Slavery was horrific

Yakuda said:
It's irrelevant that spooner was critical of Christianity it doesn't change that Christianity was at the front of the abolition movement
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it was also at the front of the slavery defense movement. ministers had written the majority of all published defenses of slavery
 
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BartenderElite said:
It's incredibly telling that for literally decades, when the topic of racism comes up, the only name conservatives come up w/ is "Byrd."
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George Wallace and Joe Biden.

In 2007, he (Biden) referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”

In 2006, he said (Biden) , “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

Way back in 1977 (Biden), he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”

Of course, he (Biden) infamously worked with segregationist senators to oppose that mandatory busing, which decades later led to the strongest moment in Kamala Harris’s campaign for president, when she blasted him as having personally impacted her as a young girl.
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https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks

 
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Yakuda said:
It's irrelevant that spooner was critical of Christianity it doesn't change that Christianity was at the front of the abolition movement
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These words were written by the Captain of a slaving ship that turned into a Christian and an abolitionist.

Amazing grace how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost, but now I'm found
Was blind but now I see
'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear
And grace my fears relieved
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed
Through many dangers, toils, and snares
I have already come
This grace that brought me safe thus far
And grace will lead me home
When we've been here ten thousand years
Bright, shining as the sun
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we first begun
Amazing grace how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost, but now I'm found
Was blind but now I see
 
ExpressLane said:
BTW in Civil Rights Act in 1964 was passed by only 63% of Democrats and 80% of Republicans. Now explain to me which party was more racist.
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This is a totally disingenuous statement
by a poster who knows
how many southern democrats
turned republican either immediately or shortly thereafter.

Even an inadequate intellect like Breakdown Lane
knows that he/she/it is fooling nobody with this nonsense
but has no conscience about wasting bandwidth or boring people.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
ExpressLane said:
BTW in Civil Rights Act in 1964 was passed by only 63% of Democrats and 80% of Republicans. Now explain to me which party was more racist.
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This is a totally disingenuous statement.....
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"Disingenuous" sums up ExLax's personality in a nutshell.

In this case, he takes a fact from almost 60 years ago and then applies it to today's politics.

Notice he doesn't label Trump's Traitors as Democrats nor does he condemn Trump's pedophilia and association with pedophiles in the '80s and '90s. LOL

In ExLax's favor, I think he sampled too much of his own drugs and has suffered some form of brain damage.

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BartenderElite said:
Don't listen to Florida.
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Poor whites most likely had it worse.

Think about it. Slavery acted like a final social safety net. Someone was financially incentivized to keep you alive. You could say it was for the wrong reasons but its still true. The loss of a slave was amajor financial loss for the owner. If he lost too much then he would go under.

This meant two things. First no matter what a black slave was always going to get food shelter and clothing. It wouldnt be great food shelter and clothing but it would be there. A poor white would have nothing and die.

Second the most crap dangerous jobs would go to the poor whites. Why? Because they didnt risk your investment. You paid them a daily or monthly wage and if they died then that was the only thing you lost. Unlike a slave which is a significant investment.
 
tsuke said:
Poor whites most likely had it worse.

Think about it. Slavery acted like a final social safety net. Someone was financially incentivized to keep you alive. You could say it was for the wrong reasons but its still true. The loss of a slave was amajor financial loss for the owner. If he lost too much then he would go under.

This meant two things. First no matter what a black slave was always going to get food shelter and clothing. It wouldnt be great food shelter and clothing but it would be there. A poor white would have nothing and die.

Second the most crap dangerous jobs would go to the poor whites. Why? Because they didnt risk your investment. You paid them a daily or monthly wage and if they died then that was the only thing you lost. Unlike a slave which is a significant investment.
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Huh?
 
BartenderElite said:
Don't listen to Florida.
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Dear Bar-fly Elite,


Here's how I see it...


Supose you are a 35 year old Africa-American male or female who was born in the USA and has forebears who were African slaves in America.


Now, if your African slave ancestors weren't originally brought to British- America colonies or America (the republic) on a ship during the time when importing African slaves from the West Congo, Central Africa, etc; to North America was legal, THEN YOU WOULD NOT BE LIVING IN AMERICA TODAY IN 2023. RIGHT?



In a perverse kind of way the Black African/Carribean - American who is a citizen of the US today (2023), whose ancestors were slaves in American in the 17th/18th/19th centuries, CAN - all things considered - THANK THEIR LUCKY STARS THAT THERE WAS A TRANSATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE. Because if there were not, then right now they would probably be living in some part of Africa like the West Congo.



The West Congo is not a fun place to live....



* There are non-stop Civil Wars that have been raging for decades.




* Cannibalism is still quite widely practiced. (Yes, SERIOUSLY).



* Basic goods like toilet paper don't exist - you have to wipe your ass with a vine leaf or your fingers.



* As for where you live, that probably going to be a mud hut with a straw roof in some poxy village.



* If you're a woman - married or single, there's no feminist #MeToo movement going on. If some male decides he wants sex, and choses you, then you will get raped and there is nothing you can do about it. Nor is there any possibility of taking legal action against your assailant.



