Secession'
By Jeffrey Rodack
Thursday, 10 December 2020 09:35 AM

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ru...conservatives-new-york/2020/12/10/id/1000877/

Only nine states are governed by, and elected by, the Parasite Class; nevertheless, secession will create sovereign nations. Maybe only two:

1. The United States of Big Government.

2. The United States of Limited Government.

The new nations are not contiguous; so there might be a lot more than two. The three parasite states on the West Coast might opt to go it alone, while the contiguous parasite states on the East Coast would become one sovereign nation. Those parasite states in the middle like Illinois would have the choice of joining with other states or becoming sovereign nations.

There is one thing that states separating from the parasites states must prepare for. They must guard against all of those parasites pouring thru open borders from those welfare states claiming “We’s all Americans.” Once illegal aliens get into limited government states demanding citizenship —— they will infiltrate government in those limited government states in exactly the same way they did in the U.S.A. —— INCREMENTALLY. Demanding a tax on income will be their first priority because no parasite government can survive on voluntarily contributions as organized religions did before they became the government.

Parenthetically, who will the priests in government tax to pay for their Garden of Eden? More importantly, who will do the work in states populated and governed by parasites only?

Now let us assume that human nature will take its course and individual nations go to war against one another. Such a war would pit parasites states against limited government states. It would be the first war fought not fought over territory or organized religions priesthoods, but a war fought by two opposing personality types.

Incidentally, parasites states will not defend this continent against foreign enemies like China, Russia, and the Muslim world. No change there. Democrats already do that.

Happily, secession will shoot Abe Lincoln’s reason for the Civil War in the ass:


The South did not commit treason, nor did Lincoln when he gave the country a war between the states rather than allow Confederate States to exercise their constitutional Right to secede.

Lincoln is the last person anybody should invoke trying to justify the Civil War with the slavery argument. Everything Lincoln did and said set this country on the road to federal government control.

Instead of civil war, Lincoln could have, and should have, worked within the Constitution if he felt so strongly about preserving the Union. Naturally, the Civil War would have been unnecessary had the South surrendered their Rights instead of defending them.

The fact is that Lincoln saw the Constitution impeding his will.

Americans celebrate Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, but H.L. Mencken correctly evaluated the speech, "It is poetry not logic; beauty, not sense." Lincoln said that the soldiers sacrificed their lives "to the cause of self-determination -- government of the people, by the people, for the people should not perish from the earth."

Mencken says: "It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of people to govern themselves."

The Real Lincoln
Walter E. Williams | Mar 27, 2002

http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2002/03/27/the_real_lincoln

Mencken specifically objected to this:

THAT FROM THESE HONORED DEAD WE TAKE INCREASED DEVOTION TO THAT CAUSE FOR WHICH THEY GAVE THE LAST FULL MEASURE OF DEVOTION~THAT WE HERE HIGHLY RESOLVE THAT THESE DEAD SHALL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN~THAT THIS NATION UNDER GOD SHALL HAVE A NEW BIRTH OF FREEDOM~AND THAT GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE SHALL NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH

NOTE: Lincoln stole a constitutional Right from the South in addition to providing a blueprint for the theft of stealing states’ Rights from every state.

China Joe Biden’s attempted theft proves that:

Nobody can make the case that America today is governed by, of, and for the people. Nobody can convince me that AMERICANS demanded open-borders, sanctuary cities, loss of their sovereignty, and everything else the federal government imposes on them. Everything the federal government does came from Lincoln’s blueprint. The result has been government by, of, and for the UNIC (United Nations/International Community) and illegal aliens.

Lincoln used his gift of gab to impose his personal belief on the country; i.e., holding the Union together. Almost every president after Lincoln behaved as though their personal moral code overrides the Constitution. The recent spiritual leader, Obama, took Lincoln sacrificing the Constitution for his personal moral certainty far beyond what all of the other dirty little moralists did to the country.

Bottom line: Lincoln can be blamed for the evils of today’s big government because he took the first step towards totalitarian government. Put it in perspective by examining all the harm that flowed from holding the Union together.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...n-Of-The-Party-Of-Liars&p=2797672#post2797672

Finally, I have a dream —— Living in a freedom-loving nation without parasites would be a dream come true.


Secession would not rid any State of it's parasites. It would also be logistically impossible, as you noted. There is no contiguous territory here.
You do at least correctly describe that States DO have the right to secede, and correctly describe Lincoln's contribution to the so-called 'civil war' (which wasn't actually a civil war...it was a war between two nations).

