Some of us saw this coming

Darth Omar said:
I wouldn’t say it’s the shutdowns ‘fault’ because things turned out ok for me lol. But it definitely had personal consequences for me. But millions of people were put out of work ‘that don’t have happy tales to tell’; people lost their shirts in small businesses and many won’t come back; depression and suicides are up; opioid abuse; on and on it goes..
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All of which could have been prevented if we had simply paid people to stay home for 4-6 weeks in March/April like every other smart country did.

You didn't want to do that...instead, you wanted to pretend it wasn't real, then you wanted to give most of the money to corporations and the wealthy because your instincts are terrible.

How'd that work out?
 
Darth Omar said:
Went ahead and retired but thanks for asking.

I wouldn’t say it’s the shutdowns ‘fault’ because things turned out ok for me lol. But it definitely had personal consequences for me. But millions of people were put out of work ‘that don’t have happy tales to tell’; people lost their shirts in small businesses and many won’t come back; depression and suicides are up; opioid abuse; on and on it goes.

The lockdown strategy left a trail of human misery—statistics are suggesting it made no difference difference in the end.
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COVID has left a trail of human misery. Other nations who did complete shut downs are fairing better than the USA. The tragedy of the USA was and is Trump and his lack of leadership.

Im glad you were able to retire, it will seem odd for a year, after that you might love it as I do.
 
Darth Omar said:
The lockdown strategy left a trail of human misery—statistics are suggesting it made no difference difference in the end.
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The lockdowns worked in every other country because they paid people to stay home instead of giving corporations trillions in welfare.
 
Phantasmal said:
COVID has left a trail of human misery. Other nations who did complete shut downs are fairing better than the USA. The tragedy of the USA was and is Trump and his lack of leadership.

Im glad you were able to retire, it will seem odd for a year, after that you might love it as I do.
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I can already tell winter will be a challenge but I wouldn’t trade it lol.

I was more ready for it than I realized.
 
LV426 said:
So far, at least 3x as many people have died from COVID as died from the worst year of the flu in the last 10 years.

All your fault.
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Depends how ‘aggressively’ they want to record flu deaths; whether hospitals will be reimbursed for flu cases; that sort of thing.

Like I said, I’ll be watching.
 
Darth Omar said:
Depends how ‘aggressively’ they want to record flu deaths; whether hospitals will be reimbursed for flu cases; that sort of thing.
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The CDC has reported flu deaths data on their site.

That's how I know the most to die in the last ten years was 61,000.

I do the work; you do not because you are lazy, have a rotten moral character, and know that there's no mechanism to hold you accountable for what you say on anonymous forums.
 
Darth Omar said:
Like I said, I’ll be watching.
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Watching what? The statistics? You said that Trump's instincts were right based on the stats that show...massive spikes of COVID following "re-opening".

If we had simply paid everyone to stay home for 6 weeks in March-April, we wouldn't be in this situation today.

But we didn't do that. Why? Because you and Trump have the worst instincts.
 
Darth Omar said:
Six months into the Covid-19 pandemic, the U.S. has now carried out two large-scale experiments in public health—first, in March and April, the lockdown of the economy to arrest the spread of the virus, and second, since mid-April, the reopening of the economy. The results are in. Counterintuitive though it may be, statistical analysis shows that locking down the economy didn’t contain the disease’s spread and reopening it didn’t unleash a second wave of infections.

Considering that lockdowns are economically costly and create well-documented long-term public-health consequences beyond Covid, imposing them appears to have been a large policy error. At the beginning, when little was known, officials acted in ways they thought prudent. But now evidence proves that lockdowns were an expensive treatment with serious side effects and no benefit to society.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-failed-experiment-of-covid-lockdowns-11599000890
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Scathing indictment of the lockdown strategy [backed by statistics] in the WSJ.

For months, some of us have been saying the social/health/economic costs of the type of lockdowns we saw the earlier in the year were not only entirely predictable—but they were being ignored by the medical bureaucracy.

Fauci called them ‘an inconvenience’.

This will be looked back on as the single most destructive policy ever instituted by the government.
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The reality on the ground proves the author’s point invalid, NY, hit hardest at the offset, closed down, followed strict guidelines based on Science, and today is nearly fully reopened with infection rates below one percent and recently single number deaths per day

Other States, and we all know who they are, started with nearly zero cases, closed down haphazardly, didn’t follow strict guidelines, and today, even with all that has been learned about the virus since the offset, still has double digit infection rates and deaths in the hundreds daily

Lockdowns worked where applied properly, and if a resurgence didn’t occur how come some of those States who didn’t follow guidelines have had to revert back to earlier restrictions when they tried to open up
 
archives said:
The reality on the ground proves the author’s point invalid, NY, hit hardest at the offset, closed down, followed strict guidelines based on Science, and today is nearly fully reopened with infection rates below one percent and recently single number deaths per day

Other States, and we all know who they are, started with nearly zero cases, closed down haphazardly, didn’t follow strict guidelines, and today, even with all that has been learned about the virus since the offset, still has double digit infection rates and deaths in the hundreds daily

Lockdowns worked where applied properly, and if a resurgence didn’t occur how come some of those States who didn’t follow guidelines have had to revert back to earlier restrictions when they tried to open up
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They are doing what should have been done to begin with:

1) wait to shut down elective procedures *until it was necessary*
2) targeted mitigation schemes
3) most importantly, they didn’t lockdown

And they did it without a Cuomo-like catastrophe.
 
Darth Omar said:
Six months into the Covid-19 pandemic, the U.S. has now carried out two large-scale experiments in public health—first, in March and April, the lockdown of the economy to arrest the spread of the virus, and second, since mid-April, the reopening of the economy. The results are in. Counterintuitive though it may be, statistical analysis shows that locking down the economy didn’t contain the disease’s spread and reopening it didn’t unleash a second wave of infections.

Considering that lockdowns are economically costly and create well-documented long-term public-health consequences beyond Covid, imposing them appears to have been a large policy error. At the beginning, when little was known, officials acted in ways they thought prudent. But now evidence proves that lockdowns were an expensive treatment with serious side effects and no benefit to society.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-failed-experiment-of-covid-lockdowns-11599000890
__________________

Scathing indictment of the lockdown strategy [backed by statistics] in the WSJ.

For months, some of us have been saying the social/health/economic costs of the type of lockdowns we saw the earlier in the year were not only entirely predictable—but they were being ignored by the medical bureaucracy.

Fauci called them ‘an inconvenience’.

This will be looked back on as the single most destructive policy ever instituted by the government.
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They've also caused other health crisis by locking down. Including more suicides, more obesity and more divorces.

Working out in a gym not only slows obesity but boosts your immune system. 2 factors that help in fighting covid.

The lockdowns were a joke!
 
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