Should USA borrow more?

Should USA borrow more to pay for Haiti people rescue and rebuilding?

  • No, USA cannot pay what it owes now

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am not certain

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .
You, along with about 50% of the US citizenry---never did, and never will feel any freedom---ever.

Here is a global point of the great China. Because I come from manufacturing, and know we have to produce things of value to add value to our families, city, state and nation--I saw this global economic disaster comming over 10 years ago. I was told by a CEO of a electronics company in CA. (my cosins husband) that "If we help China with our welath making capabilities, the citizens will eventually become consumers of our products."

Well---not to many China workers can afford anything still--after 31 years (China decided to give semi private capatalism a try in 1978---and the redistribution of western culture wealth making capabilities began)---I sell my little engines all over the world. The USA, Canada, All of Europe, parts of the middle East. I have sold about 4000 engines and I don'tknow how many top end kits (a lot more)---but I never sold one to anybody in China.

You are ill-informed.

China's automobile market is now the most robust among all nations.

Perhaps you would not embarass your self if you learned the facts before presuming to lecture others.

Here as a gesture of goodwill is a source of learning for you.

http://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom...earch/dtt_dr_china_consumer_report_021109.pdf
 
It is regrettable for your nation's image that you dub yourself the 'majority'.

The desire to exploit developing societies seems ingrained in what you call your 'national character'. .

I don't know how you can think of me so backwards there. Like I said--the USA helped rebuild Japan after ww2, and there was no redistribution of wealth making capabilities. They advanced quite a bit in the 50 years after that--and nobody is only making a dollar a day. I feel sorry for the Chinese citizenery, and any citizenery of todays methods of helping nations develope, because I know the way we do it now will drop the whole curve drastically of citizen prosperity around the world on the average. I know China has some great minds---so why is it that your government did not allow those individuals to advance your the human condition in the home land.

Come on man---your people have been oppressed for 2000 years---get rid of your government.

I will offer you our constitution for free. do you have the individual human spirit to make it work---may be even better than it worked for us. In my mind. It is not the land we stand on (some do have more natural resourses than others though), nor is the people of different persuasians who stand on that land. It is the freedom a government allows it's people that makes people prosperious. Why? Because free people do amazing things, and it doe3s not matter where you are from, or what color you are. The USA attracted people with a dream from all over the world, and we have huge sucessors from every race here who added value to this nation---when their home land would not allow them to do so.

Like I said--you have had 2000 years, and those workers should be making a lot more money if they want a chance to follow their dreams and add good things to the human condition.

I have faith in people, not dictatorship---I am just funny that way.
 
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I don't know how you can think of me so backwards there. Like I said--the USA helped rebuild Japan after ww2, and there was no redistribution of wealth making capabilities. They advanced quite a bit in the 50 years after that--and nobody is only making a dollar a day. I feel sorry for the Chinese citizenery, and any citizenery of todays methods of helping nations develope, because I know the way we do it now will drop the whole curve drastically of citizen prosperity around the world on the average. I know China has some great minds---so why is it that your government did not allow those individuals to advance your socisties prosperity for it's citizens.

Come on man---your people have been oppressed for 2000 years---get rid of your government.

I will offer you our constitution for free. do you have the individual human spirit to make it work---may be even better tyhan it worked for us. In my mind. It is not the land we stand on (so do have more natural resourses than others though), nor is the people of different persuasians who stand on that land. It is the freedom a government allows it's people that makes people prosperious. Why? Because free people do amazing things, and it doe3s not matter where you are from, or what color you are. The USA attracted people with a dream from all over the world, and we have huge sucessors from every race here who added value to this nation---when their home land would not allow them to do so.

Like I said--you have had 2000 years, and those workers should be making a lot more money if they want a chance to follow their dreams and add good things to the human condition.

I have faith in people---I am just funy that way.

How arrogant you seem. I reject your pity. USA rebuilt Japan as a vassal bulwark against progressive regimes, which fact you forgot to mention.

Today, now that you do not use Japan as a tool of imperialist militarism, it's economy, like yours is failing.

We have no need of the hypocrisies in your constitution. Our workers have our own constitution, and our culture is far older than yours. Perhaps you are ignorant of these things.

Personal income is not the cornerstone of our culture. Nor is accumulation of material goods. Thus I perceive the hollowness of your culture, which after all is only approximately two centuries old.

