So did the stimilus ruin the recovery?

Topspin said:
I never said I was for the stimulus. Any tea bagger crying about debt that was deft dumb and blind to it under bush gets labeled a racist here.
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I have big issues with my Republican friends who decry Obama but who were silent under Bush when he did every unconstitutional and every big spending project imaginable...

There might be some of that with the "Sara Palin" crowd of the Tea Party.. But i dont think youll find too many in the Ron Paul camp like that.
 
Mike Mitrosky said:
No, its not *I* who has bought any shell game my friend.

Im down with lawful money backed by gold or silver.
That is the original "balanced budget amendment" that all the politicians pretend to want.. But they get rid of the one thing which would ensure no crazy deficits.

Everything else is bullshit.
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And do you realise we left the gold standard because gold was being manipulated to harm the US economy?

It is an idiots dream that was trumped up to make you take your eye off the real ball.

They dont want yuou voting for anyone who can really get elected and regulate their asses.

The real elite you should be worried about is the fuckers with the mega bucks who will do anything to control your stupid ass including making fucking stupid videos like this to make you think you KNOW something secret and are soooooo much smarter than all other Americans you are willing to toss your vote into the trash by pissing all over the only real power you have.

The power to join with other LITTLE guys and to use the laws of our nation to Cripple their fucking power by REGULATING their asses into submission.

That is the power of the people that our founders gave us.

They wanted the PEOPLE to have the power to control the assholes who would control us with massive wealth. It used to be Kings and now its Kings of industry.

Quit buying the crap they create to confuse you fool.
 
Topspin said:
not another gold standard moron, Jesus asshat is going to have beard burns on his back like southernman.
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Id compromise on that toppy...

Id be okay with paper money that the United States issued themselves..

like this one right here:

USTreasury_5dollars.jpg
 
evince said:
And do you realise we left the gold standard because gold was being manipulated to harm the US economy?

It is an idiots dream that was trumped up to make you take your eye off the real ball.

They dont want yuou voting for anyone who can really get elected and regulate their asses.

The real elite you should be worried about is the fuckers with the mega bucks who will do anything to control your stupid ass including making fucking stupid videos like this to make you think you KNOW something secret and are soooooo much smarter than all other Americans you are willing to toss your vote into the trash by pissing all over the only real power you have.

The power to join with other LITTLE guys and to use the laws of our nation to Cripple their fucking power by REGULATING their asses into submission.

That is the power of the people that our founders gave us.

They wanted the PEOPLE to have the power to control the assholes who would control us with massive wealth. It used to be Kings and now its Kings of industry.

Quit buying the crap they create to confuse you fool.
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I try to be pretty tolerant and open minded. So Id like to see the information youre talking about.

I dont disagree that certain classes of people will try to dominate other parts of society.. That happens now with the bankers who own the federal reserve.

show me what you got and we can discuss
 
Jarod said:
I love when posters use ":palm:" in the place of an argument.

To me it simply says... I have no intelegent response to you so Ill just put an icon here!
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Actually Jarod... It's just a more polite way to say:

"What a freepin' Doofus!"

An official argument would be two sides with opposing views duking it out.

There is no opposition to you being a Doofus.
 
Mike Mitrosky said:
I try to be pretty tolerant and open minded. So Id like to see the information youre talking about.

I dont disagree that certain classes of people will try to dominate other parts of society.. That happens now with the bankers who own the federal reserve.

show me what you got and we can discuss
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Why dies the right hate unions?

Why do they tell you that these entities are horrilbe things that need to be distroyed?

Because their power lies within the people.

Why do they tell you liberal ideas are bad?

Because they want to empower the people to control the wealthy with regulations and taxes.

If you really want to see the people win you have to support liberal candidates and not let assholes convince you that they are the same as the republican party that has done nothing but empower the elites with deregulation and tax cuts for decades.
 
evince said:
Why dies the right hate unions?

Why do they tell you that these entities are horrilbe things that need to be distroyed?

Because their power lies within the people.

Why do they tell you liberal ideas are bad?

Because they want to empower the people to control the wealthy with regulations and taxes.

If you really want to see the people win you have to support liberal candidates and not let assholes convince you that they are the same as the republican party that has done nothing but empower the elites with deregulation and tax cuts for decades.
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This is fun only because Desh sees things in pure black & white.

Jimmy Carter Deregulation -

Airline Deregulation Act - 1978
deregulated trucking
deregulated domestic gas prices

Bill Clinton -

1999 Deregulation Act which included removing parts of Glass-Steagal

George W. Bush

Sarbenes-Oxley - new regulations bill


Here's Bill Clinton saying that deregulation did not cause the financial meltdown and that the Republicans did not force him to sign the '99 bill as Desh likes to claim they did


http://moneynews.com/StreetTalk/deregulation/2008/10/01/id/325666
 
evince said:
Why dies the right hate unions?

Why do they tell you that these entities are horrilbe things that need to be distroyed?

Because their power lies within the people.

Why do they tell you liberal ideas are bad?

Because they want to empower the people to control the wealthy with regulations and taxes.

If you really want to see the people win you have to support liberal candidates and not let assholes convince you that they are the same as the republican party that has done nothing but empower the elites with deregulation and tax cuts for decades.
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Well I think we can solve this problem from people educating themselves in the classical sense.

As Franklin said, "Tyranny begins in ignorance." and so it is today.

We need to turn off the Television and do that old fashioned thing called reading..

We've got a nation of XBOX players and idiot box viewers.
 
cawacko said:
This is fun only because Desh sees things in pure black & white.

Jimmy Carter Deregulation -

Airline Deregulation Act - 1978
deregulated trucking
deregulated domestic gas prices

Bill Clinton -

1999 Deregulation Act which included removing parts of Glass-Steagal

George W. Bush

Sarbenes-Oxley - new regulations bill


Here's Bill Clinton saying that deregulation did not cause the financial meltdown and that the Republicans did not force him to sign the '99 bill as Desh likes to claim they did


http://moneynews.com/StreetTalk/deregulation/2008/10/01/id/325666
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Deregulation is by far a republican cause.

You know it andevery sane person knows it.

To pretend it is not is just fucking stupid
 
Mike Mitrosky said:
Well I think we can solve this problem from people educating themselves in the classical sense.

As Franklin said, "Tyranny begins in ignorance." and so it is today.

We need to turn off the Television and do that old fashioned thing called reading..

We've got a nation of XBOX players and idiot box viewers.
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WRONG!

Listen to everything you can as well as search the internet and read everything you can.

Limmiting your sources is complete stupidity
 
evince said:
Deregulation is by far a republican cause.

You know it andevery sane person knows it.

To pretend it is not is just fucking stupid
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LOL... I'm not pretending anything. Do you deny the facts that I posted? Aren't you the one who continuously says people need to pay attention to facts? I know these facts don't fit into the little world view you created for yourself regarding Democrats but here they are right in front of your face.

As Mariah Carey sang about Eminem on this you are delusional.
 
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