Do not write off any State. There are conservatives in every State and in the SOTC. They are trying to restore or preserve a republican form of government. The Democrats want to destroy the republic and replace it with fascism by oligarchy.
There are also Democrats in every State. In some States, like Washington, they have managed to successfully hijack our election system. Just because Washington is 'blue', doesn't mean that is the actual will of most of the people here.

If the attempted coup by the Democrats is successful, and they attempt to do what they say they are going to do, then there is no United States to secede from. The United States will have fallen. Only the people have the power to restore a republic, and if we lose the republic, it will be hell to get it back again.
 
The diseased Rush Limbaugh should spend his last few days contemplating the purity of his soul and spending quality time with family - not wallowing in the swamps of rightwing fascist and neo-Confederate fantasies.

Inversion fallacy. Fascism is a form of socialism. It is what the Democrats want.
 
Secession would not rid any State of it's parasites.

To Into the Night:
A new nation ratifies their own constitution.

Repealing the parasite parts of the U.S. Constitution is out of the question because the Parasite Class now controls the constitutional machinery for repeal, while a new nation can adopt the best parts of the U.S. Constitution and scrap the garbage Socialists have been dumping on the country with the XVI & XVII Amendments. Happily, repeal is unnecessary. Simply do not include the worst parts in a new nation’s constitution.

Basically, this country’s Founders ratified a constitution that held parasites at bay for the first time in history. As brilliant as the Founders were parasite priests had thousands of years of experience ——and lots of patience that came to fruition in 1913.

A new nation’s constitution can focus on destroying every bridge parasites built since the early 1790s.

In 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 for relief of French refugees who fled from insurrection in San Domingo to Baltimore and Philadelphia, James Madison stood on the floor of the House to object saying, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." James Madison, 4 Annals of congress 179 (1794)

Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. James Madison

With respect to the two words ‘general welfare,’ I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators. James Madison

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...rump-Bombs-Pearl-Harbor&p=3561972#post3561972

NOTE: A new nation does not have to join the United Nations. Switzerland did not join until 2003. People in a new nation will never join so long as they never forget what parasites did to the U.S.A.



Incidentally, creating autonomous nations like India’s partition remind me of the newsreels I saw as kid. In our case, I can see parasites going to welfare nations en masse while productive Americans head to limited government nations without the violence India lived with during its partition.

Naturally, some parasites will remain where they are outcasts, but they will be powerless for at least a hundred years —— indefinitely when a free people use the tools they have to stop them. Hell, parasite holdovers might even learn to live without tax dollars.
 

To Into the Night:
A new nation ratifies their own constitution.

Repealing the parasite parts of the U.S. Constitution is out of the question because the Parasite Class now controls the constitutional machinery for repeal, while a new nation can adopt the best parts of the U.S. Constitution and scrap the garbage Socialists have been dumping on the country with the XVI & XVII Amendments. Happily, repeal is unnecessary. Simply do not include the worst parts in a new nation’s constitution.

Basically, this country’s Founders ratified a constitution that held parasites at bay for the first time in history. As brilliant as the Founders were parasite priests had thousands of years of experience ——and lots of patience that came to fruition in 1913.

A new nation’s constitution can focus on destroying every bridge parasites built since the early 1790s.

In 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 for relief of French refugees who fled from insurrection in San Domingo to Baltimore and Philadelphia, James Madison stood on the floor of the House to object saying, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." James Madison, 4 Annals of congress 179 (1794)

Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. James Madison

With respect to the two words ‘general welfare,’ I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators. James Madison

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...rump-Bombs-Pearl-Harbor&p=3561972#post3561972

NOTE: A new nation does not have to join the United Nations. Switzerland did not join until 2003. People in a new nation will never join so long as they never forget what parasites did to the U.S.A.



Incidentally, creating autonomous nations like India’s partition remind me of the newsreels I saw as kid. In our case, I can see parasites going to welfare nations en masse while productive Americans head to limited government nations without the violence India lived with during its partition.

Naturally, some parasites will remain where they are outcasts, but they will be powerless for at least a hundred years —— indefinitely when a free people use the tools they have to stop them. Hell, parasite holdovers might even learn to live without tax dollars.

Assuming that secession took place and a new republic formed under it's own constitution, what would that constitution be?

I'm not asking for a full constitution. I am asking the general structure of government would be declared and defined, and how that constitution would undergo amendments. Just your idea. I realize there is no actual constitution for such a nation yet.
Would the State constitutions still be in force, or would each State joining this union have to submit new constitutions? If so, what would be the requirements in such constitutions? What authorities and powers would each State give to the new national government?
 