It is amusing that you boast of high wages when your economy is in ruins, many workers are idled, and almost half of those who still have employment owe more than they earn.

American race hatred is a byword, making a sham of your claims of equality for all.
 
How arrogant you seem. I reject your pity. USA rebuilt Japan as a vassal bulwark against progressive regimes, which fact you forgot to mention.

(exactly what needed to be done---but just a delay of progressive global poverty.)

Today, now that you do not use Japan as a tool of imperialist militarism, it's economy, like yours is failing.

(Don't forget--insterad of China paying workers--they are building their military--at your own peoples expense--not all all rare for a dictatorship. All established indsutrial nations economy is faling. It is because of irresponsible redistribution of wealth making capabilities. I see this as the eveil means to a global progressive ends--and if you think anybody will have the prosperity we have the chance to have now will still be anywhere in the world--you are mistaken. That sir--is not the progressive plan.)

We have no need of the hypocrisies in your constitution. Our workers have our own constitution, and our culture is far older than yours. Perhaps you are ignorant of these things.

(then do you have to steal from us by exploiting slave labor?) WHY CAN'T YOU DEVELOPE YOUR OWN PROSPERITY --like we did?)

Personal income is not the cornerstone of our culture. Nor is accumulation of material goods. Thus I perceive the hollowness of your culture, which after all is only approximately two centuries old.

(Yea---MSNBC (progressive news in the USA--with very poor ratings) once showed us how much of a treat it is to eat bugs like much of the Chinese people do in their culture. Wanna bet if I throw out some prime rib, I bet those bugs don't get favored anymore.) If we have nothing--we will get used to it--but I know the prime rib gets eaten first. If you don't mind being poor as your culture does not support individual prosperity opportunity for all---then why are you bitching?--I have my own mind--and I have my own plans, and I CHOOSE, not to be poor---when you allow your government to make that choice for you---and your gonna like it! Praise the economic culture in China! I think much of the rest of the culture is honorable, but you have to much old honor to a government who does not honor you---at all.---Or is it fear of your governemnt?)

It is amusing that you boast of high wages when your economy is in ruins, many workers are idled, and almost half of those who still have employment owe more than they earn.

(but this individual in the USA saw it comming--and side stepped into my personal business out of my one car garage. I learned not to depend on somebody else for a pay check, and very glad I developed some skills to sell.
I will not roll with the progressive communist great society that has never beaten us--so I will never be forced to have to eat bugs---and them told be proud of myself.)

American race hatred is a byword, making a sham of your claims of equality for all.

(this is the gaffed criticizm I just can't understand. America is racist? We have the most diverse population in the world. Isn't that s strange fact for the big racist nation?)

(if you can't beat the USA---you must destroy it--as if you would gain something in the process. Remember--you folks were poor in China for a long time before the USA existed. It is not results you look for----you want to see the USA go down. The result of that weill be more poverty world wide---and you know it. For example---if it were not for the USA and Western culture prosperity---you would have nobody to steal from today!

My prediction is---the world will be successfull in tearing down the USA. But because many of us still know how to think for ourselves, we will be back--and you will still be poor---with your charished culture of eating bugs.)


PS--I have one guy that works for me in my basement, and I pay him over $20/hr. If I hired a Chinese guy---is it OK if I only pay him 1/20th of that? Yea---didn't think so--even if it is a drilled in culture to be poor.

Right now--the Chinese people making slaqve wages is better than what they had. But are they spending the extra money? No. They do not want to be poor either. They do what makes them great--they save--because it is like coming out of the 1929 depression for them. If you economy was intended to allow more wealth to your citizens, they would eventually get confident that they can sustain, and will spend---just like any other human population on earth. YOU WERE AND ARE FORCED TO BE POOR--and it is evil to force that on the rest of the world--as progressivism does.
 
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You are foolish.

China does what is necessary using available resources and aims to ensure success long-term.

Your nation does not follow this dictum.

sweet....then China will continue to give us back the money we spend on your knicknacks....and we will give you little pieces of paper and pay you 1.44% interest and you will be anxious to give us even more money because if you don't, no one will buy your little knicknacks......
 
How arrogant you seem. I reject your pity. USA rebuilt Japan as a vassal bulwark against progressive regimes, which fact you forgot to mention.

(exactly what needed to be done---but just a delay of progressive global poverty.)

