Sesame Workshop to Obama: Take Big Bird ad down

Darla said:
Two different people Damo.





Nice try attempting to confuse the issue though.

Fact: Mitt Romeny was told to cease and desist from exploiting the death of a Navy Seal by that young man's mother. Further, said Navy Seal's friend told an extremely unflattering to Romney recounting of this "meeting":
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Oh, cool. I didn't realize he had more than one story of Navy SEALs... I thought that they were one and the same. I'm cool with that, and like Romney would stop recounting the story if his mom requested it. I'd still prefer my candidate have a heavier story than the false demise of Big Bird and a lie about "unregulated Wall Street"...

It's even funnier that it isn't resonating with people. I think they want a bit more from the President of the USA than childish antics and Big Bird jokes.
 
Damocles said:
He brought up more than one example, but that is all they were. Examples. That the focus of Obama is a silly attempt to dismiss a much larger idea with images of Big Bird (who absolutely will do fine without our tax dollars) is a sign, IMO, of desperation. I think it may be due to the new direction of polls.



http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS...personal-story/story?id=17434211#.UHXzQPL-X0T
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So what were the other examples? I must have missed them. Big Bird was pretty much it.

And yeah,you've got the wrong dude. The one you mentioned wasn't a SEAL.
 
i remember a while ago nigel was saying that people shouldn't really care if PBS is funded because the funding is so small.

now he cares that funding will be cut.

LOL
 
Darla said:
Two different people Damo.





Nice try attempting to confuse the issue though.

Fact: Mitt Romeny was told to cease and desist from exploiting the death of a Navy Seal by that young man's mother. Further, said Navy Seal's friend told an extremely unflattering to Romney recounting of this "meeting":
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true, only obama can use a person's death for political purposes
 
What most people dont know is that PBS dosent own Seseme street. Childrens telivison workshop does. PBS pays CTW to beable to broadcast the show.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
So what were the other examples? I must have missed them. Big Bird was pretty much it.

And yeah,you've got the wrong dude. The one you mentioned wasn't a SEAL.
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Obamacare was the first (which he would allow states to replace), then PBS. Both were simply examples of things he would cut based on the question, "Is it worth it to borrow money from China to pay for this?"
 
cannabis said:
i remember a while ago nigel was saying that people shouldn't really care if PBS is funded because the funding is so small.

now he cares that funding will be cut.

LOL
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Goddamn you're dense. The point is that Romney needs to come up with $8T in new revenue and spending cuts and all he has come up with definitively is the pittance that CPB gets. Its a joke.
 
Damocles said:
Obamacare was the first (which he would allow states to replace), then PBS. Both were simply examples of things he would cut based on the question, "Is it worth it to borrow money from China to pay for this?"
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Repealing the ACA increases the deficit. That's on the wrong side of the ledger. And he was challenged numerous times on how he would pay for his tax cuts and increased military spending (again, that's $8T) and all he had was PBS. Its a joke.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Goddamn you're dense. The point is that Romney needs to come up with $8T in new revenue and spending cuts and all he has come up with definitively is the pittance that CPB gets. Its a joke.
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He doesn't need to come up with 8 Trillion... That's seriously bad math. He needs to get jobs for a few million to cover what the cutting loopholes won't. Basically, if we take the 15 Million that are now on food stamps since Obama took office and actually got them decent jobs and they paid some taxes we could cover the difference. (It won't take all 15, but it would be awesome if we did that). The problem we have here is the assumption that the only way to increase revenue is through tax rate increases. Thankfully Romney was able to explain it during the debate, even if some people deliberately "forget" the "third way" that he mentioned.

This also seems to promptly forget that this was just one of the two examples. He spoke of things "like" these two things that he'd cut, then gave the two examples. Remember they did have some time limits. Which Romney followed a bit better than Obama (Obama had about 4 minutes more talking time than Romney... couldn't get the guy to shut up even though he wasn't talking about anything).

The only way we get out of this is by growing the economy and making some net receivers into net payers. Basically making people's lives actually better will get us there, when tax rate increases won't. Especially when they'll hit the small businesses that pay at the individual rate who hire nearly 1/4 of all people who are employed.

This plan is a danged sight better than Obama's which predicted massive deficits for 20 years...
 
Hilarious. Party like its 2001 Damo. This is the same shit we heard back then for the Bush tax cuts. We all know how that turned out. You seem to think that the take away is that we didn't cut taxes enough and that if we only cut revenues by an additional $5T then we would have seen increased revenues enough to balance the budget. Its laughable.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Hilarious. Party like its 2001 Damo. This is the same shit we heard back then for the Bush tax cuts. We all know how that turned out. You seem to think that the take away is that we didn't cut taxes enough and that if we only cut revenues by an additional $5T then we would have seen increased revenues enough to balance the budget. Its laughable.
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The takeaway is that in order to fix this without massive spending cuts to entitlements that nobody will accept we'll need growth. Even if we simply took every dime the "1%" had we'd only pay our bills for a few months. This isn't going to be solved through tax rate increases, it will only be solved through real economic growth. Just saying "laughable" isn't an argument, it's just blather.
 
bravo said:
I can live without Big Bird...........I can't live without oil and the thousands of things its brings to us.....
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So then you reject damo's argument that PBS can survive without government funds?

The idea that we need the subsidies to obtain oil is absurd.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Repealing the ACA increases the deficit. That's on the wrong side of the ledger. And he was challenged numerous times on how he would pay for his tax cuts and increased military spending (again, that's $8T) and all he had was PBS. Its a joke.
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Just think, he could have just relied on "Hope and Change"!! :palm:
 
This kinda feels like the other side of the "you didn't build that" kick the republicans were on for so long. Equally dumb, equally missing of the point, and twice as entertaining to watch.
 
Damocles said:
The takeaway is that in order to fix this without massive spending cuts to entitlements that nobody will accept we'll need growth. Even if we simply took every dime the "1%" had we'd only pay our bills for a few months. This isn't going to be solved through tax rate increases, it will only be solved through real economic growth. Just saying "laughable" isn't an argument, it's just blather.
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What's "this" that you are referring to? The deficit? Debt? The economy?

Romney is selling the same bullshit that Bush and the Republicans were selling in 2001. I don't disagree that tax cuts can lead to economic growth. The trouble is that Romney isn't selling his tax cut plan as a means to grow the economy but also as a means to close the deficit and balance the budget. That's just wrong, was tried before, and doesn't work. It's the same bill of goods. Tax cuts are a magical elixir that can do everything and anything. We all know how the 2000s worked out.
 
Damocles said:
Obamacare was the first (which he would allow states to replace), then PBS. Both were simply examples of things he would cut based on the question, "Is it worth it to borrow money from China to pay for this?"
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The states, right now, can replace it, if their program is as good or better than the Affordable Care Act.
 
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