Assuming that secession took place and a new republic formed under it's own constitution, what would that constitution be?

To Into the Night: I think this pretty much covers it. “. . . adopt the best parts of the U.S. Constitution . . .”.

What authorities and powers would each State give to the new national government?

To Into the Night: A new nation can look to the blueprint the colonies provided. It should be easy because a violent revolution is not necessary.

Every one of our states has a constitution of their own.


https://www.usconstitution.net/stateconst.html

A new nation made up of more than one state can also strengthen their constitutions by including protections against a parasite class forming. Basically, the goal is for states to write constitutions that provide parasite personalities with the incentive to voluntarily emigrate to one of the big government nations where they can get all the free stuff their hearts desire.



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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WmCDoJH3SG0/maxresdefault.jpg


NOTE: If it was up to me my constitutions would require every person to be third generation on both sides of their ancestors before they can work for the government in any capacity.
 
COLOR=#ff0000]To Into the Night:[/COLOR] I think this pretty much covers it. “. . . adopt the best parts of the U.S. Constitution . . .”.
Okay. What do you consider the 'best parts of the U.S. Constitution'?
To Into the Night: A new nation can look to the blueprint the colonies provided. It should be easy because a violent revolution is not necessary.
There was a lot of anger, threats of delegates walking out, etc. when the colonies came together to for the first Confederacy, and later replaced it with the Constitution. You say the 'best parts of the Constitution'. Are you referring to the Confederacy document the colonists formed, or the current Constitution (before any amendments)? Is there any amendment that you would like see repealed in the current Constitution?
Every one of our states has a constitution of their own.[/B]
True. Many of these constitutions describe State welfare, State education, State parks and wilderness areas, State roads and bridges, etc. Are any of these 'parasites'?
A new nation made up of more than one state can also strengthen their constitutions by including protections against a parasite class forming.

That can be done now. No secession is necessary.
Basically, the goal is for states to write constitutions that provide parasite personalities with the incentive to voluntarily emigrate to one of the big government nations where they can get all the free stuff their hearts desire.
Nothin's free.
If it was up to me my constitutions would require every person to be third generation on both sides of their ancestors before they can work for the government in any capacity.
So you would have no one working in government in this new nation until 80 years have passed???



What do you consider a 'parasite class'?

I'm beginning to think you haven't thought this through. I understand that you want to vent your spleen here, but when it comes to the actual logistics of implementing what you are arguing or any clear goals, there seems to be a lot lacking.
 
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To floridafan: The coronavirus fraud is only the latest lie that protects corporations:


The following quote on liberty has been attributed to Benjamin Franklin:


They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Quite a few people today appear to have opted to give up a great deal of their liberty for what they perceive as safety, yet few of them are starving or especially threatened. What they seem to want is absolute safety or something close to it, as so many people’s reaction to COVID has demonstrated.

The COVID pandemic was a big test of an approach called The Great Reset, and the reaction to the rules promulgated in response to the disease has led The Great Reset’s leftist boosters to feel that they can go ahead without too much objection. The Great Reset is no shadowy conspiracy theory, either; its basic outline is right out there in the open. See this from the World Economic Forum (WEF), September 2020 [emphasis mine]:


THE CONTEXT

The Covid-19 crisis, and the political, economic and social disruptions it has caused, is fundamentally changing the traditional context for decision-making. The inconsistencies, inadequacies and contradictions of multiple systems –from health and financial to energy and education – are more exposed than ever amidst a global context of concern for lives, livelihoods and the planet. Leaders find themselves at a historic crossroads, managing short-term pressures against medium- and long-term uncertainties.

Note also the emphasis on needing to replace those messy multiple systems with some sort of global approach [emphasis mine]:


THE OPPORTUNITY

As we enter a unique window of opportunity to shape the recovery, this initiative will offer insights to help inform all those determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons. Drawing from the vision and vast expertise of the leaders engaged across the Forum’s communities, the Great Reset initiative has a set of dimensions to build a new social contract that honours the dignity of every human being.

Beware the elites and their “vast expertise.” They never, never let a crisis go to waste:



COVID-19 lockdowns may be gradually easing, but anxiety about the world’s social and economic prospects is only intensifying. There is good reason to worry: a sharp economic downturn has already begun, and we could be facing the worst depression since the 1930s. But, while this outcome is likely, it is not unavoidable.

