Should Trump supporters be removed from society?

The economic aspects of Nazism were like like the economic aspects of EVERY government with both public and private sector economic functions--i,e,.every government.
Hitler was legally elected chancellor on a bunch of populist propaganda and then set up his dictatorship--the EXACT thing that Trump tried to do.

The United States has Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance---all almost universally popular---and all PURE socialism.
The vast majority of troglodytes bemoaning Democratic socialism don't have a fucking idea what socialism actually means.
They only know the propaganda cold war connotations as passed sown by their uneducated parents.
And every single one of them, except for a very few corporate oligarchs, would personally benefit from more socialism but are too stupid to know it.
The happily swallow oligarch semen in exchange for permission to be racists, xenophobes, misogynists, and blissfully uneducated.

Nazis had Councils manage corporations & a strict huge government labor union which worked with businesses.

These below make Nazi Germany Socialist.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Trust

Councils of Trust (German: Vertrauensräte) were established in businesses and companies with more than 20 employees in Nazi Germany following the introduction of the Labour organization law of 20 January 1934. They served as the only representation of employees to the “factory leader” (i.e. entrepreneur) (Betriebsführer) in order to increase mutual trust within the factory community.[1] Councillors were elected by secret ballots, but the list of candidates was prepared by the factory leader and the German Labour Front overseer (Betriebsobmann). The councils did not play an active role in industrial relations, except to serve as a platform for discussing working conditions regulated in the “factory code of rules” (Betriebsordnung).[2]

Council of Trust
Vertrauensräte
DAF Betriebsgemeinschaft.jpg
Council of Trust in German Labour Front organigram
Purpose
Representation of employees to the “factory leader”
Location
Germany
While in 1934 only 2 per cent of businesses and companies were required to establish a council of trust, this affected 46.2 per cent of employees.[3]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Labour_Front

The German Labour Front (German: Deutsche Arbeitsfront, pronounced [ˌdɔʏtʃə ˈʔaʁbaɪtsfʁɔnt]; DAF) was the labour organisation under the National Socialist German Workers' Party which replaced the various independent trade unions in Germany during Adolf Hitler's rise to power.

German Labour Front
Deutsche Arbeitsfront
Deutsche Arbeitsfront.svg
DAF flag
Abbreviation
DAF
Nickname
Hitler's NSDAP Worker Army
Predecessor
National Socialist Factory Cell Organization
Formation
10 May 1933
Dissolved
May 1945
Legal status
Defunct, Illegal
Membership (1945)
22 million
Leader of the DAF
Robert Ley
Parent organization
NSDAP
Subsidiaries
National Socialist Trade and Industry Organization
Beauty of Labour
Contents
History Edit
Its leader was Robert Ley, who stated that its aim was 'to create a true social and productive community'.[1] Theoretically, the DAF existed to act as a medium through which workers and owners could mutually represent their interests. Wages were set by the 12 DAF trustees. The employees were given security of employment, and dismissal was increasingly made difficult. Social security and leisure programmes were started, canteens, breaks, and regular working times were established. However, while some improvements to working conditions were enacted, wages were slightly reduced despite increased cost of living.[2]

Following the Nazis' Volksgemeinschaft approach towards developing a greater "people's community", the DAF expanded or established new social, educational, sports, health, and entertainment programs for German workers via the Strength through Joy programme, which included factory libraries and gardens, swimming pools, low-priced hot meals, adult education programs, periodic work breaks, physical education, sports facilities, gymnastic training, orchestral music during lunch breaks, free tickets to concerts and opera, and subsidised vacations that saw over 10.3 million Germans signed up by 1938.[3] The DAF financed the building of ocean-going vessels that permitted German workers to pay minimal prices to sail to many foreign destinations. Up to six ocean liners were operating just before the start of World War II. According to the chief of the Associated Press in Berlin, Louis P. Lochner, ticket prices for ocean steamer vessels ranged from twelve to sixteen marks for "a full week on such a steamer".[4] For those who desired vacations closer to home, the DAF constructed spa and summer resort complexes. The most ambitious was the 4.5 km long Prora complex on Rugen island, which was to have 20,000 beds, and would have been the largest beach resort in the world. It was never completed and the massive complex largely remained an empty shell right through until the 21st century.[4][5]

