So we have a US born American citizen being held without trial

So where is the 'without a trial' part?

Some anchor baby got a birth certificate, but lived somewhere else and speaks a Mayan dialect a s first language came back over the border and got arrested. lol big deal, eh? That whole 'born here' crap is going to get rolled back to reflect the Amendment's original intent, so you will just have to keep sniveling like hysterical halfwits. Your 'sanctuary cities' are even crying and whining about having them shipped there, lol.

There are bout 10 DEmocrat voters for every illegal alien, so start stepping up and sponsoring them already if you think they''re so grand. Why is it none are doing so????
 
The right of habeas corpus is not a right to be released, but rather a right to argue that you should be released. There were some accused terrorists who were able to argue they should be released, but many who were not able to.

There were no "terrorists" on Jan 6. Yet, many were held without bail or a hearing. As for the current bunch. If they are designated members of a terrorist organization by legal standards, then they have nothing coming under the Foreign Enemies Act Trump is using. They can appeal from whatever country they are deported to.
This US citizen is being told that even though he can prove he is a US citizen, he does not have the right to prove it, because he is an illegal alien... Even though he is not an illegal alien.
No, this is an illegal alien that was granted parole by Biden illegally. Parole is a case-by-case legal option that a foreigner can take to be admitted to the US. Biden granted, illegally, blanket parole to hundreds of thousands of foreigners without any review as required. Trump ended that, and then told those granted that illegal parole they were no longer eligible and to get the hell out of the US or face legal action for remaining illegally in the US.

It appears in the case of this particular individual there is a question about his citizenship. He may have a US birth certificate, but if he was living in Mexico and was an adult (18 or over) and had a matricula consular card then he was also a Mexican citizen. The article doesn't make that clear. In Mexico, without such a card, you are very restricted as to what you can and cannot do, far more than in the US. So, the question is, did he claim Mexican citizenship while living in Mexico?

This is an important question and one the article doesn't address.
 
Yet, many were held without bail or a hearing.
Some were held without bail, but not without a hearing. They were arraigned like any other criminal. Getting a hearing does not automatically mean you will get bail.

No, this is an illegal alien that was granted parole by Biden illegally.
One more time, he was born in the USA. He has a birth certificate to prove it. He does not need parole from anyone. He is not an alien of any sort. He is a US citizen, as much as trump is.

Parole is a case-by-case legal option that a foreigner
Not a foreigner. Life long US citizen. US citizen from birth. Does not need parole.

Trump ended that
trump ended citizenship? Did he do it for himself too?

He may have a US birth certificate, but if he was living in Mexico and was an adult (18 or over) and had a matricula consular card then he was also a Mexican citizen.
Mexico does not recognize dual citizenship, so he would be a resident of Mexico, and a citizen of the USA. So I guess Mexico could deport him, but trump is not supposed to be able to.

In Mexico, without such a card, you are very restricted as to what you can and cannot do, far more than in the US.
Wow, you have really lost it.
 
A US born American citizen cannot get out of prison, even though he is found to be a US citizen, because illegal aliens have no rights, even though they are not illegal aliens... That is the system not working.

If he had been released, that would be the legal system working in the end. What is happening now is that he has no access to the legal system, because he is being held as an illegal alien, so he is not allowed to prove he is not an illegal alien.
ACLU

WASHINGTON – President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law today. The statute contains a sweeping worldwide indefinite detention provision. While President Obama issued a signing statement saying he had “serious reservations” about the provisions, the statement only applies to how his administration would use the authorities granted by the NDAA, and would not affect how the law is interpreted by subsequent administrations. The White House had threatened to veto an earlier version of the NDAA, but reversed course shortly before Congress voted on the final bill.
 
ACLU

WASHINGTON – President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law today. The statute contains a sweeping worldwide indefinite detention provision. While President Obama issued a signing statement saying he had “serious reservations” about the provisions, the statement only applies to how his administration would use the authorities granted by the NDAA, and would not affect how the law is interpreted by subsequent administrations. The White House had threatened to veto an earlier version of the NDAA, but reversed course shortly before Congress voted on the final bill.
The guy is out......Hello. He was only in for 24 hrs.
 
Some were held without bail, but not without a hearing. They were arraigned like any other criminal. Getting a hearing does not automatically mean you will get bail.

