Sexuality is not black or white. . .

Ghost of Watermark said:
i sorta disagree with the OP. It seems a little bit too drum-circle-y.

this isn't something that can really be quantified, or examined statistically. Is it possible for some people to be on a spectrum? Sure. But to suggest that the vast majority of people are somewhere in the middle of a sexuality spectrum with only a few people on the ends of "true gay" and "true straight" is pure speculation and not back up by any evidence.
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Most people would be very strongly towards one end of the spectrum or the other, I agree. But there are people in the middle, and people that lean just slightly.
 
1966stang said:
Most people would be very strongly towards one end of the spectrum or the other, I agree. But there are people in the middle, and people that lean just slightly.
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I am not denying that there can be some in the middle. I am rejecting that "most people are somewhere in the middle" and not at the poles. There is zero evidence for this assertion.
 
Ghost of Watermark said:
i sorta disagree with the OP. It seems a little bit too drum-circle-y.

this isn't something that can really be quantified, or examined statistically. Is it possible for some people to be on a spectrum? Sure. But to suggest that the vast majority of people are somewhere in the middle of a sexuality spectrum with only a few people on the ends of "true gay" and "true straight" is pure speculation and not backed up by any evidence.
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Not only that but no where in the OP did he mention sheep.
 
Ghost of Watermark said:
I am not denying that there can be some in the middle. I am rejecting that "most people are somewhere in the middle" and not at the poles. There is zero evidence for this assertion.
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if you put it like that, I would agree. I know people with what I think is a very slight same sex attraction....but that hardly puts them in the middle.
 
Jarod said:
Like almost all things in our world. . . .

Sexuality is not black or white. One is generally not gay or straight. Often people resist this idea because physical attraction to the same sex is such a taboo, and it my contention that many people automatically repress any such feelings.

Sexual identification is more like most everything, on a scale. People generally fit on a spectrum of sexual attraction. There are some who are truly on one side of the scale... purely and totally heterosexual, while there are few on the other side truly and totally homosexual. Most fall somewhere in between. Most people will not admit to anything but being on an extreme, even to themselves.
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is it like dieting, where you have to step on the scale every morning to check what the status is?.....
 
Ghost of Watermark said:
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grey......
 
Auster said:
Behold the contradiction that is your logic.
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I should have said curiosity rather than interest. That being said... desire is one thing... curiosity and opportunity are different.

Someone who is very heterosexual, will not be with the same sex if stranded on an island only populated by the same sex, however, someone who is much more hetro than homo would be with the same sex in such a situation only due to what is available.
 
1) it is fixed at birth
2) circumstance can cause it to be expressed differently (read as: change it.)
 
Auster said:
1) it is fixed at birth
2) circumstance can cause it to be expressed differently (read as: change it.)
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What you are attracted is fixed at birth. A person can chose to act differently based on the amount of natural desire.

A person who scored a 1 on a 1-10 scale of homosexuality will never express sexuality in a same sex way, but a person who scores a 3 might.

Can you understand the difference between being born with certain desire, and how a person choses to express that during his life?
 
This 10 point scale is just a continuation of a 2-point scale (or three). If you find fallacy in those than this is just as flawed.


But, it seems you are trying to say that genetics determines a larger amount of 'gender identity' than your raise.
 
The Kinsey scale, also called the Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale was first published in Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) by Alfred Kinsey, Wardell Pomeroy, and Clyde Martin and also featured in Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953).[74] The scale was developed to combat the assumption at the time that people are either heterosexual or homosexual and that these two types represent antitheses in the sexual world.[75] Recognizing that a large portion of population is not completely heterosexual or homosexual and people can experience both heterosexual and homosexual behavior and psychic responses, Kinsey et al., stated:


Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats. Not all things are black nor all things white... The living world is a continuum in each and every one of its aspects. The sooner we learn this concerning human sexual behavior, the sooner we shall reach a sound understanding of the realities of sex.

—Kinsey et al. (1948) pp. 639.
 
Jarod said:
I should have said curiosity rather than interest. That being said... desire is one thing... curiosity and opportunity are different.

Someone who is very heterosexual, will not be with the same sex if stranded on an island only populated by the same sex, however, someone who is much more hetro than homo would be with the same sex in such a situation only due to what is available.
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I'm pretty sure that any one stranded on an island populated only by the same sex will unavoidably be with the same sex.....unless they start swimming away......
 
Auster said:
This 10 point scale is just a continuation of a 2-point scale (or three). If you find fallacy in those than this is just as flawed.


But, it seems you are trying to say that genetics determines a larger amount of 'gender identity' than your raise.
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I guess I would say that most people are, if being honest with themselves and others, are some level of bisexual, with a varying degree of preference for same or opposite sex attraction, and that those in the middle, can, if they chose, make choices that would identify them as one or the other.
 
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