To help finance such ambitious social programmes, the DAF also operated one of the largest financial institutions—the Bank of German Labour—along with additional community programs such as medical screening, occupational training, legal assistance and programs to improve the company's working environment.[6] The DAF was one of the largest Nazi organisations, boasting of over 35,000 full-time employees by 1939.[6] To help Hitler keep his promise to have every German capable of owning an affordable car (Volkswagen—the People’s Car) the DAF subsidised the construction of an automobile factory, which was partially paid from workers' payroll deductions. None of the 340,000 workers who were paying for a car ever received one, since the factory had to be retooled for war production after Nazi Germany invaded Poland.

In the case of workplace abuses, the DAF set up worker councils to regulate and manage business practices, along with working hours and wages, and conflicts arising between employers and workers. In 1934, worker councils dismissed over 50 workers, while in the same year 13 employers were punished through the expropriation of their business.[7]

Employment contracts created under the Weimar Republic were abolished and renewed under new circumstances in the DAF. Employers could demand more of their workers, while at the same time workers were given increased security of work and increasingly enrolled into social security programmes for workers. The organisation, by its own definition, combated capitalism and liberalism, but also revolution against the factory owners and the Nazi regime. The DAF, however, did openly prefer to have large companies nationalised by the German state, instead of privately owned companies.

DAF membership was theoretically voluntary, but any workers in any area of German commerce or industry would have found it hard to get a job without being a member. Membership required a fee within the range of 15 pfennig to three Reichsmark, depending on the category a member fell into in a large scale of 20 membership groups. A substantially large amount of income was raised through fees. In 1934, the total intake was 300,000,000 Reichsmark. In US dollars, the annual income from dues to the Labour Front came to $160,000,000 in 1937 and $200,000,000 by 1939.[8]

Organization Edit
There were two main components of the DAF and these were:

Nationalsozialistische Betriebszellenorganisation (NSBO; National Socialist Factory Organization)
Nationalsozialistische Handels- und Gewerbeorganisation (NSHAGO; National Socialist Trade and Industry Organization)
Several other sub-organisations were set up:

Kraft durch Freude (KdF; Strength through Joy) – Organisation giving the workers cheap/free holidays in addition to subsidised sporting and leisure facilities.
Schönheit der Arbeit (SdA; Beauty of Labour) – Aimed to make workplaces more enticing to workers (e.g., renovations of outdated factories, new canteens for workers, smoking-free rooms, cleaner working spaces etc.).
The Front also organised the Reichsberufswettkampf, a national vocational competition.
 
1. I'm not running for public office.
2. Genocide refers to humans, not trumpanzees.
3. And finally, I have not supported any candidates proposing the massacre of all trumpanzees.
It's just a very feel-good concept for all non-morally deficient and non-intellectually deficient people.

Trumpanzees are eliminating themselves from society. They proved that by trying to overturn a free and fair election.

Perhaps they should start their own country, with privatized education by dipshit evangelicals who think evolution is a lie, then see how prosperous said country becomes.
 
Nazis had Councils manage corporations & a strict huge government labor union which worked with businesses.

These below make Nazi Germany Socialist.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Trust

Councils of Trust (German: Vertrauensräte) were established in businesses and companies with more than 20 employees in Nazi Germany following the introduction of the Labour organization law of 20 January 1934. They served as the only representation of employees to the “factory leader” (i.e. entrepreneur) (Betriebsführer) in order to increase mutual trust within the factory community.[1] Councillors were elected by secret ballots, but the list of candidates was prepared by the factory leader and the German Labour Front overseer (Betriebsobmann). The councils did not play an active role in industrial relations, except to serve as a platform for discussing working conditions regulated in the “factory code of rules” (Betriebsordnung).[2]

Council of Trust
Vertrauensräte
DAF Betriebsgemeinschaft.jpg
Council of Trust in German Labour Front organigram
Purpose
Representation of employees to the “factory leader”
Location
Germany
While in 1934 only 2 per cent of businesses and companies were required to establish a council of trust, this affected 46.2 per cent of employees.[3]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Labour_Front

The German Labour Front (German: Deutsche Arbeitsfront, pronounced [ˌdɔʏtʃə ˈʔaʁbaɪtsfʁɔnt]; DAF) was the labour organisation under the National Socialist German Workers' Party which replaced the various independent trade unions in Germany during Adolf Hitler's rise to power.

