Smells like a coup to me

Again..

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QP! said:
AI Summary:

The U.S. military teaches (or includes in its doctrine) that service members may have a duty to refuse “clearly illegal” orders. Here’s what the publicly available evidence shows.

What the Military Academies teach​


  1. Military Law / Training Materials
    • The Army’s The Army Lawyer (official JAG publication) has “Practice Notes” stating that if an order is “illegal” then service members may be required to refuse it. JAG Legal Center & School
    • This means there is recognition in legal-education materials of a duty to disobey illegal orders. JAG Legal Center & School
  2. Military Law Task Force (MLTF) Guidance
    • According to their 2025 FAQ, all service members “have the right, and in some cases have the duty, to refuse illegal orders.” Military Law Task Force
    • They note that under the UCMJ, an order is not binding if it's “illegal” (e.g. directing a crime). Military Law Task Force
  3. Legal / Constitutional Basis in Doctrine
    • According to a Just Security paper, U.S. military doctrine (and the Manual for Courts-Martial) reflects that duty: service members must refuse orders that are “unlawful.” Just Security
    • Loyola University-Chicago law scholars note that under the Law of War Manual and UCMJ, there is a recognized duty to refuse “illegal” orders. Law Scholars
  4. Surveys of Active-Duty Troops
    • A 2025 survey of U.S. troops (Military.com) found 80% of respondents understood that they have a duty to disobey illegal orders. Military.com+1
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T. A. Gardner said:
They implied that Trump is issuing illegal orders and that they--the troops--should question or disobey them.
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That is correct. They should not go against the military rules of conduct, nor break civilian laws for Trumpy.` They can be charged for their misconduct and Trump will lie like hell about it. He will desert them.
 
Nordberg said:
That is correct. They should not go against the military rules of conduct, nor break civilian laws for Trumpy.` They can be charged for their misconduct and Trump will lie like hell about it. He will desert them.
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Then there was ZERO need for those six Democrats to make the video they made.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I said, IMPLIED. You obviously don't know what that word means.
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Implied means it your guess of what you think they MEANT as opposed to being able to quote what they SAID, to then slight them with.

People use 'IMPLIED' when they cannot make their argument quoting the actual words.

For instance Terry if i say "Trump implied that Jan 6 protesters should attack the Capital and riot', do you accept my 'implied' interpretation or demand i quote the actual words to PROVE it?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Then there was ZERO need for those six Democrats to make the video they made.
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Because you see no need does not mean others do not.

This is again your arrogance and stupidity making you think 'what i think should determine what others say and do'.

Just as if DoJ officials feel they have to quit because they feel they are being given unlawful orders they took might feel the 'need' to repeat something already known in law to all those who remain in the DoJ, which is to remind them they need to follow the law and not act on unlawful orders.

Terry, sitting on the outside saying 'But i do not want them to say it nor think they need to' is a worthless statement as you are not them..
 
AProudLefty said:
Already named one. And it's irrelevant anyway as those Democrats never told them to disobey lawful orders.
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Once again, you prove you're an idiot.

You should probably quit while you're behind, words with more than one syllable are clearly beyond your grasp. You're drowning here, and it's painful to watch.

What good is AI to a moron like this? Just look at Lefty's posts for the answer: it takes an already muddled, low-wattage brain and supercharges the stupidity, turning halfwits into full-blown public hazards. You thought slapping some AI output in place of your usual moronic nonsense would finally let you punch above your weight. Wrong. It only amplifies the vacant echo where your own thoughts should be and broadcasts your intellectual bankruptcy in high def.

I will admit you are good for a good laugh from time to time, so there's that.
 
Tobytone said:
Once again, you prove you're an idiot.

You should probably quit while you're behind, words with more than one syllable are clearly beyond your grasp. You're drowning here, and it's painful to watch.

What good is AI to a moron like this? Just look at Lefty's posts for the answer: it takes an already muddled, low-wattage brain and supercharges the stupidity, turning halfwits into full-blown public hazards. You thought slapping some AI output in place of your usual moronic nonsense would finally let you punch above your weight. Wrong. It only amplifies the vacant echo where your own thoughts should be and broadcasts your intellectual bankruptcy in high def.

I will admit you are good for a good laugh from time to time, so there's that.
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Is that it? Insults?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
In the first case, which tribe(s) are you referring to? The only clear case of something like you imply is the Cherokee and the Trail of Tears.

In the second case, the Germans lost. If they'd have won their war that would be irrelevant because the winner isn't going to charge their own men for winning.

In the third, that's just idiotic. Persons in the US ILLEGALY can and should be arrested, tried, convicted, and removed per our immigration laws. Doesn't matter their gender or age. Or are you implying that you support those criminals staying in the US?
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Quiet, piggy.
 
martin said:
When the President has the mentality of a mobster advice of this kind is useful.
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Yup.

Trump, as POTUS, is regularly putting out their suggestions on things like 'protestors should be shot in the legs' or as he is currently that those who put out this video 'should be killed'.

When you see Trump's DoJ jump to indict Comey, in ways that are now exposed as clearly breaking the law, just because Trump rage tweeted to Pam and the DOJ 'time was running out and Comey must be indicted', and you see so many other acts such as bombing of boats in the Caribbean that may never be ruled upon during Trumps term but will likely be faced with challenges and maybe prosecutions when Trump is out, it only makes sense to remind everyone serving under Trump what they were taught in Military Academy, or law school, or Police Academy, which is you must not follow any illegal orders as "I was just following orders" will not protect you in court.
 
evince said:
Fuck you


TROOPS WILL DENY TRUMPS ORDERS TO KILL AMERICANS


you can’t win you fucking racist ass loser
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Perfect example of a complete radicalized drone with a room temperature IQ, a typical champion of the left. This poor bastard couldn’t logic his way out of a wet paper bag with a machete and a map.

Show me Trump’s orders to kill Americans, you drooling, Kool-Aid-chugging man-baby. Step away from mommy’s basement, put down the soy latte, and try cracking a book that wasn’t written by Rachel Maddow’s ghostwriter.

No worries, you’re not embarrassing yourself, you’re providing the rest of us with a live demonstration of what happens when participation trophies breed and are then neglected.

'TRUMPS ORDERS TO KILL AMERICAN' LMFAO WOW, I think I found a video of you explaining reality to us with the same level of intelligence. Let me know if this is you or your father.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1895429816855531996
View: https://x.com/LangmanVince/status/1895429816855531996?s=20
 
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