The taxpayers don't owe them housing or anything else.
SF's homelessness residents are putting boulders on streets to stop sleeping there.
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The taxpayers don't owe them housing or anything else.
From what I have read, it has been pretty steady @ around 25% of the homeless are Vets..
The Video anonymoose posted is very good, not only highlighting the problem, but possible solutions w/ results... If you have not watched it, it is well worth the hour of your time...
IMHO, & I can't support this via stats, it would seem if there were fewer in some places like LA, SF, Portland, Seattle etc the problem would be more manageable but I don't see any cities or counties volunteering for "burden sharing", to relieve them, in fact it is likely the opposite-driving them out of town..
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He-he, nice reference to the Scott McKenzie song. And be sure to put flowers on those boulders! It's a damn shame what the Dim Dems have done to that city.
When I was in the south I can't recall ever seeing any..
Some very good points, thanks, but I am not sure what you mean in the "bolden"?
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
When I was in the south I can't recall ever seeing any..
Some very good points, thanks, but I am not sure what you mean in the "bolden"?
I think he means that the cost of living is a factor for the homeless who do not have addiction or mental illness issues. IOW, some ppl can't afford to have a home so they live in a tent.
cawacko
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When I was in the south I can't recall ever seeing any..
Some very good points, thanks, but I am not sure what you mean in the "bolden"?
Sorry, that wasn't very clear. There's a portion of the homeless who could be called down on their luck. So not mentally ill or drug addicted but maybe lost their job or something like that. This of course can happen in any area of the country, but it is exacerbated here by the high cost of housing which we don't address.
Yes, that is a huge problem in the bay area, especially in the city..
Paying up to $3,000 a month to live in a dump isn't unheard of there.......
My daughter has a steal @ $1,800 a month & can park her car for free, @ least @ home-@ work it is $400 a month in a lot..
Many sleep in their cars or now many RV's.....
If they have their car windows covered they won't get ticketed. If a person that lives on or near that street does it, they will be given a hefty tix for not having &/or displaying their authorization to park on that block......
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
That's insane, the price of housing there. I had a cyber friend 20+ yrs ago who was a teacher in the SF city school district. She couldn't afford to live there in the city, so her daily commute was two hours -- one way. She said the same thing about some ppl sleeping in their cars just to be closer to work. Obviously nothing has changed in the past 20-something years.
I grew up in metro Boston, MA and it was a big problem there back in the day. Housing prices were ridiculous and the house that my parents bought for $30k when I was five was sold for eleven times that when they sold it 18 years later. I worked across from the Common, on the 12th floor, for three years while still in college and could see encampments in the the ancient growths of large plantings along the edges of the gardens. Those are two of the many reasons why I left as soon as I could.
cawacko
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In 2008 I lived in Boston for nine months for work. Our office was at the Prudential Tower and lived at Comm and Mass Ave I believe. Was that near the Commons? I guess I could look it up but I know I know what the Commons is but I'm having trouble placing its location.
During my short time there I don't remember seeing a large homeless population but I also didn't have a car and stayed within a pretty confined area so it's quite possible I missed a lot.
cawacko
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Not to derail the thread but could anyone talking to you today tell you have Boston roots in terms of your accent?
anonymoose
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Not many. I lived in Syracuse NY in my late twenties and thirties. They have a mid-west accent and I adopted that for the most part. I can, however, get the lazy Boston accent back at any time.
My son is living there now for two years while his wife is in grad school. He grew up here in NC, but among mostly transplants, and he sounds like I do. He's having a lot of fun talking to locals though.
My dad worked in the Pru complex shortly after it was built and through the 1980's. Funny I don't remember commuting together even once. I was 7 blocks down Boylston Street, corner of Tremont, one block from the Combat Zone.
Funny story about the Pru. When I worked for the Connecticut DOT, mid 80's, I brought a couple guys up to Boston for the weekend to show them around. Both were from po-dunk PA and were not used to urban life, never mind a rough town like Boston. I drove us in in my early 70's Ford, which was of course ancient for that time and had been my urban assault vehicle for nearly a decade. We went in one night, I parked on the street. I parallel parked in a space about a foot longer than my big car and those guys were amazed.
