So Russia should keep its ill gotten gains?
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Callinectes
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
All of this happened on the convicted melon's watch, did he even HAVE an end game plan? This is symptomatic of the jackass approach to politics: create a new existential crisis or approach an existing real one with fear and trembling.
In either example, there is never a solution with the possible exception of throwing money at it. This is how you lost the election! Too many damn "problems" and no solutions!
And Europe will never allow Ukraine to join NATO, at least not until pooty poot suffers a 9mm brain aneurism that puts him on the same cognitive level as the tater head.
What would you do?
In either example, there is never a solution with the possible exception of throwing money at it. This is how you lost the election! Too many damn "problems" and no solutions!
And Europe will never allow Ukraine to join NATO, at least not until pooty poot suffers a 9mm brain aneurism that puts him on the same cognitive level as the tater head.
What would you do?
Yakuda
Verified User
Why not? All the filthy bastards that got pre-emptive pardons will get to keep theirs
NO, the capitulation is happening now.
BartenderElite
Verified User
Trump cares about one thing only: credit for himself.
He just wants the "Trump ended the Ukraine War" narrative. That's it. He will sell out the Ukrainians and everything they have fought years for to get that.
He just wants the "Trump ended the Ukraine War" narrative. That's it. He will sell out the Ukrainians and everything they have fought years for to get that.
Callinectes
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
What capitulation! This is not our fight! And STILL, you don't offer any solutions! Oh! I think I understand! You want to WIN? What's that look like? Boots on the ground? Stealth bombers? A few tactical nukes? If you don't have anything constructive to contribute, sit down and shut up.
countryboy
Verified User
Lol, I knew liberals would whine and snivel about ending the war. And here they are.
I am not happy about giving Russia a reward for their aggression against an ally of ours.
Appeasement is not a good strategy, see WWII for an example.
Allowing Russia to gain land is capitulation. They attacked our ally, and now we are giving them land for it.
Does Ukraine get to keep the land they took?
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
Ukraine has to eat the shit sandwich Biden handed them.
So you only see it in terms of American politics, and you want to make what you consider Biden's war worse than it is? I understand.
Callinectes
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
You remember that little skirmish over in Afghanistan and Iraq? You know, the one that lasted for 20 years? It was in all the papers.
Well, I was pissed when Trump started his withdrawal. I finally got on board when I admitted to myself that I was motivated by a desire for revenge (for 9/11) and had a disregard for the American and allied blood that had been spilled there. Then along comes the convicted melon, who decides the process isn't moving fast enough, so he moves the operation out of secured Bagram AB (which under Trump's plan, we were supposed to retain control of) to Kharazi International, where the last 13 Americans were killed alongside many locals who worked with us.
AND he left behind almost 8 BILLION bucks worth of equipment.
You don't care about "capitulation", you want revenge on the guy who you think keeps interfering with our elections. Get over it.
Putin will fuck it up. All that's needed is to wait for it. The mess started with Obama; it was only compounded under Biden's incompetent 'leadership'. The isolationist morons will just cause encourage more invasions and wars, as always, more costly than dealing with them early and decisively. That has been the case the entire 20th Century and the pattern continues in this century as well.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
In the sense that Europe, NATO, and the US were involved in the politics prior to this war starting, yes. Biden's response to Russian moves was indecisive, in Russian eyes, irrelevant, and generally fucked up. But that's Biden. He's been wrong on foreign policy almost 100% of the time for nearly half-a-century. So, yes, this war in good part is Biden's fault for being the retard he always has been.
Europe on the other hand, showed nothing but weakness. There was no resolve and every desire for the problem to just go away. That's nothing new for Europe. Putin read their weakness, and Biden's indecisiveness and lack of commitment as a green light to invade Ukraine.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
It wasn't "unprovoked."
We the People don't really care; We the People are too busy putting America first. Perhaps you would like to explain why We the People should get in the middle of another endless war that doesn't involve the US.
You simply haven't explained why any of We the People should care.
Ukraine is not prohibited from joining NATO, however any NATO country can pull a Greece and vote "Όχι!"