Some comparison as to why the order to kill survivors was a war crime

Really Dicky? Put up or shut up, you're knee-deep in bullshit again. I've heard Trump say he's cool with whatever Hegseth decides. That what you're peddling this time? Because as @T. A. Gardner laid out spot-on, military chains ain't a solo act, it's all CinC direction down the line.

He's wrong? This your golden shot to finally nail one right. Would be a miracle, first I've witnessed. Cough up the verbatim Trump quote where he says Hegseth dropped the order without my sign-off. Hey, skip the part about Trump's sign-off and just show us all a quote with Trump uttering the words, 'Hegseth gave the orders' and I call that your first win.

Of course, Dicky's half-right if we dive into the weeds. Trump has absolutely uttered 'Hegseth' and 'the' and 'gave' and 'order' somewhere along the way, so yeah, technically he's said Hegseth gave the order, lmao. That's libtard honesty, where stringing random words counts as a gotcha. I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly where Dicky gets the idea it was said, lol. Poor Dicky
Wow. How deep in the cult do you have to be think the Trump administration consists only of Trump?
 
Wow. How deep in the cult do you have to be think the Trump administration consists only of Trump?
I say 'Trump' just to keep it simple for you smooth-brained drones. Cough up the quote you've been screeching about, any quote, from anyone. I'm still waiting, tick-tock.

TA already spoon-fed you how military orders and chain of command work like you're five years old. He was way too nice about it. Did you thank him? Of course not. You doubled down like the obedient little drone you are.

So seriously, what's the actual problem with turning a boat full of terrorists into red mist in the middle of the Caribbean? I'm asking sincerely.

You cool with droning Toyota pickups full of jihadis racing through villages, but a boat is suddenly off-limits?
Safer than the Obama-era wedding-barbecue specials in Yemen, but now it's a war crime? Thousands of Hellfires on 'military-age males' plus a few hundred 'oops' civilians was fine for eight years, but this one crosses the line?

And hey, remember when we droned an American citizen who was actively recruiting and plotting attacks? Was that murder too, or does the 'no due process' rule only kick in when the president has an R next to his name?

If this rage is real, here's your shot at credibility: call for Obama's head on a spike. Public trial, war crimes, murder, the whole circus. At least then you can claim the media hid his 542 drone strikes from you and you're just now 'finding out.' Otherwise, shut up, sit down, and read a real history book instead of whatever blue-check cope you're mainlining today.
 
I say 'Trump' just to keep it simple for you smooth-brained drones. Cough up the quote you've been screeching about, any quote, from anyone. I'm still waiting, tick-tock.

TA already spoon-fed you how military orders and chain of command work like you're five years old. He was way too nice about it. Did you thank him? Of course not. You doubled down like the obedient little drone you are.

So seriously, what's the actual problem with turning a boat full of terrorists into red mist in the middle of the Caribbean? I'm asking sincerely.

You cool with droning Toyota pickups full of jihadis racing through villages, but a boat is suddenly off-limits?
Safer than the Obama-era wedding-barbecue specials in Yemen, but now it's a war crime? Thousands of Hellfires on 'military-age males' plus a few hundred 'oops' civilians was fine for eight years, but this one crosses the line?

And hey, remember when we droned an American citizen who was actively recruiting and plotting attacks? Was that murder too, or does the 'no due process' rule only kick in when the president has an R next to his name?

If this rage is real, here's your shot at credibility: call for Obama's head on a spike. Public trial, war crimes, murder, the whole circus. At least then you can claim the media hid his 542 drone strikes from you and you're just now 'finding out.' Otherwise, shut up, sit down, and read a real history book instead of whatever blue-check cope you're mainlining today.
I see you decided to double down on your cult fantasies.

Did the Trump administration lie when they said that Hegseth authorized the strikes?
At the White House on Monday, Karoline Leavitt, the press secretary, read a statement that said Mr. Hegseth had authorized the Special Operations commander overseeing the attack, Adm. Frank M. Bradley, “to conduct these kinetic strikes.”

When it comes to drone attacks on jihadists, can you explain to me how they could have instead interdicted them which is possible to do with a boat on the high seas. Standard practice was if the people could not be interdicted then a drone strike was OK. Then you also seem to ignore what an actual terrorist is. It seems being in a cult has made you unable to understand reality. Trump also authorized drone strikes including killing Iranian Soliemani. Congress authorized action against jihadists during the Bush administration. Drug traffickers are not terrorists. If they are terrorists then why is Trump pardoning terrorists when he pardoned drug traffickers?
 
I see you decided to double down on your cult fantasies.

