Senators push Obama for biometric national ID card

apple0154 said:
What power is that giving the government? If the government wants info on someone they have to give it.

For what reason or reasons are you against it?
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the difference is that in America, the people are the sovereign power, not the government. WE THE PEOPLE are in charge, even though government continues to usurp that from us. that may be different in canada, don't know for sure, but here in america, government is supposed to be limited and restricted, not all knowing and all powerful. it's well known and documented historical fact that government will abuse and expand that power and all biometric info is too easily exploited.
 
apple0154 said:
It would be no different if stopped for a traffic violation. If one does not have a driver's license with them and no proper ID they have to go the Police Station and wait until they are identified.

If one loses their bank card they have to go to the bank and identify themselves.

I don't see any difference.
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Since when does not having a bank card or a drivers license suggest that you don't exist??

I guess you've never heard of Social Security accidently killing someone.
You want to put to much power into just a few hands.
 
apple0154 said:
Very few people have no SS number or bank card or driver's license. What is the big deal about having to obtain an ID card as long as the government didn't charge a lot for it. Charge a nominal amount so people don't deliberately throw it away.

Perhaps financial institutions could incorporate their services with the card. For example, an American Express magnetic strip along with the magnetic strip showing your ID. The ID info would require a password so the bank/CC company could not read it.
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By the way, what's to stop it from being copied, as Driver's license's are now?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Since when does not having a bank card or a drivers license suggest that you don't exist??
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Obvious if a person is missing their ID card they still exist. It's a matter of determining who they are which is the same thing as if one loses their bank card.

I guess you've never heard of Social Security accidently killing someone.
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It, no doubt, was straightened out.

You want to put to much power into just a few hands.
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I ask again, "What power?"
 
apple0154 said:
Obvious if a person is missing their ID card they still exist. It's a matter of determining who they are which is the same thing as if one loses their bank card.



It, no doubt, was straightened out.



I ask again, "What power?"
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When you're through burying your head in the sand, could I borrow the hole you've created??
I've always wanted to see what the world view is, from that position.
I'll give it right back; because it's not really something I want to live my life doing.
 
apple0154 said:
It could have a computer chip like the new CC have.

There are ways to tell if money is counterfeit. They should be able to tell if an ID card is counterfeit.
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And of course, no one has ever been able to clone or counterfeit a computer chip.
What was I considering??
 
apple0154 said:
Obvious if a person is missing their ID card they still exist. It's a matter of determining who they are which is the same thing as if one loses their bank card.

I ask again, "What power?"
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if you're asking what power, then the government obviously doesn't have a need to know who I am, correct?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
if you're asking what power, then the government obviously doesn't have a need to know who I am, correct?
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Of course they need to know. From paying taxes to a military draft to the census the government needs to know.

My question is what does it matter? What harm do you imagine?
 
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