Sexuality is not black or white. . .

The reality is, to put it bluntly, that there are two sexes. There are varying degrees of . . . 'kink', but there are either XX or XY at the end of the day. No amount of explaining or dividing changes this, and no amount of backtracking on biology helps your case. A woman with a penis is still walking around with billions of XX chromosome configurations in their body. Every cell excluding the gametes.

So which is it? Are Darwinites right about the theories of sexual reproduction and evolution, or are they just unproven frameworks you bring out when convenient?

As far pleasure, and the pursuit of it, we have only two barriers preventing us from becoming monsters and rapists, namely personal stake and social reinforcement.
 
Jarod said:
I guess I would say that most people are, if being honest with themselves and others, are some level of bisexual, with a varying degree of preference for same or opposite sex attraction, and that those in the middle, can, if they chose, make choices that would identify them as one or the other.
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I would disagree. I think most people are either 100% straight or 100% gay at birth. I think you may confuse attitude/comfort level with actually being gay or straight.
 
Auster said:
The reality is, to put it bluntly, that there are two sexes. There are varying degrees of . . . 'kink', but there are either XX or XY at the end of the day. No amount of explaining or dividing changes this, and no amount of backtracking on biology helps your case. A woman with a penis is still walking around with billions of XX chromosome configurations in their body. Every cell excluding the gametes.

So which is it? Are Darwinites right about the theories of sexual reproduction and evolution, or are they just unproven frameworks you bring out when convenient?

As far pleasure, and the pursuit of it, we have only two barriers preventing us from becoming monsters and rapists, namely personal stake and social reinforcement.
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It sounds like you are saying that the only thing that keeps you from getting pleasure out of homosexual contact is social pressure and personal stake?
 
Jarod said:
I guess I would say that most people are, if being honest with themselves and others, are some level of bisexual, with a varying degree of preference for same or opposite sex attraction, and that those in the middle, can, if they chose, make choices that would identify them as one or the other.
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zero evidence for this assertion. none.
 
Jarod said:
Like almost all things in our world. . . .

Sexuality is not black or white. One is generally not gay or straight. Often people resist this idea because physical attraction to the same sex is such a taboo, and it my contention that many people automatically repress any such feelings.

Sexual identification is more like most everything, on a scale. People generally fit on a spectrum of sexual attraction. There are some who are truly on one side of the scale... purely and totally heterosexual, while there are few on the other side truly and totally homosexual. Most fall somewhere in between. Most people will not admit to anything but being on an extreme, even to themselves.
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I am not too sure about this, though I've read this same claim - that most people fall somewhere in between pure hetero or pure gay on this sexuality scale. When I was in the peace movement a lot of the women would sleep with other women even though they mainly slept with men. One of the women there told about her lesbian affair over drinks once, and then my friend Sue nearly made me piss my pants imitating her for the rest of the trip (we were in DC). It was very "I'd rather have a sandwhich". It was hilarious. And one of my very close friends slept with a woman during that time, and they were both very hot so we would laugh about the reaction of the men if they found out. Anyway, she told me about it and said that she couldn't have an orgasm, and I said, well that's probably because YOU'RE NOT GAY.

Anyway, I think some people who sleep with the same sex aren't enjoying it and it's because, yep, they're straight.

Not that some straight women aren't sleeping with men and not enjoying it, but...I don't really want to get into Tom's sex life.
 
Superfreak said:
I would disagree. I think most people are either 100% straight or 100% gay at birth. I think you may confuse attitude/comfort level with actually being gay or straight.
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Well, I know many people who have children from relationships with the opposite sex, but currently are in same sex relationships. If they were 100% one way or the other, the men would not have been able to be aroused enough to get a woman pregnant.
 
As for me, I've never been tempted. And believe me I would have jumped at the slightest little twinge! But it never happened, I just never could get any interest up. It's always been the penis for me. Which would be fine, except for the fact that the really good ones are always attached to a man...and men, well, they get insulted when you ask them to please not talk before, during, or after...it's been my experience anyway.
 
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