Some were arrested, jailed without bail, and not even indicted, like Lucas Denney of Texas. He was arrested in Texas and charged with several felonies. He was then transferred to the DC jail system where he sat for months without an indictment (required by federal procedure within 30 days of arrest), never given a preliminary hearing, and sat in jail for over a year in that status.
One more time, he was born in the USA. He has a birth certificate to prove it. He does not need parole from anyone. He is not an alien of any sort. He is a US citizen, as much as trump is.

One more time. Just because you were born here doesn't necessarily make you a citizen if you lived out of the country the whole time you grew up and then claimed citizenship in a foreign nation. The article says he did the former. Did he also do the latter? Like I pointed out, Mexico's laws on citizenship are far more restrictive than US ones and if you were living there, you might think it to your benefit to claim Mexican citizenship.
Not a foreigner. Life long US citizen. US citizen from birth. Does not need parole.

That may or may not be true. The article isn't clear on this.
trump ended citizenship? Did he do it for himself too?

Trump ended Biden's blanket parole for hundreds of thousands of foreigners he was letting in the US unvetted.
Mexico does not recognize dual citizenship, so he would be a resident of Mexico, and a citizen of the USA. So I guess Mexico could deport him, but trump is not supposed to be able to.

Or, if he claimed Mexican citizenship--and the article doesn't state if he did--then he isn't a citizen of the US. After all, it does state he spent most of his life in Mexico.
Wow, you have really lost it.
No, you have a serious reading comprehension problem.
 
Mexico does not recognize dual citizenship

Unless there's a difference between Mexico allowing dual citizenship and recognizing it, it has recognized dual citizenship since 1998:
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Is dual nationality allowed in Mexico?

Since 1998, the Mexican Nationality Law allows Mexicans to have another nationality in addition to their Mexican one.

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Source:
 
One more time. Just because you were born here doesn't necessarily make you a citizen if you lived out of the country the whole time you grew up and then claimed citizenship in a foreign nation.

No, you're wrong:
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Birthright citizenship is explicitly guaranteed to anyone born under the legal "jurisdiction" of the U.S. federal government by the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (adopted July 9, 1868), which states:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
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Source:

I suspect what you're actually getting at is Trump's opposition to this law. From the same article as above:
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Upon taking office in 2025, President Trump issued an executive order asserting that the federal government would not recognize jus soli birthright citizenship for the children of non-citizens. The executive order has been challenged in court, and a federal judge issued a temporary restraining order blocking its implementation, calling it "blatantly unconstitutional."
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Also from the same article, a poll showed that most Americans oppose changes to the birthright citizenship law:
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According to a January 2025 Associated Press poll, a majority (51%) of Americans oppose changes to the birthright citizenship in the United States, while 28% are in favor of Trump's Day 1 action and 20% are undecided.
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Unless there's a difference between Mexico allowing dual citizenship and recognizing it, it has recognized dual citizenship since 1998:
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Is dual nationality allowed in Mexico?

Since 1998, the Mexican Nationality Law allows Mexicans to have another nationality in addition to their Mexican one.

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Source:
Indeed.

Never Right Walter is wrong again.
 
I still like to believe we can resuscitate it, but maybe I am just an optimist. We had it good, and then we got trump's retribution.
He was elected in a fair and honest election, Never Right Walter.

And you can not do anything about it since Democrats say our elections are honest...no cheating.
 
no it isn't.
More Christian Nation SCOTUS Rehnquist Bicentennial Fourth Reich July thieving US Constitution Bill of Rights arsonists not so master race of Christiananality pedophilia human reproduction medical pseudoscience more perfect union with Islamidiotocracy flaming flying chariot pseudoscience……
 
Wait! Is this a trick question about Jan 6?
Why do you think violent domestic terrorists held in prison on charges and awaiting trial is comparable to an American citizen being held without charges simply because he is brown, Terry?

When did you become a racist, son? Was it during your service in the Navy or after?
 
There were no "terrorists" on Jan 6. Yet, many were held without bail or a hearing. As for the current bunch.
Once again with the lies. Give us the name of the person held without bail or a hearing. Give us just one name of someone held for Jan 6 actions that never got a hearing. It seems you are so delusional you believe in things that don't exist.

So give us the name. Or admit you are delusional. It's your choice. One or the other. Or do what you always do. Disappear for a while before you come back and make the same unsubstantiated bull shit claims.
If they are designated members of a terrorist organization by legal standards, then they have nothing coming under the Foreign Enemies Act Trump is using. They can appeal from whatever country they are deported to.
If they are accused of being members of a terrorist organization under US law they have the right to due process.
 
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