Serious politics, for serious posters.

It seems this place is full of trolls lately, lets have this spot for politics minus the riffraff. Discuss any political issue. I was starting on Grand Staircase Escalante in my last attempt before the mods got weird, and closed it. So I'll start with that. I left the original poll out, because I think it might have spurred it being closed.

Does anyone believe for a second, that Trump knew the what, and where of Grand Staircase Escalante? I think some lobbyists for mineral exploration told him what to think, and most of the details.

Trump couldn't find his own Dick without help, and it's always a sure bet, someone can put anything is his empty head.
 
Reduction of federal gubmint overreach. Bravo!
Same as with reversal of EPA's illegal WOTUS.
If Trump didn't have such a personality disorder I'd back him.

Ps: there's a section for serious politics/ posters. It's called Above plain politics.

The idea that above plain politics is for serious politics is absurd
 
At any rate, back to national parks and monuments. We Americans love our public lands and most of us want to preserve them. If the Dump Administration continues on its merry way allowing logging, mining, drilling, and other exploitation the backlash is going to be swift.

That one thing turned my Mom sour towards Trump. She fell in love with Utah out west. Mom's a lot more saintly than me, so her getting peeved, and speaking out a little, is probably equivalent to me in a rant, saying Trump can fornicate with a billows.
 
That one thing turned my Mom sour towards Trump. She fell in love with Utah out west. Mom's a lot more saintly than me, so her getting peeved, and speaking out a little, is probably equivalent to me in a rant, saying Trump can fornicate with a billows.

You mean she has managed to overlook the thousand *other* things he has done and said?
 
You mean she has managed to overlook the thousand *other* things he has done and said?

No, but that was the first thing that caught her attention that way. She is too busy to pay attention to politics. She showed huge disgust when Republicans went after Delta like they did, and she is getting sick of all this gun bullshit.
 
Trump is taking the wilderness that is being protected for the people and giving it to its rightful owners, mining companies. Teddy Roosevelt started protecting land from corporate destruction. What did he know compared to Trump? Lets pump oil through the Alaskan wilderness. It is a unit of profit. Lets bulldoze monuments and open land. It only has value if it is making profit for someone.
 
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