Did the Trump administration lie when they said that Hegseth authorized the strikes?
At the White House on Monday, Karoline Leavitt, the press secretary, read a statement that said Mr. Hegseth had authorized the Special Operations commander overseeing the attack, Adm. Frank M. Bradley, “to conduct these kinetic strikes.”

When it comes to drone attacks on jihadists, can you explain to me how they could have instead interdicted them which is possible to do with a boat on the high seas. Standard practice was if the people could not be interdicted then a drone strike was OK. Then you also seem to ignore what an actual terrorist is. It seems being in a cult has made you unable to understand reality. Trump also authorized drone strikes including killing Iranian Soliemani. Congress authorized action against jihadists during the Bush administration. Drug traffickers are not terrorists. If they are terrorists then why is Trump pardoning terrorists when he pardoned drug traffickers?
 
I see you decided to double down on your cult fantasies.

Did the Trump administration lie when they said that Hegseth authorized the strikes?
At the White House on Monday, Karoline Leavitt, the press secretary, read a statement that said Mr. Hegseth had authorized the Special Operations commander overseeing the attack, Adm. Frank M. Bradley, “to conduct these kinetic strikes.”

When it comes to drone attacks on jihadists, can you explain to me how they could have instead interdicted them which is possible to do with a boat on the high seas. Standard practice was if the people could not be interdicted then a drone strike was OK. Then you also seem to ignore what an actual terrorist is. It seems being in a cult has made you unable to understand reality. Trump also authorized drone strikes including killing Iranian Soliemani. Congress authorized action against jihadists during the Bush administration. Drug traffickers are not terrorists. If they are terrorists then why is Trump pardoning terrorists when he pardoned drug traffickers?
Are you for real? This is what you're crying about? Hegseth 'authorized' it... Hey genius, ever occur to you that literally dozens of people passed that same order down the chain that day? No shit he relayed it, that's how ranks work, Einstein. The order starts with the Commander in Chief saying blow up drug boats and kill the terrorists which Trump has owned over and over. It also happens to be overwhelmingly popular as well. Hegseth hands that order DOWN to his subordinate and he hands DOWN that order to his subordinate and on and on and on, dumbass.

But your defense of Obama turning weddings into crater collections and deliberately blasting an American kid with zero due process is comedy gold killing hundreds of innocent people. 'If they couldn't be interdicted, drone strike was fine' might be the single dumbest sentence ever typed by someone with indoor plumbing.

So let me get this straight, in your libtard logic, intercepting a couple terrorists on a boat in the middle of endless international water is super easy, barely an inconvenience, while finding the exact same terrorists driving a Toyota through an empty desert is basically impossible? Yeah man, the ocean's just packed with destroyers and SEAL teams every ten miles, ready to floor it and Miami-Vice that speedboat the second a drone pings it. Meanwhile Yemen or Pakistan is this impenetrable fortress where nobody's ever heard of special forces, allies, or crossing a border quietly. Total mystery how we'd ever pull that off on land, right?

Poor Dicky's critical-thinking skills have flatlined. He's just one more TDS zombie whose brain blue-screens the moment reality threatens the 'Orange Man Bad' programming. Millions of them out there, all drooling the same idiotic takes, and we're all stuck breathing the exhaust.

On top of that, this genius also can't grasp why an outfit that terrorizes dirt-poor villagers, local cops, politicians, and anyone else who looks at them funny, usually via blackmail, bribes, or straight-up slaughtering entire families, works with our enemies and purposely targets Americans by sending increasingly lethal poison by the boat load, gets slapped with the 'terrorist organization' label. Shocking, I know. Next he'll tell us the Taliban are just misunderstood community organizers with a strict dress code.
 
Are you for real? This is what you're crying about? Hegseth 'authorized' it... Hey genius, ever occur to you that literally dozens of people passed that same order down the chain that day? No shit he relayed it, that's how ranks work, Einstein. The order starts with the Commander in Chief saying blow up drug boats and kill the terrorists which Trump has owned over and over. It also happens to be overwhelmingly popular as well. Hegseth hands that order DOWN to his subordinate and he hands DOWN that order to his subordinate and on and on and on, dumbass.
ROFLMAO. First you argue that Hegseth is NOT in the chain of command and the you argue that he IS in the chain of command.
Hegseth authorized the strikes. The WH said that. They didn't say he passed on the command. Are you calling the Trump administration liars?
But your defense of Obama turning weddings into crater collections and deliberately blasting an American kid with zero due process is comedy gold killing hundreds of innocent people. 'If they couldn't be interdicted, drone strike was fine' might be the single dumbest sentence ever typed by someone with indoor plumbing.


