So what exactly has changed for the black man in the new South Africa?

Borboletta said:
Fuck off you arrogant twat

That article was from CNN, last time I checked they had no affiliations with the Klan. Yes apartheid was an abhorrent system but what's replaced it is seemingly an economic apartheid instead.
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Bullshit your post wrecks of anti black
 
The Dude said:
Bullshit your post wrecks of anti black
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I never considered Tommy TuTu racist before.

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Why should a white minority control a nation that the whites invaded and forged by force from historical tribal territories?
 
Legion Troll said:
Why should a white minority control a nation that the whites invaded and forged by force from historical tribal territories?
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Because whites turned SA into an advanced hi-tech country. They built it and they should own it.

This is the history of africa during the last 50 years. Africans take over a country and it collapses.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
Because whites turned SA into an advanced hi-tech country. They built it and they should own it. This is the history of africa during the last 50 years. Africans take over a country and it collapses.
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SA's biggest asset is and always has been mining. The mineral wealth in the region is what attracted the rapacious white colonialists in the first place.

Post-apartheid, the majority get to run their country as they see fit.

If you don't agree, that's tough. Maybe you can get a slightly-used jacket from this guy to show your true colors:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_South_Africa
 
The Dude said:
Bullshit your post wrecks of anti black
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I didn't write that article!! I do find it amazing the lengths people will go to to avoid being called racist. The plight of the poor urban black is only marginally improved since the bad old days of the Brederbond and the vortrekker.
 
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Legion Troll said:
I never considered Tommy TuTu racist before.

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Why should a white minority control a nation that the whites invaded and forged by force from historical tribal territories?
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Can you show me where I stated any of that? I pose a simple question about what has changed and the usual suspects turn it into a rant about racism. It is precisely that blinkered attitude that allowed the world to sit back and watch the Hutu butcher the Tutsi in Rwanda.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
SA has massive affirmative action. If blacks were qualified to be engineers and businessmen, they could get the jobs on merit and there would be no need for all this AA.
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Blacks were denied most opportunities for advancement in the old South Africa. I have an extremely good friend that worked as a mining engineer in the gold mines back then. He could give you chapter and verse on the inequities of those days. What appears to have happened is a new elite has taken over in the form of the ANC which has such a massive majority that it will always win no matter what. Archbishop Tutu some years back decried the fact that MPs voted themselves a massive pay rise and was accused of being racist, he gently asked them to look at his skin colour!!
 
Borboletta said:
Can you show me where I stated any of that? I pose a simple question about what has changed and the usual suspects turn it into a rant about racism. It is precisely that blinkered attitude that allowed the world to sit back and watch the Hutu butcher the Tutsi in Rwanda.
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Would you like to see apartheid return to South Africa?
Now call me some profane names without answering .
 
Leonthecat said:
Would you like to see apartheid return to South Africa?
Now call me some profane names without answering .
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I will accord you the same respect that you bestow on others. I have never ever said anything close to that, I want a fully functioning multi party democracy. The ANC under Zuma, who' s never been to school and has been an apparatchik since he was 16 has driven the South African economy into the ground. If you weren't so angst ridden and PC you'd know that but sloganising is your metier first and foremost.
 
Borboletta said:
I will accord you the same respect that you bestow on others. I have never ever said anything close to that, I want a fully functioning multi party democracy. The ANC under Zuma, who' s never been to school and has been an apparatchik since he was 16 has driven the South African economy into the ground. If you weren't so angst ridden and PC you'd know that but sloganising is your metier first and foremost.
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A simple no would have been adequate the first time I asked. Do you think native South Africans would be happier if apartheid had remained in place?
PoorBorbo
 
Borboletta;1560837." said:
What appears to have happened is a new elite has taken over in the form of the ANC which has such a massive majority that it will always win no matter what.
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Appears??? There is no question about it. The ANC is not just political party, it is the whole government. And they are destroying the country with all the massive affirmative action they mandate.
 
Borboletta said:
The ANC under Zuma, who' s never been to school and has been an apparatchik since he was 16 has driven the South African economy into the ground.
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He's barely literate and is a white-hating racist and, as always, the country needs white people to actually run things. SA has gone down the tubes ever since white rule ended.
 
Leonthecat said:
A simple no would have been adequate the first time I asked. Do you think native South Africans would be happier if apartheid had remained in place?
PoorBorbo
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As I've already said treat others with respect and that will be reciprocated, carry on with your juvenile reductionist crap and you will not. If you are too stupid to work out my intent by now then I fail to see what's the point is in explaining further. One thing I will say though, racism is not exclusive to white people, there is plenty of black racism. I think Rwanda ought to tell you that is the case.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
He's barely literate and is a white-hating racist and, as always, the country needs white people to actually run things. SA has gone down the tubes ever since white rule ended.
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Seemingly so but to point out the obvious seems to be considered racist by the trolls. One day the US will grow up and have an adult discussion about race. It has already started to happen over here now that bastard Blair has fucked off!!
 
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