Then we went bar hopping. At one place we were in a second floor table overlooking Boylston Street below and the Pru beyond that. Great view and a lot going on down on the street.
These guys were enthralled watching cars hunt for parking and there was an empty space right in front of us, but it was small because some douche in a small car parked well over the line, not at all centered in his spot. They were laughing while cars were stopping, sizing up the space, deciding it was too small so moving on. Finally some dude in a huge mid 70's Buick comes along, sizes up the space, pulls forward, then shifts into reverse and cranks it on in. My friends are starting to yell in the loud bar 'no way is he going to fit', then he makes gentle contact with the small car, then gives it more gas and pushes it back about six feet. The guy then pulled forward and centered perfectly into his new, full space. My friends were totally out of control laughing incredulously, as in 'WTF just happened'.
StoneByStone
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Iron spikes.
Unfortunately for many of them, that isn't going to help them~nor their neighbors..
Is there rules they must follow?? Who is enforcing them if there is??
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Residents of a San Francisco neighborhood have placed giant boulders along the sidewalk to keep homeless people from setting up tents there.
This isn't the first time boulders have been used for this purpose in San Francisco: In 2017, the city set up boulders under a highway, calling it a "humane" way to discourage people from camping out, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.
The boulders appeared just before President Donald Trump told reporters that homeless individuals were ruining "our best highways and our best streets" in San Francisco.
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As San Francisco officials clamber to find a solution for the city's escalating homelessness crisis, locals have taken some extreme measures to block homeless encampments on their streets.
About two weeks ago, residents of the city's Clinton Park neighborhood placed two dozen giant boulders along the sidewalk to keep homeless people from setting up tents in the area.
David Smith-Tan, who lives in Clinton Park, told local news station KTVU that he and his neighbors "chipped in a few hundred dollars" to have the boulders delivered. The neighborhood, he said, is frequently occupied by drug users who "shoot up and stay overnight."
Read more: San Francisco's dirtiest street has an outdoor drug market, discarded heroin needles, and piles of poop on the sidewalk
San Francisco has nearly 10,000 homeless residents, a number that's risen by 30% since 2017. Around 42% of these homeless people struggle with drug or alcohol abuse.
Ernesto Jerez, who also lives in Clinton Park, told KTVU that the boulders have already "helped" with the issue. The boulders each weigh hundreds of pounds, so the chances of homeless individuals being able to move them are slim.
The Clinton Park residents' decision to set up the boulders follows the lead of San Francisco's city government, which placed boulders under a highway in 2017 to block homeless encampments there. At the time, city officials said it was a "humane" way to discourage people from camping out, the San Francisco Chronicle reported. But after that, homeless residents either found a new spot to pitch their tents, or placed sleeping bags in the empty spaces between the rocks.
A San Francisco Public Works department spokeswoman told the Chronicle that the city doesn't plan to move the boulders in Clinton Park. She added that the department is even "looking at options to sanction the boulders."
In previous years, various groups in San Francisco have tried to deter homeless residents in other ways. In 2015, the San Francisco Roman Catholic Archdiocese installed sprinklers outside a cathedral that sprayed homeless residents who tried to camp out in their doorways. In the 1990s, the city removed benches from a plaza near City Hall to prevent people from sleeping on them; other benches throughout the city feature rails and spikes to prevent homeless individuals from lying down.
On his recent visit to California, President Donald Trump accused homeless people of ruining San Francisco's highways, streets, and building entrances. Many residents, he added, "moved to San Francisco because of the prestige of the city, and all of a sudden they have tents. Hundreds and hundreds of tents and people living at the entrance to their office building."
On Thursday, the Environmental Protection Agency informed the state of California that it was "failing to meet its obligations" under federal environmental laws, citing the "growing homelessness crisis" in LA and San Francisco as key contributors to the state's pollution.
Your thread title makes it appear that it's the homeless placing the boulders.
SF's homelessness residents are putting boulders on streets to stop sleeping there.
Your thread title makes it appear that it's the homeless placing the boulders.
SF's homelessness residents are putting boulders on streets to stop sleeping there.
thnx, I chopped it to fit in the title...Any opinions/comments etc on the OP??