So let me get this straight, in your libtard logic, intercepting a couple terrorists on a boat in the middle of endless international water is super easy, barely an inconvenience, while finding the exact same terrorists driving a Toyota through an empty desert is basically impossible? Yeah man, the ocean's just packed with destroyers and SEAL teams every ten miles, ready to floor it and Miami-Vice that speedboat the second a drone pings it. Meanwhile Yemen or Pakistan is this impenetrable fortress where nobody's ever heard of special forces, allies, or crossing a border quietly. Total mystery how we'd ever pull that off on land, right?
I guess Toby the toddler hadn't quite achieved toddler status yet in 1980.

Then I am guessing Toby the toddler has never been in a boat before. They can't just run around for days trying to avoid capture. Radar has existed since before you were a toddler Toby. The Coast Guard and the US military has been able to stop boats on the high seas for centuries.
Poor Dicky's critical-thinking skills have flatlined. He's just one more TDS zombie whose brain blue-screens the moment reality threatens the 'Orange Man Bad' programming. Millions of them out there, all drooling the same idiotic takes, and we're all stuck breathing the exhaust.

On top of that, this genius also can't grasp why an outfit that terrorizes dirt-poor villagers, local cops, politicians, and anyone else who looks at them funny, usually via blackmail, bribes, or straight-up slaughtering entire families, works with our enemies and purposely targets Americans by sending increasingly lethal poison by the boat load, gets slapped with the 'terrorist organization' label. Shocking, I know. Next he'll tell us the Taliban are just misunderstood community organizers with a strict dress code.


A terrorist organization has political goals. That comes from the word terrorist. The Taliban has political goals. What is the political goal of a cartel? Making money isn't a political goal.
 
ROFLMAO. First you argue that Hegseth is NOT in the chain of command and the you argue that he IS in the chain of command.
Hegseth authorized the strikes. The WH said that. They didn't say he passed on the command. Are you calling the Trump administration liars?

I guess Toby the toddler hadn't quite achieved toddler status yet in 1980.

Then I am guessing Toby the toddler has never been in a boat before. They can't just run around for days trying to avoid capture. Radar has existed since before you were a toddler Toby. The Coast Guard and the US military has been able to stop boats on the high seas for centuries.



A terrorist organization has political goals. That comes from the word terrorist. The Taliban has political goals. What is the political goal of a cartel? Making money isn't a political goal.
Not a single JPP MAGAt cracker retard makes consistent sense. They flip-flop almost as often as their Orange Jesus. Weird!
 
ROFLMAO. First you argue that Hegseth is NOT in the chain of command and the you argue that he IS in the chain of command.
Hegseth authorized the strikes. The WH said that. They didn't say he passed on the command. Are you calling the Trump administration liars?

I guess Toby the toddler hadn't quite achieved toddler status yet in 1980.

Then I am guessing Toby the toddler has never been in a boat before. They can't just run around for days trying to avoid capture. Radar has existed since before you were a toddler Toby. The Coast Guard and the US military has been able to stop boats on the high seas for centuries.



A terrorist organization has political goals. That comes from the word terrorist. The Taliban has political goals. What is the political goal of a cartel? Making money isn't a political goal.
Show me where I ever said Hegseth isn't in the chain of command, you illiterate smooth-brain. I'll wait, but try not to drool on your keyboard while you search. Of course he passed the order down, that's his entire job, captain obvious. The Sec of War gets told what to do by the Commander in Chief, then he tells the next guy, and so on. Holy shit, congratulations on discovering how the military works in 2025. Want a cookie?

What exactly is your retarded point here? That a cabinet secretary relaying a presidential order is some huge scandal? Spell it out, genius, because right now it sounds like you're having a stroke while typing. The White House said Trump ordered it, Hegseth executed it, and your big gotcha is... the guy in the middle did his job? Groundbreaking stuff, Einstein. I'm dying over here.

And holy shit, you're still pretending it's easier to snatch terrorists off a cigarette boat doing 60 knots in the middle of the fucking Caribbean than it is to find a dusty Toyota crawling across a desert we have drone coverage over 24/7? You're actually still running that brain-dead take? LMAO. Yeah bro, totally impossible to track a single vehicle kicking up a dust plume the size of Delaware, but no problem at all sending SEAL teams to do a Pirates of the Caribbean boarding party on a go-fast boat three hundred miles from land. Sure, why not just have the Coast Guard pull up alongside and ask politely while they're dumping bales and lighting the ocean on fire to escape?'

