Smartest, most successful, and richest candidate on Healthcare

Bad taste in fiction combined with bad taste in religion indicates low intelligence.
Both of them are simply opinion and a sign of nothing. Religious "bad taste" can be simply as much as you choosing to not be a Christian to most of the US.

This tastes like, walks like and acts like a religious test. I prefer to rate them based on their political positions. Romney is definitely not my favorite candidate.
 
The funny thing about it is that one thing is broken, health care, while the other is not, Social Security.

And I'd like to point out that if you look at the details of the Romney plan it is absolutely nothing like what we have here in Massachusetts. Basically, Mitt is saying that he knows a lot about how to fix the healthcare problem since he did it in Massachusetts and then is offering up a plan that is nothing like the fix he implemented here.


SOcial security isn't broken? You must be some old fuck ready to cash in, prepared to continue the pyramid scheme.
 
After hearing that Romney's favorite book is "Battlefield Earth", I'm unable to even consider voting for him.

R U serious ? WOW, just one more justification for my anti Romney attitude.
The book was ok, but not great. I guess Mitt liked the intergalactic capitalism aspect of it. Earth was sold and bought without any input from or benefit to the inhabitants of earth....
 
yep, same thing about JFK, but there's a world of difference between the Catholic religion and Mormonism.
There are some differences tru. but if the chips were down and I had to choose either a mornon or a Catholic. (and it was the only real difference,)I would definity choose the mormon.
 
Ok so hes follows (likely half assed) a religion that is ridiculous and reads shitty books and wears suits on the beach.

This still does not dismiss the facts that he is the smartest and most successful person running.

Maybe he does not belong in the role of president of the united states.. but take a look at his education and success in life.. then compare that to the other goons.
 
There are some differences tru. but if the chips were down and I had to choose either a mornon or a Catholic. (and it was the only real difference,)I would definity choose the mormon.

doni and I agree on this one. If that was the only difference between two candidates I'd likely go with the Mormons.
 
Your love of Romney is intense Chap.

LOL at love.

I just respect his success. Being in finance I know how hard it is to be successful like he was at hedge funds. Ask anyone that knows. It’s a brutal slave job to do what he did. We are not talking about name recognition to success via georgie or Hillary here.

Also I have read his articles on his career work and its most impressive.

Now like I said.. is being the most personally successful person automatically makes him the best candidate? No. Other things such as religion, charisma, and such have to also be weighed.
 
How long has this healthcare plan that Mitt is touting been in place ?
Long enough to really tell how it will do ?
Or do we need another 6 months ?
 
Yes his retarded religion is whack.. but no more then some of the crap stories in catholic or Baptist religion.. But facts are facts.. hes the smartest, and most successful candidate on the block (besides Hillary getting 9 holes in one her first time golfing) .. He should at least be herd.


Romney: Mass. health plan can be copied

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-08-24-romney-health-plan_N.htm

BOSTON (AP) — Former Gov. Mitt Romney says other states can replicate Massachusetts' program of universal health care if the federal government creates an environment in which private health insurance can expand.

In a speech being delivered Friday to the Florida Medical Association, the Republican presidential contender is to declare he wants the government to help states lower premiums by deregulating their insurance industries.

USA TODAY ON POLITICS: Read his 'vision for health care'

Romney says Washington also should make tax changes so all people can use pretax dollars to buy coverage — as workers do who get coverage through their employers.

And he says the Medicaid program for people with low incomes should be overhauled. The goal should be to provide states with block grants so they can create insurance programs — freed from federal mandates — that are tailored to their individual needs.
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In Massachusetts, a federal block grant was used to subsidize low-income insurance coverage, which, in turn, is being used to encourage residents to engage in more preventive and less emergency care. Similar grants were used nationally in 1996 so states had the freedom to restructure their welfare programs.

Romney's plan would help people buy private health insurance "in a way that builds on the experience in Massachusetts but doesn't force a one-size-fits-all approach on other states," said Sally Canfield, a Romney policy adviser who previewed the speech for reporters.

Health care has typically been an issue emphasized by Democratic candidates. The former Massachusetts governor has battled to claim it for the GOP by citing the 2006 measure he signed into law to help bring coverage to people who lack insurance.

On Thursday, Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton outlined her own vision for covering the 45 million nationally who lack insurance, although Romney has preferred to deride as "Hillarycare" the universal health program she tried unsuccessfully to implement in 1993 while serving as first lady.

The overarching principle in Romney's national plan stems from the line in the Hippocratic oath: "Do no harm." The candidate says Americans like their existing system of employer-provided coverage, and he believes it needs only modifications to expand to the uninsured.

One slide in the presentation he plans to deliver states: "No Europe-like rationing."

While the presentation highlights features of the Massachusetts plan, Romney also distances himself from the government bureaucracy it created and its requirement that all state residents get coverage by July 1. He says states will be free to craft the specifics of their own programs.

Social and fiscal conservatives such as those Romney is courting generally favor fiscal discipline, loathe government bureaucracy and oppose federal mandates.

"We're not saying every state has to have a mandate," said Canfield, the Romney policy adviser. "Their uninsured may be a different slice than it was in Massachusetts."
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Sounds better than Bush's plan.
 
How long has this healthcare plan that Mitt is touting been in place ?
Long enough to really tell how it will do ?
Or do we need another 6 months ?

Its still essentially theoretical just like hillarycare or any other scheme the dems have.
we should weight all options before we choose. Much of romneys plan is centered around #1 making sure those that can afford healthcare actually get it... then #2 providing a affordable state sponsored plan for thoes who qualify.


think of it like a car. (car being the American health care system). When something breaks on your car... you can fix that part or buy a new car. Its a choice. and you know what option costs more money.
 
Its still essentially theoretical just like hillarycare or any other scheme the dems have.
we should weight all options before we choose. Much of romneys plan is centered around #1 making sure those that can afford healthcare actually get it... then #2 providing a affordable state sponsored plan for thoes who qualify.


think of it like a car. (car being the American health care system). When something breaks on your car... you can fix that part or buy a new car. Its a choice. and you know what option costs more money.

yeah but if you buy a Yugo in the first place.....

I thought he was referring to a states plan that was already in place.
And my main point is never believe what any politician says while running for office, check his history.
Bush was against nation building and the USA being the police force for the world ....
 
I dont think Ill vote Romney, I dont like his new stance on Abortion or gay marriage... But I hope he is the Repug nominee, because I like some of his positions and I think he is 1000000 times better than anything to do with the Bush admin.

I hope he consideres Florida Governor Charlie Crist for VP.
 
yeah but if you buy a Yugo in the first place.....

I thought he was referring to a states plan that was already in place.
And my main point is never believe what any politician says while running for office, check his history.
Bush was against nation building and the USA being the police force for the world ....

hes talking about a national way to utilize a system similar to the MA plan.. not pushing that on everyone.. he clearly states that. I also like the idea of individual states right to figure out a plan. Perhaps a national government requiring that states have something. I have never been a fan of one size fits all national laws. People in Florida are far different from a demographics stand point then people in Massachusetts... hence they should have different health care structures.
 
hes talking about a national way to utilize a system similar to the MA plan.. not pushing that on everyone.. he clearly states that. I also like the idea of individual states right to figure out a plan. Perhaps a national government requiring that states have something. I have never been a fan of one size fits all national laws. People in Florida are far different from a demographics stand point then people in Massachusetts... hence they should have different health care structures.

That makes sense, except I think some minimum standard should be applied to all states. FL has more oldsters so It's specific requirements would be different from say TX which is just full of assholes ? More proctologists in TX.
 
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