German Labour Front
Deutsche Arbeitsfront
Deutsche Arbeitsfront.svg
DAF flag
Abbreviation
DAF
Nickname
Hitler's NSDAP Worker Army
Predecessor
National Socialist Factory Cell Organization
Formation
10 May 1933
Dissolved
May 1945
Legal status
Defunct, Illegal
Membership (1945)
22 million
Leader of the DAF
Robert Ley
Parent organization
NSDAP
Subsidiaries
National Socialist Trade and Industry Organization
Beauty of Labour
Contents
History Edit
Its leader was Robert Ley, who stated that its aim was 'to create a true social and productive community'.[1] Theoretically, the DAF existed to act as a medium through which workers and owners could mutually represent their interests. Wages were set by the 12 DAF trustees. The employees were given security of employment, and dismissal was increasingly made difficult. Social security and leisure programmes were started, canteens, breaks, and regular working times were established. However, while some improvements to working conditions were enacted, wages were slightly reduced despite increased cost of living.[2]

Following the Nazis' Volksgemeinschaft approach towards developing a greater "people's community", the DAF expanded or established new social, educational, sports, health, and entertainment programs for German workers via the Strength through Joy programme, which included factory libraries and gardens, swimming pools, low-priced hot meals, adult education programs, periodic work breaks, physical education, sports facilities, gymnastic training, orchestral music during lunch breaks, free tickets to concerts and opera, and subsidised vacations that saw over 10.3 million Germans signed up by 1938.[3] The DAF financed the building of ocean-going vessels that permitted German workers to pay minimal prices to sail to many foreign destinations. Up to six ocean liners were operating just before the start of World War II. According to the chief of the Associated Press in Berlin, Louis P. Lochner, ticket prices for ocean steamer vessels ranged from twelve to sixteen marks for "a full week on such a steamer".[4] For those who desired vacations closer to home, the DAF constructed spa and summer resort complexes. The most ambitious was the 4.5 km long Prora complex on Rugen island, which was to have 20,000 beds, and would have been the largest beach resort in the world. It was never completed and the massive complex largely remained an empty shell right through until the 21st century.[4][5]

To help finance such ambitious social programmes, the DAF also operated one of the largest financial institutions—the Bank of German Labour—along with additional community programs such as medical screening, occupational training, legal assistance and programs to improve the company's working environment.[6] The DAF was one of the largest Nazi organisations, boasting of over 35,000 full-time employees by 1939.[6] To help Hitler keep his promise to have every German capable of owning an affordable car (Volkswagen—the People’s Car) the DAF subsidised the construction of an automobile factory, which was partially paid from workers' payroll deductions. None of the 340,000 workers who were paying for a car ever received one, since the factory had to be retooled for war production after Nazi Germany invaded Poland.

In the case of workplace abuses, the DAF set up worker councils to regulate and manage business practices, along with working hours and wages, and conflicts arising between employers and workers. In 1934, worker councils dismissed over 50 workers, while in the same year 13 employers were punished through the expropriation of their business.[7]

Employment contracts created under the Weimar Republic were abolished and renewed under new circumstances in the DAF. Employers could demand more of their workers, while at the same time workers were given increased security of work and increasingly enrolled into social security programmes for workers. The organisation, by its own definition, combated capitalism and liberalism, but also revolution against the factory owners and the Nazi regime. The DAF, however, did openly prefer to have large companies nationalised by the German state, instead of privately owned companies.