You likely want due process!' cry the same people who watched Obama turn wedding parties into pink mist because some Toyota might maybe have a bad guy in it. Cartels aren't terrorists though, so what about that? Just peaceful entrepreneurs who accidentally put fentanyl in every pill because they ran out of baking soda. They only murder judges, journalists, mayors, entire police departments, and dump 100,000 dead Americans a year because... business is tough? They're not political at all, that's why they ally with Hezbollah and the Chicoms and weaponize migration like a military campaign. Nah, just good old-fashioned drug dealers with mortars, RPGs, and private armies. Totally normal.

You're not just stupid, you're aggressively, proudly, weaponized stupid. A four-year-old could grasp why these narco armies are terrorist organizations, your boy Biden even called them that when he wanted to sound tough and called for us to send in the troops years ago, but facts hit your skull and just slide off like bird shit on a windshield. Congrats, you're the reason they put directions on shampoo bottles.
 
Show me where I ever said Hegseth isn't in the chain of command, you illiterate smooth-brain. I'll wait, but try not to drool on your keyboard while you search. Of course he passed the order down, that's his entire job, captain obvious. The Sec of War gets told what to do by the Commander in Chief, then he tells the next guy, and so on. Holy shit, congratulations on discovering how the military works in 2025. Want a cookie?
You made that claim when you said T.A. was correct about military chain of command. Here is you saying it.
Really Dicky? Put up or shut up, you're knee-deep in bullshit again. I've heard Trump say he's cool with whatever Hegseth decides. That what you're peddling this time? Because as @T. A. Gardner laid out spot-on, military chains ain't a solo act, it's all CinC direction down the line.
Are you now going to argue you didn't know what the hell you were talking about?
 
You made that claim when you said T.A. was correct about military chain of command. Here is you saying it.

Are you now going to argue you didn't know what the hell you were talking about?
Where did I say whatever delusional horseshit you're pretending I said? I honestly have zero clue what you even think the 'scandal' or 'lie' is anymore, because every word out of your mouth proves you're a drooling, moron. I stand by every syllable I wrote, and I haven't lied once to anyone.

Spell it out, genius: what exactly is the scandal and which specific lie did I tell about it? Trump literally said he's fine with what Hegseth did. Does that magically rewrite the fact that orders run downhill and the buck stops with the guy at the top? Holy shit, your stupidity is the stuff of legends.

Also, I love your laser-focused autism. Out of all the retarded diarrhea you've spewed, you're fixated on some fan-fiction scenario where Hegseth either went rogue against Trump, or single-handedly invented the boat-bombing idea, or Trump was too senile to understand 'bomb boat = dead terrorist.' Pick one, dumbass, because even you don't know what idiotic point you're failing to make.

Meanwhile I wish you radicalized libtard dipshits put one-tenth this energy into giving a fuck about the tens of thousands of Americans dying from cartel poison deliberately laced into the drug supply, or how about the 350,000 kids the Biden regime 'lost' who are currently getting raped to pay off their smuggling fees to pedos with 'sponsor' phone numbers sharpied on their arms. (not one immigrant abuse hotline call was answered until Trump's team came in and so far they have rescued 62,000 kids that Biden's team never bothered to look for at all) But nah, those cartel entrepreneurs are just hardworking family men trying to turn a profit, right? Certainly not terrorist.

Or hey, maybe care about the illegal aliens your heroes in every blue city keep releasing so they can rape and murder more citizens, then cry about 'muh humanity' when cops try to stop them. But no, Poor Dicky's real passion is clutching his pearls over two dead terrorists fertilizing the ocean floor, or maybe he's mad about the exact sequence of words someone used. Hard to tell because Dicky's a mouth-breathing retard who can't articulate a coherent thought to save his life.

So, Trump is lying about who ordered what, where, or when, I guess.

Narco Terrorists aren't really terrorist like the ones Dicky has seen in the movies, that's just Trump wanting to kill brown people, in case many of us aren't as smart as Dicky, we know now.

Oh, and Obama killing nearly a thousand innocent people including an American citizen and a few dozen little children is OK because it's really hard to round up 'real terrorist' in Toyota's in the desert or really secure aspirin factories in foreign countries (our military doesn't have that capability you know). But no prob hundreds of miles out to sea, lol.

Have I got it about right Dicky? Brilliant, you should be a foreign affairs advisor for libtards with that kind of mind.
 
That is just cherry picking. Lt. Calley and Mai Lai are definitely a serious outlier statistically.
Cherry picking from a long line of horrible actions taken by American soldiers. Mai Lai was not the only one. It was the only one they could not hide. We have done what other countries' soldiers have done. We did not have to answer to a winning legal system. We won or left without legal repercussions. Our torture of prisoners in Iraq was horrible and came out too.
 
Over the centuries American military units could and did engage in what we now call war crimes and crimes against humanity.
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