Social Conservatism = nanny state!

Southern Man said:
Provide citations of actual statements that Conservatives have made where they wish to limit your freedoms.
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SM, you have argued in favor of banning smoking in privately owned businesses.

You have argued in favor of gun control.

You have argued in favor of placing limits on specific religions.

And you have argued in favor of laws based on sexual orientation.




Yet you call yourself a conservative. In fact, you have called yourself THE conservative.
 
Jarod said:
Seriously is having a national religen not nannyism?
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What's a national religen? Seriously, I don't mean the mis-spelling, I mean, WTF is a national religion in America? Football? Baseball? Reality TV? Cosmetics? Carbohydrates?

Jarod said:
Is legislating who people can marry not nannyism?
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No.

Jarod said:
Is telling women what medical procedures they can have done to there bodies not nannyism?
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Keeping people from dying is not nannyism, its one of the few actions of government that everyone will tend to agree about. You seem to be advocating for anarchy, or else doing what the more dishonest leftists on this site do, which is claim that anything short of Marxism is anarchic (Moot the Hopple on libertarianism, for example).

Jarod said:
Is promoting traditional values not nannyism?
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No, itz tha fuckin' krakpype, Garud!! Druhgs Rool tha Nashun!!!!

Jarod said:
Is limiting what books your children can read not nannyism?
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Aren't all laws directed at minors nannyism?

Jarod said:
Is deciding where religous institutions can build because others might be offended not nannyism?
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No, its just unconstitutional.
 
Crashk said:
Why are liberals against personal accounts for social security?
Because conservatives want to create a middleman position for themselves and skim their profits. You can save all you want in personal accounts. I'm for raising the cap on SS.


Why do liberals want a government administered health care system instead letting individuals choose in the free market?
Because the 'freemarket' has priced them out.

Why are liberals for higher taxes on individuals?
Because tax cuts for the rich during recessions and wars is just a money grab. It's time for them to pay their share.
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1. In private retirement accounts, you can choose who manages your money or do so yourself. Only the government can "manage" your social security funds, and if you die young, they take what's left. Which plan has more freedom?

2. We don't have a free market with hospitals in the US, due to the huge influence of government dollars in Medicare and Medicaid. They control how many hospital beds can be built in all regions of the country. An actual free market would drive prices down. Which side promotes more freedom?

3. Conservatives are for the Flat Tax or Fair Tax systems, which would eliminate "tax cuts for the rich", and everyone would have to pay their "fair share". Why are Liberals against this?
 
In all of recorded history armed rabble have never stood up to trained troops. excluding guerrilla warfare of course.

The way I see it is, the corporations that direct our govt is the enemy not the govt itself. I believe we have the best 'form' of govt ever invented, the problem is it has been corrupted by money and greed by corporate interests. We are now acting for the benefit of multinational corporations which bring nothing back to the U.S. thus driving down our economy and standard of living. In turn making people want to mount .30cals on their jeeps.

Uppem! .30cal!
 
Crashk said:
In all of recorded history armed rabble have never stood up to trained troops. excluding guerrilla warfare of course.
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some people must enjoy getting smacked around with the truth about this.

Why did the russians leave afghanistan?
who won the vietnam war?
How did the french revolution happen?
who won the war between england and the colonies?
whats going on in iraq today?

care to revise your bullshit statement?

Crashk said:
The way I see it is, the corporations that direct our govt is the enemy not the govt itself. I believe we have the best 'form' of govt ever invented, the problem is it has been corrupted by money and greed by corporate interests. We are now acting for the benefit of multinational corporations which bring nothing back to the U.S. thus driving down our economy and standard of living. In turn making people want to mount .30cals on their jeeps.
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how is the government not our enemy when they are allowing themselves to be bought by corporate interests?
 
Crashk said:
In all of recorded history armed rabble have never stood up to trained troops. excluding guerrilla warfare of course.

The way I see it is, the corporations that direct our govt is the enemy not the govt itself. I believe we have the best 'form' of govt ever invented, the problem is it has been corrupted by money and greed by corporate interests. We are now acting for the benefit of multinational corporations which bring nothing back to the U.S. thus driving down our economy and standard of living. In turn making people want to mount .30cals on their jeeps.

Uppem! .30cal!
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Yes, please do go and find yourself some industrialists to gun down.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Took all of ten minutes. :)
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Its an easy prediction. You say something stupid, and I show up to pop you for it.

I see that you are not denying the actual comment, just that I would bust you on it.

But it wasn't just gay marriage. You have also argued that gays shouldn't be allowed in the military or teach school.

And have argued several times in favor of banning smoking in privately owned businesses.

And your arguments in favor of gun control is quite recent.




Are you a conservative or not?
 
When a woman is facing a late term decision between her life and the life of her unborn, the Republicans belive they should step in and nanny that decision for her!
 
Threedee said:
If I wind up going back to college again after I finish up this Fall, I'm really considering law school, as its clearly a lot easier than its cracked up to be.
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Its not hard, if you have an interest and can grasp large concepts Id recomend it.

If you are expecting to be graded on your spelling ability you will be met with a suprise!
 
Jarod said:
When a woman is facing a late term decision between her life and the life of her unborn, the Republicans belive they should step in and nanny that decision for her!
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She made that decision when she dropped her pants 8 months prior. Conservative simply insist that she face up to the consequences of her decision. :pke:
 
Damn Yankee said:
She made that decision when she dropped her pants 8 months prior. Conservative simply insist that she face up to the consequences of her decision. :pke:
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SO you believe its the governments place to tell a woman she has to choose certian death over aborting her late term fetus?
 
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