* If you have children you can forget about sending them to any school, because there may be no schools at all in the region you live in. If there are the quality of teaching and learning is so poor that it makes K-12 public schools in California seem like centres of excellence in comparison.



* As for public Healthcare, it's rat-shit. There is a serious dearth of prescription drugs and qualified doctors and safe hospitals.



So, you would want to be in the Congo, BUT HEY, you could move down to ...errm... The Democratic Republic of South Africe. Right? Well, no not really because it has one of the highest murder rates in the world, (ditto rape/other sexual assault) 37% 0f the population are unemployed; over 50% live below the poverty line; there are public school but there is little point in sending your children to them because they will learn NOTHING; ESKOM, the state-owned power grid is currently failing critically (typically electrical power if cut off completely EVERY DAY for between 10 and 16 hours (seriously),rail transport infrastructure is f**ked the economy is "flat-lining"; there is still an epidemic of HIV, the government is soooo corrupt, you probably would not believe the details, the state bureaucracy is also corrupt, notably the police force.



The Democratic Republic of South Africa, despite having some of the world richest reserves of valuable minerals - is on the very cusp of becoming a FAILED STATE. It isa major-league S**T-Hole as President Trump might say, and there's no way - except literally at gun-point) - I would ever fly from my peaceful and beautiful homeland (Australia) to take a vacation there.



Actually, allow me to cut to the chase, the entirety of sub-Saharan Africa is basically one large S**T-HOLE...S**T-HOLE ! S**T-HOLE! S**T-HOLE !



My point is this...


If you are the hypothetical, 35 year-old, African/Carribean -AMerican citizen who is directly descended from slaves, YOU ARE ONE VERY LUCKY WIDDLE BUNNY RABBIT.


IN America...


You never want for food. There is so much good, cheap food available it's not funny. If you want you can afford to by tasty fast food like: "Maccas", "Chick-Fil-A", Taco-Belle; KFC, etc


You have a computer/lap-top and probably an iPhone.



If you can't find employment, you won't starve because the Welfare State will take care of you.


If ever you are seriously ill or injured you WILL be able to access expert physicians and any other health - care you need.



(For the males) there are lots of hot Chix in America, if you clean up your act you you could score with a hot blonde !! (who has nice, perky titties >>>) ::yay::yay::yay::yay:



In short you are lucky - very lucky to be in America in 2023 for reasons like these, and a zillion others. You should try to remember that and not denigrate and "spit upon" White Americans and YOUR OWN COUNTRY (the Republic of America). White Americans are not racist White Supremacists and/or domestic terrorists. Because you are so lucky to be living in America, you should try to show some sincere respect and appreciation for American social/cultural/political institutions. This is because they are Western Institutions, and Western culture is objectively superior to any other culture that has ever emerged in the 6000 - year history of human civilisation. FACT.



My concluding advise to you would be to severe yourself COMPLETELY from the Democratic Party in the US. Do not ever vote for it in municipal, state or federal elections,: have nothing to do with any of its political activists, groups or community organisers. Wash your hands of the Democratic Party COMPLETELY They are all reprobates and scoundrels who do NOTgive flying F**k about the welfare of Black Americans. They do not care about you, in fact, they would cut your throat for 50 cents. Remember that.




Dachshund - the WONDER HOUND

DLM....Dachshund Lives Matter !!
 
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tsuke said:
Poor whites most likely had it worse.

Think about it. Slavery acted like a final social safety net. Someone was financially incentivized to keep you alive. You could say it was for the wrong reasons but its still true. The loss of a slave was amajor financial loss for the owner. If he lost too much then he would go under.

This meant two things. First no matter what a black slave was always going to get food shelter and clothing. It wouldnt be great food shelter and clothing but it would be there. A poor white would have nothing and die.

Second the most crap dangerous jobs would go to the poor whites. Why? Because they didnt risk your investment. You paid them a daily or monthly wage and if they died then that was the only thing you lost. Unlike a slave which is a significant investment.
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Slavery acted like a final social safety net
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guno said:
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The African countries that captured, abused, enslaved, and sold other Africans into slavery should pay Reparations to the U.S to be used to pay down our national debt. They either pay or get not one more ounce of aid from us. Its only right.
 
Stone said:
The African countries that captured, abused, enslaved, and sold other Africans into slavery should pay Reparations to the U.S to be used to pay down our national debt. They either pay or get not one more ounce of aid from us. Its only right.
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^^^
Claims he's not a racist White Supremacist.
 
tsuke said:
Poor whites most likely had it worse.

Think about it. Slavery acted like a final social safety net. Someone was financially incentivized to keep you alive. You could say it was for the wrong reasons but its still true. The loss of a slave was amajor financial loss for the owner. If he lost too much then he would go under.

This meant two things. First no matter what a black slave was always going to get food shelter and clothing. It wouldnt be great food shelter and clothing but it would be there. A poor white would have nothing and die.

Second the most crap dangerous jobs would go to the poor whites. Why? Because they didnt risk your investment. You paid them a daily or monthly wage and if they died then that was the only thing you lost. Unlike a slave which is a significant investment.
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Do you come from a monarchist country, Tsuke? No American would ever make a post like that. At least no American who believes "Live Free or Die".
 
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