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SmarterthanYou said:
fallacy. while the Constitution does mention things about rights that people have, it doesn't say that this Constitution gives people the right to 'insert right here'.......what it does say, numerous times, is that the government has no authority over certain rights that the people have.
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What kind of fallacy are you alleging? Is your statement not yours? Does your statement not pretty clearly state that there is nothing in the Constitution about the rights people have?

So the Constitution does say something about rights that people have?
Talking about rights is not the same thing as granting rights.
Talking about rights is not the same thing as taking away rights.

When the Constitution says a right can't be infringed that is pretty clearly saying the people have that right and retain that right since the government is restricted from taking that right away.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
I wonder what your interpretation of this sentence is -

the constitution doesn't list out our rights, it assigns specific and defined powers to a government. that's it. nothing about what rights the people have
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It is correct. RQAA.
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Based on that sentence does the Constitution say anything about rights that the people have?
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RQAA. It discusses some of those rights. It does not list them or create them.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Fallacy fallacy.

The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster (almost always Into the Night) claims something is a fallacy in order to appear smarter than they actually are.

Since it was not I who claimed the Constitution listed no rights you are agreeing with me while claiming I am wrong. I never said rights came from the Constitution. I said that some rights are listed in the Constitution. If a document lists items that doesn't mean the items originate within the document. If that did occur it would make shopping lists so much easier, the items would simply appear when they were written down.






Fallacy fallacy.

The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster (almost always Into the Night) claims something is a fallacy in order to appear smarter than they actually are.

Whether rights are listed in the Constitution has no bearing on where the rights come from. Your argument makes no sense in light of my actual statement.
If the Constitution says nothing about what rights the people have then it would have to list no rights.
It would be almost impossible for anyone with average or above reading comprehension to read my statement and think it means rights originate in the Constitution. Either you are creating a straw man to argue against or your reading comprehension is below average.


Fallacy fallacy.

The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster (almost always Into the Night) claims something is a fallacy in order to appear smarter than they actually are.

Once again you are claiming you don't agree with me and then you agree with me.
1. Rights are listed in the Constitution. I said some rights are listed in the Constitution. SmarterthanYou claimed the Constitution says nothing about rights. You say some rights are listed in the Constitution.
2. I pointed out if as SmarterthanYou claimed that no rights were listed in the Constitution then the 9th amendment would make no sense since the 9th amendment claims that rights exist above and beyond those listed elsewhere in the Constitution.



Fallacy fallacy.

The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster (almost always Into the Night) claims something is a fallacy in order to appear smarter than they actually are.

Do you agree with this statement on all aspects or not?
the constitution doesn't list out our rights, it assigns specific and defined powers to a government. that's it. nothing about what rights the people have.
Explain your answer in light of your own arguments that this is true and false at the same time.
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Mockery. Word stuffing. Trolling. No argument presented.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
fallacy. while the Constitution does mention things about rights that people have, it doesn't say that this Constitution gives people the right to 'insert right here'.......what it does say, numerous times, is that the government has no authority over certain rights that the people have.
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Correct. You are also correct calling his fallacy, a false dichotomy fallacy.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
What kind of fallacy are you alleging?
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RQAA.
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Is your statement not yours?
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A ridiculous question.
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Does your statement not pretty clearly state that there is nothing in the Constitution about the rights people have?

So the Constitution does say something about rights that people have?
Talking about rights is not the same thing as granting rights.
Talking about rights is not the same thing as taking away rights.

When the Constitution says a right can't be infringed that is pretty clearly saying the people have that right and retain that right since the government is restricted from taking that right away.
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RQAA. Semantics fallacy. False dichotomy fallacy.
 
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