But the reaction to COVID from the world community has been a major cause of that downturn, and now even if COVID wanes (or as a vaccine is distributed), the left is poised to take advantage of the economic downturn (or fear of a downturn) that they helped create.

This next part is an important summary of the goal:



To achieve a better outcome, the world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed. In short, we need a “Great Reset” of capitalism.

If you had any lingering doubts about the leftist background to this, please leave those doubts behind.

More [emphasis mine]:

…[O]ne silver lining of the pandemic is that it has shown how quickly we can make radical changes to our lifestyles. Almost instantly, the crisis forced businesses and individuals to abandon practices long claimed to be essential, from frequent air travel to working in an office.

Likewise, populations have overwhelmingly shown a willingness to make sacrifices…And many companies have stepped up…

Clearly, the will to build a better society does exist. We must use it to secure the Great Reset that we so badly need. That will require stronger and more effective governments, though this does not imply an ideological push for bigger ones. And it will demand private-sector engagement every step of the way.

We have already seen the corporations march in lockstep. Make no mistake about it. This is a top-down “reset,” and those on top will get the spoils.

Watch:



Trump must have been such a tremendous 4-year thorn in their sides. No wonder they hate him so much and would do virtually anything to be rid of him.

Incidentally, traitor John Kerry spotted the “The Great Reset” like like a vulture circling overhead waiting to feast on a corpse:

John Kerry Talks ‘Great Reset’: ‘We’re at the Dawn of Extremely Exciting Time’
by John Binder
19 Nov 2020

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-were-at-the-dawn-of-extremely-exciting-time/

Stealing an election must be exciting for the crooks, especially if they get away with it.

NOTE: You can bet that Kerry-Biden will “RESET” Obama’s Iranian Nuclear deal, too:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...Take-On-Margaret-Sanger&p=4009581#post4009581


“The Great Reset” became a popular Google search after Justin Trudeau recently started talking about it and other leaders started using some of its terms, as well. There have been warnings in the past, but they didn’t get much traction. For example, see this from Justin Haskins writing at Fox Business last July:



A radical movement called the Great Reset embraced by some Democrats poses a grave threat to liberty and free markets in the United States and around the world. While former Vice President Joe Biden hasn’t endorsed the movement, his ties to it are growing as he changes his long-held policy views to appease the far-left.

While it hasn’t gained widespread attention, the Great Reset is perhaps the biggest danger to capitalism and individual rights since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

What is the Great Reset? Simply put, it’s a growing movement backed by many of the world’s most powerful business leaders, government officials and left-wing activists that aims to “push the reset button” on the global economy. It would destroy the current capitalist system and replace it with progressive and modern socialist systems, with a special emphasis placed on eco-socialist policies like those contained in the Green New Deal.

The left is nothing if not coordinated, ruthless, and relentless. The right is full of rank amateurs by comparison.

And whether Joe himself is fully onboard, or whether it’s just his handlers, it really doesn’t matter. The effect will be the same.


COVID-19 And The Great Reset: Global Effort “to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies”
Posted by New Neo
Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 7:30pm


https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/...p-all-aspects-of-our-societies-and-economies/

Many corporations were permanently put out of business by Covid19 panic and lockdowns implemented by the Democrats. How are they protected??

Places like restaurants, bars, movie theaters, gymnasiums, some retail stores, etc. Gone due to covid19 panic induced by the Democrats and the lockdowns implemented by the Democrats.
 
Okay. What do you consider the 'best parts of the U.S. Constitution'?

Are you referring to the Confederacy document the colonists formed, or the current Constitution (before any amendments)? Is there any amendment that you would like see repealed in the current Constitution?

Are any of these 'parasites'?

So you would have no one working in government in this new nation until 80 years have passed???




What do you consider a 'parasite class'?

Many corporations were permanently put out of business by Covid19 panic and lockdowns implemented by the Democrats. How are they protected??

To Into the Night: I was wondering how long it would take for you to ask clever questions. I am not going to make your case for you. Research my messages. All the answers you want are there.
 
Humorous, got over seventy posts on Trump States seceding from the country as based upon a Rush Limbaugh broadcast, whew, well, to continue the fantasy, I can tell you there are a whole lot of Blue States that wouldn't mind it a bit, in fact, might even endorse the idea.

Not only do a number of Blue States subsidize some of the Red States, meaning it would cost them less, but there is little that Red States offer that benefit the Blue States, in other words, they wouldn't miss them
 
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