Sick People Should Pay More

As I said, I offered a solution to one group paying for another. Stop providing the healthcare is they can't pay and you refuse to do it on behalf of those for which you claim to care.

A gas station doesn't give you gas if you can't pay. A grocery store doesn't give you groceries if you can't pay. Why should healthcare be different?

"A grocery store doesn't give you groceries if you can't pay."
Have you noticed that the Government gives people money (Food Stamps) so they don't starve?
 
I stand corrected. You are correct, the only way not to pay for peoples healthcare is to push them to the curb. I am sure you are fine with that.

What I'm fine with is those of you thinking someone should get something they can't pay for themselves funding it on their behalf. If they can't and you won't do for those to which you claim to care, tough.
 
I bet you would drive from hospital to hospital rejoicing in the dead people sitting by the curb because they had no money. How would you fund the garbage truck to come by and pick them up on trash day? Bill the family?
What I'm fine with is those of you thinking someone should get something they can't pay for themselves funding it on their behalf. If they can't and you won't do for those to which you claim to care, tough.
 
"A grocery store doesn't give you groceries if you can't pay."
Have you noticed that the Government gives people money (Food Stamps) so they don't starve?

The government is only the go between. That money is coming from the taxpayers as the government produces no goods nor provides any services that brings in revenue to fund it.

The grocery store still isn't giving away the food. They're getting their money to the same level as if a responsible person that's willing to do for themselves pays. I was in the grocery store earlier today and didn't see one price for those using their own money and for those using someone else's money.
 
I bet you would drive from hospital to hospital rejoicing in the dead people sitting by the curb because they had no money. How would you fund the garbage truck to come by and pick them up on trash day? Bill the family?

Apparently you do rejoice since you claim to care for them and say they should have something you're unwilling to provide them.

There's another good idea. Have their family pay for their healthcare if they can't instead of someone else's family getting the bill. Now you're on to something.
 
I bet you would drive from hospital to hospital rejoicing in the dead people sitting by the curb because they had no money. How would you fund the garbage truck to come by and pick them up on trash day? Bill the family?

Soylent Green. :(
 
I did not say I care. I just think we should have an efficient science based healthcare system, or push people to the curb if they cant pay. You are one of the few that could tolerate just letting people die. Thankfully.
Apparently you do rejoice since you claim to care for them and say they should have something you're unwilling to provide them.

There's another good idea. Have their family pay for their healthcare if they can't instead of someone else's family getting the bill. Now you're on to something.
 
There's two models of thought here.

1. It's a Money-Making operation. Which means you only insure healthy people, NOT sick people.
2. You think it's a Social Issue. You provide Basic Health Care to everyone.

There's a basic model for insurance. People pay rates in accordance with the risk that the insurance company will have to pay a claim and the value of that claim. Health insurance shouldn't be called "insurance" under your second model of thought.
 
I did not say I care. I just think we should have an efficient science based healthcare system, or push people to the curb if they cant pay. You are one of the few that could tolerate just letting people die. Thankfully.

Then why do you think someone else should care if you don't?

There is a short list of people to which I hold that level of responsibility. Sad part is bleeding hearts think it's their place to add people to MY list. Funny thing is they aren't adding anyone to their own.
 
There's a basic model for insurance. People pay rates in accordance with the risk that the insurance company will have to pay a claim and the value of that claim. Health insurance shouldn't be called "insurance" under your second model of thought.

For it to honestly be called health insurance, it would have to operate under the concept of risk with premiums based on those risks. What we have today and what has been proposed by the left isn't insurance. It's a transfer of money from those willing to take responsibility for themselves to those unwilling to do so.
 
Dumbasses like you should pay triple, for being hazards to themselves, and others. Insurance should be able to drop them, just like their parents did. People who have issues, already pay more when premiums skyrocket after things happen, and the real issue is denial of insurance.

JD
Aren't you on SSDI?
 
There's a basic model for insurance. People pay rates in accordance with the risk that the insurance company will have to pay a claim and the value of that claim. Health insurance shouldn't be called "insurance" under your second model of thought.

"Health insurance shouldn't be called "insurance" under your second model of thought."
That's the only part of the Health Care System that is Nationalized. And only for those '65 and Older'.

The Hospitals aren't Publicly owned.
The Doctors and Nurses aren't paid by the State.
 
I don't get why conservatives espouse insurance. Shouldn't it be pay for service?
For it to honestly be called health insurance, it would have to operate under the concept of risk with premiums based on those risks. What we have today and what has been proposed by the left isn't insurance. It's a transfer of money from those willing to take responsibility for themselves to those unwilling to do so.
 
I don't get why conservatives espouse insurance. Shouldn't it be pay for service?

I don't espouse what you lefties currently call insurance. It isn't insurance. For it to be called that, risks have to be taken into account and if the risks are too much for those paying, they can deny to take that risk.

It works that way with automobile insurance in my State.
 
"Health insurance shouldn't be called "insurance" under your second model of thought."
That's the only part of the Health Care System that is Nationalized. And only for those '65 and Older'.

The Hospitals aren't Publicly owned.
The Doctors and Nurses aren't paid by the State.


What we call health insurance today isn't insurance. Insurance involves letting those that would assume the risk determine if they want to assume it. Works that way with car insurance. Why not with health insurance.
 
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