Should Two- and Four-Year Degrees Be Free?

[anonymoose]

blah blah blah

Now that’s what I call smart and informed.

 

[BidenPresident]

Now

duhhhh look at picture duhhhh

 

[T. A. Gardner]

What’s wrong with turfgrass science? I want my fairways and greens in pristine condition.

Nothing that you don't need a four-year university education to understand.

 

[Son of the Revolution]

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[AProudLefty]

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[Cypress]

You miss the point. These don't require a 4 year degree from a university to do. Floral design, blacksmithing, and what amounts to specialized landscaping are trades that can be learned by apprenticing or vocationally. Pop music on the other hand, is just a waste of time BA in nonsense.

But you are assuming I have to take your word for it that your post accurately reflects current college curriculum -- when I just showed you your post included wildly outdated information about college programs which were discontinued years ago.

You actually have no idea what is involved in turf management, black smithing and metallurgy, floral design, pop music management, except for what you might frantically google about it.

So you are not in a position to say how much education is required, are you?

Now, if you just want someone to apply fertilizer and mow the grass, that is clearly menial labor which does not require a college degree in turf management.

But turf management as an accredited profession undoubtedly requires knowlege and coursework in horticulture, plant genetics, soil science, water science, pesticides and fertilizer management, business administration and accounting, technical writing and public communications skills.

 

[Cypress]

Actually, blacksmithing is worth learning. There's a lot more to it than simply beating on hot knives. There's a lot to know about metallurgy. Metal compositions, hardening, tempering, grinding, finishing, etc.
Turfgrass science? TruGreen is a good, profitable business. Ever see what they charge? Football/baseball stadiums pay the head groundskeeper pretty well.

That said, there are many useless courses that have no worth whatsoever in career advancement. Unless you're teaching transgender studies in Pakistan...

Agree that the business of metallurgy and soil and plant management require a high degree of knowlege and business acumen if one is to succeed.

On the other hand, this is a free country, not Mao's China or Pol Pot's Cambodia. Not every higher education class taken has to be directly related to promoting the success of business or the State.

What is the point of having an advanced, western liberal democracy if Deplorables are going to yell at teenagers and young adults for taking classes in philosophy and Russian literature.

 

[Micawber]

What is the point of having an advanced, western liberal democracy if Deplorables are going to yell at teenagers and young adults for taking classes in philosophy and Russian literature.

Well said. And the loudest yellers never took either. Easy to decry that which you know nothing about.

Instead of making higher ed free, let's make the free ed K-12 do a better job of making an employable graduate. Notice I didn't say turn it into a trade school, I said better job.