DAF membership was theoretically voluntary, but any workers in any area of German commerce or industry would have found it hard to get a job without being a member. Membership required a fee within the range of 15 pfennig to three Reichsmark, depending on the category a member fell into in a large scale of 20 membership groups. A substantially large amount of income was raised through fees. In 1934, the total intake was 300,000,000 Reichsmark. In US dollars, the annual income from dues to the Labour Front came to $160,000,000 in 1937 and $200,000,000 by 1939.[8]

Organization Edit
There were two main components of the DAF and these were:

Nationalsozialistische Betriebszellenorganisation (NSBO; National Socialist Factory Organization)
Nationalsozialistische Handels- und Gewerbeorganisation (NSHAGO; National Socialist Trade and Industry Organization)
Several other sub-organisations were set up:

Kraft durch Freude (KdF; Strength through Joy) – Organisation giving the workers cheap/free holidays in addition to subsidised sporting and leisure facilities.
Schönheit der Arbeit (SdA; Beauty of Labour) – Aimed to make workplaces more enticing to workers (e.g., renovations of outdated factories, new canteens for workers, smoking-free rooms, cleaner working spaces etc.).
The Front also organised the Reichsberufswettkampf, a national vocational competition.

"Here, you guys read this, I sure didn't."
 
Because you follow me around, stalking me like a LITERAL dog, and backing up your other sockpuppet's posts. It's fucking obvious, and it's fucking hilarious how you deny it.
no it's because you're argument is incorrect and you're lashing out trying to dismiss arguments against your position based on something that to my understanding and some against the rules.

If it bothers you what the fuck are you doing here. Is this like the complaining twat forum?


Why would I need any? I don't espouse completely stupid bullshit that only my sockpuppet agrees with.
You said something far stupider. you call the country that privatized social security it's public transportation and its education system socialist and then when I pointed to this out to you you said why would we call that socialism we didn't you did because you read about it on a buzzfeed.

If I'm a sock puppet of any poster here you're a sock puppet of the media without even being aware of it
 
I can tell just by your refusal/inability to write complete sentences with punctuation that you've never read a whole book in your life. Ergo, you know nothing about Sweden, or the definitions of any of these terms you use.

You can excuse your stupidity anyway you wish. You are the more on that said Sweden was socialist they are not.
 
That's exactly what democratic socialism is. That's precisely what AOC and Bernie and others push for. And what we push for isn't even NEARLY as "socialist" as what the nordic countries already have.

No it's not.

Norse Democracy isn't truly Socialism.

It's free market Capitalism with a lot of safety nets.

The definitions have been botched.
Probably by Republicans since McCarthyism calling everything they don't like Socialist meaning a lot of non Socialists too get grouped that way.
 
1. I'm not running for public office.
2. Genocide refers to humans, not trumpanzees.
3. And finally, I have not supported any candidates proposing the massacre of all trumpanzees.
It's just a very feel-good concept for all non-morally deficient and non-intellectually deficient people.

Sounds like a coping mechanism to me.
 
That's exactly what democratic socialism is. That's precisely what AOC and Bernie and others push for. And what we push for isn't even NEARLY as "socialist" as what the nordic countries already have.

That's not what socialism is socialism is venezuela, Soviet Union Nazi empire.

Sweden is capitalism.

You said it yourself private social security is not socialism it's not Democratic socialism because it's not socialism.
 
Are you proud of being yet another illiterate fucking idiot that doesn't know the difference between socialism and fascism?

What's unique to Fascism isn't
Racism, Nationalism, anti Semitic, Authoritarian / Totalitarianism, Theocracy.

All of these predate Fascism by thousands of years.

What's unique about Fascism is Councils that micromanaged corporations.

Besides, Mussolini initially argued against Hitler on there being no pure or superior races & even argued Jews had a right to Italy since Roman times.

For 13 years Mussolini even had Fascist supporting Jews most notable being Jew Etorre Ovazza.

Later on Mussolini did adopt some anti Semitic legislation.
Probably to appease Hitler.

But, Mussolini is not responsible for the Italian Holocaust.

Mussolini dragged his feet & therefore Hitler invaded Italy to bring the Holocaust to Italy.
 