Today, now that you do not use Japan as a tool of imperialist militarism, it's economy, like yours is failing.

(Don't forget--insterad of China paying workers--they are building their military--at your own peoples expense--not all all rare for a dictatorship. All established indsutrial nations economy is faling. It is because of irresponsible redistribution of wealth making capabilities. I see this as the eveil means to a global progressive ends--and if you think anybody will have the prosperity we have the chance to have now will still be anywhere in the world--you are mistaken. That sir--is not the progressive plan.)

We have no need of the hypocrisies in your constitution. Our workers have our own constitution, and our culture is far older than yours. Perhaps you are ignorant of these things.

(then do you have to steal from us by exploiting slave labor?) WHY CAN'T YOU DEVELOPE YOUR OWN PROSPERITY --like we did?)

Personal income is not the cornerstone of our culture. Nor is accumulation of material goods. Thus I perceive the hollowness of your culture, which after all is only approximately two centuries old.

(Yea---MSNBC (progressive news in the USA--with very poor ratings) once showed us how much of a treat it is to eat bugs like much of the Chinese people do in their culture. Wanna bet if I throw out some prime rib, I bet those bugs don't get favored anymore.) If we have nothing--we will get used to it--but I know the prime rib gets eaten first. If you don't mind being poor as your culture does not support individual prosperity opportunity for all---then why are you bitching?--I have my own mind--and I have my own plans, and I CHOOSE, not to be poor---when you allow your government to make that choice for you---and your gonna like it! Praise the economic culture in China! I think much of the rest of the culture is honorable, but you have to much old honor to a government who does not honor you---at all.---Or is it fear of your governemnt?)

It is amusing that you boast of high wages when your economy is in ruins, many workers are idled, and almost half of those who still have employment owe more than they earn.

(but this individual in the USA saw it comming--and side stepped into my personal business out of my one car garage. I learned not to depend on somebody else for a pay check, and very glad I developed some skills to sell.
I will not roll with the progressive communist great society that has never beaten us--so I will never be forced to have to eat bugs---and them told be proud of myself.)

American race hatred is a byword, making a sham of your claims of equality for all.

(this is the gaffed criticizm I just can't understand. America is racist? We have the most diverse population in the world. Isn't that s strange fact for the big racist nation?)

(if you can't beat the USA---you must destroy it--as if you would gain something in the process. Remember--you folks were poor in China for a long time before the USA existed. It is not results you look for----you want to see the USA go down. The result of that weill be more poverty world wide---and you know it. For example---if it were not for the USA and Western culture prosperity---you would have nobody to steal from today!

My prediction is---the world will be successfull in tearing down the USA. But because many of us still know how to think for ourselves, we will be back--and you will still be poor---with your charished culture of eating bugs.)


PS--I have one guy that works for me in my basement, and I pay him over $20/hr. If I hired a Chinese guy---is it OK if I only pay him 1/20th of that? Yea---didn't think so--even if it is a drilled in culture to be poor.

Right now--the Chinese people making slaqve wages is better than what they had. But are they spending the extra money? No. They do not want to be poor either. They do what makes them great--they save--because it is like coming out of the 1929 depression for them. If you economy was intended to allow more wealth to your citizens, they would eventually get confident that they can sustain, and will spend---just like any other human population on earth. YOU WERE AND ARE FORCED TO BE POOR--and it is evil to force that on the rest of the world--as progressivism does.

We develop a national model you cannot understand. Our people are not poor in the sense you allege.

Our people save and do not borrow unnecessarily. Hence we have built a society that lasts.

Educate yourself.

http://english.gov.cn/
 
So, in my poll all either state that

1) USA must borrow more to finance their 'charity' toward Haiti, which is bought with debt USA children will repay years hence.

2) A majority makes fatuous claims of solvency in disregard of real facts

Most did not vote at all. This is also the case in your 'free' elections for government which you boast of so often.

If these votes are so prideful, why do not you make use of them?
 
So, in my poll all either state that

1) USA must borrow more to finance their 'charity' toward Haiti, which is bought with debt USA children will repay years hence.

2) A majority makes fatuous claims of solvency in disregard of real facts

Most did not vote at all. This is also the case in your 'free' elections for government which you boast of so often.

If these votes are so prideful, why do not you make use of them?


Osama is making use of your momma, when he does her. :yermom:
 
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