Smog In Western U.S. Starts Out As Pollution In Asia, Researchers Say

Mott the Hoople said:
Say what? Have you been playing "bobbing for French Fries" again?

Pollution and cleanliness are two completely different issues. I've seen plenty of Americans who live like pigs and I know plenty of Asians who are clean freaks to the point of it being a fetish.
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I have never been in a Thai or Vietnamese house, and I've been in many as you know, where there were anything other than impeccably clean. My missus is not too bad but some of her friends are practically OCD.

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Milagro said:
Sorry mate but huge amounts of polluting industries and processes have been exported to China. Rare earths and lithium processing are just two that spring to mind. That you don't want to believe that surprises me not one little bit.

You do seem to have this propensity to deny the undeniable, you need to do something about that!

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2014/01/21/u-s-exports-its-factories-and-pollution-to-china/

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It's utter nonsense Tom. The US is not responsible for China's lack of air pollution emissions control nor is it reasonable to assign blame to China's export markets for China's pollution. The technology and controls to reduce or eliminate those emissions are widely known and widely available. China is responsible for their air pollution by not implementing adequate control standards for air pollution.
 
Milagro said:
I have never been in a Thai or Vietnamese house, and I've been in many as you know, where there were anything other than impeccably clean. My missus is not too bad but some of her friends are practically OCD.

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my wife isn't OCD about cleanliness. She's closer to IWKY. I will kill you if you walk in here with your dirty shoes again.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
It's utter nonsense Tom. The US is not responsible for China's lack of air pollution emissions control nor is it reasonable to assign blame to China's export markets for China's pollution. The technology and controls to reduce or eliminate those emissions are widely known and widely available. China is responsible for their air pollution by not implementing adequate control standards for air pollution.
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Oh come on, how can you be so naive, why do you think jobs were exported in the first place? Lower wage costs, far lower environmental standards all add up to far more profits for US companies. Why do you even try to deny the blatantly obvious?

The only US producer of rare earths Molycorp has gone bankrupt because prices have crashed. They just couldn't compete with China as they were subject to far higher environmental standards.

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Milagro said:
Oh come on, how can you be so naive, why do you think jobs were exported in the first place? Lower wage costs, far lower environmental standards all add up to far more profits for US companies. Why do you even try to deny the blatantly obvious?

The only US producer of rare earths Molycorp has gone bankrupt because prices have crashed. They just couldn't compete with China as they were subject to far higher environmental standards.

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What does this have to do with China's government not requiring sufficient pollution control technologies be used by Industry?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
What does this have to do with China's government not requiring sufficient pollution control technologies be used by Industry?
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If you can't see a link between the off-shoring of jobs and businesses to China because of far lower costs then I really don't know what to say to you?? I seriously cannot believe that you are unaware that many US companies are cleaner now because they export their dirty processes to China and India.

"Toxic emissions from manufacturing plants in the United States have dropped as the production of more pollution-intensive goods shifted to low-wage countries, says a University of Michigan researcher.

"We found that domestic plants pollute less on American soil as their parent firm imports more from low-wage countries. They also shift production to less pollution-intensive industries, produce less waste and spend less on pollution abatement," said Yue Maggie Zhou, assistant professor of strategy at U-M's Ross School of Business.

Zhou and co-author Xiaoyang Li of Shanghai Jiaotong University found that when a U.S. plant's owner increases imports from low-wage countries by 10 percent, the plant's toxic emissions at home fall 4 to 6 percent."

https://m.phys.org/news/2017-03-cleaner-overseas-suppliers-dirty.html
 
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