That's not what socialism is socialism is venezuela, Soviet Union Nazi empire.

Sweden is capitalism.

You said it yourself private social security is not socialism it's not Democratic socialism because it's not socialism.

Neither socialism nor capitalism is any nation or country.

You are describing dictatorships and oligarchies vs republics.

The USSR despised Nazis. Nazism is from Germany and Hitler. Both are socialism. Fascism is one form of socialism, communism is another. Germany at the time was a dictatorship. So was the USSR.
Venezuela was a dictatorship and is now currently an oligarchy.
Sweden is currently a dictatorship. However, the current monarch is more tolerant of capitalism. Unusual for a king, since dissidents are encourage by that.

Social security is fascism. It is manipulation of markets by government...the very definition of capitalism. You are required to pay into the system (theft of wealth), fund the huge government implementing it, and giving what's left to those previously forced to pay into it. In other circles, it's a Ponzi scheme, and is illegal.

There is no such thing as 'democratic socialism'. Socialism is not a type of government. Socialism can certainly exist in democracies, but there are currently no democracies anywhere on Earth. A democracy is an unstable for of government, usually dissolving into a dictatorship or oligarchy before long.

The United States was a federated republic. Most States are still republics. A republic is government by constitution, not by men. Currently, the Democrat party has been converting the federal government into an oligarchy so they can implement fascism. I call it the SOA now. They no longer recognize the Constitution of the United States nor of any State constitution.
 
Basically Socialism light.

Nazis regulated larger private businesses partially, unlike Soviets who replaced them.

While Soviets confiscated private property, Nazis didn't for Germans at least.

No. Socialism heavy. Fascism is government manipulation of markets. Communism is government ownership of markets. They are both socialism, just different forms. Fascism is on the road to communism, it is true.
Both are theft of wealth. Yes. the Germans confiscated private property, even killing the owner to do it.
 
No. Socialism heavy. Fascism is government manipulation of markets. Communism is government ownership of markets. They are both socialism, just different forms. Fascism is on the road to communism, it is true.
Both are theft of wealth. Yes. the Germans confiscated private property, even killing the owner to do it.

Not really.
Nazism is fairly intermediate between USA Capitalism & Soviet Communism.
 
What's unique to Fascism isn't
Racism, Nationalism, anti Semitic, Authoritarian / Totalitarianism, Theocracy.

All of these predate Fascism by thousands of years.

What's unique about Fascism is Councils that micromanaged corporations.

Besides, Mussolini initially argued against Hitler on there being no pure or superior races & even argued Jews had a right to Italy since Roman times.

For 13 years Mussolini even had Fascist supporting Jews most notable being Jew Etorre Ovazza.

Later on Mussolini did adopt some anti Semitic legislation.
Probably to appease Hitler.

But, Mussolini is not responsible for the Italian Holocaust.

Mussolini dragged his feet & therefore Hitler invaded Italy to bring the Holocaust to Italy.

Bingo.
 
1. I'm not running for public office.
2. Genocide refers to humans, not trumpanzees.
3. And finally, I have not supported any candidates proposing the massacre of all trumpanzees.
It's just a very feel-good concept for all non-morally deficient and non-intellectually deficient people.

You just attempted to dehumanize a supermajority of the country that has more guns and knows how to kill much better than you do.

Here's your sign.

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Not really.
Nazism is fairly intermediate between USA Capitalism & Soviet Communism.

Fascism is a form of socialism. Socialism is theft of wealth. There are three basic forms:

Communism is government ownership of markets (and companies).
Fascism is government manipulation of markets (companies are left in private ownership, but told when and what to buy, sell, and who they must hire and fire).
Slavery is theft of wealth directly, via 'ownership' of people.

You are correct that fascism is on the road to communism. It is socialism, nevertheless. It is still theft of wealth.

Only capitalism creates wealth. Socialism cannot exist without capitalism, since it must have someone to steal from.

Since socialism is theft of wealth, it can only be implemented by dictatorships and oligarchies (a slave master is a dictator).
 
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