Somebody name one

[BartenderElite]

This thread is still going?

Tell ya what. I'll name one, when someone can provide some detail on "ObamaGate."

 

[AProudLefty]

Nazi Germany was left not right. You were talking about revisionists not historians.

The historians during the Nazi Germany regime and WW2 were revisionists?

 

[Arks&sparka]

Examples?

labeling everything that doesn't agree with the party message is fake news regardless of how true it is. Technocratic oligarchs removing content based on political viewpoints. This is not exclusive to the left but it virtually is.

Examples?

that's easy talk about redistributing the wealth as they see fit. That is exclusive to the left.

Examples?

Is this what happens when you get your politics from Facebook memes?

no you calling everything you don't like fascist without understanding what that means is what happens when you get your politics from Facebook memes. You're more in line with the woke authoritarianism of Facebook than I am.

 

[Sailor]

This thread is still going?

Tell ya what. I'll name one, when someone can provide some detail on "ObamaGate."

That is what he has built on the mansion he bought on Marthas Vineyard. He put big walls around it and a huge gate. Islanders call it the "Obama gate". You know, to keep the illegals and riffraff out.

 

[Arks&sparka]

The historians during the Nazi Germany regime and WW2 were revisionists?

You'll have to show me historians saying that it was far right because the history doesn't line up with that so I'm suspicious of your claims.

 

[AProudLefty]

Even Mussolini himself said his Fascism was to the right.

 

[StoneByStone]

labeling everything that doesn't agree with the party message is fake news regardless of how true it is. Technocratic oligarchs removing content based on political viewpoints. This is not exclusive to the left but it virtually is.

Even if the Left did that, it isn't "forcible suppression of opposition."
What you're basically saying is that if someone accuses you of lying, that's Fascism. If a PRIVATE company decides not to give you a platform, that's Fascism. This is some hardcore #projection.

that's easy talk about redistributing the wealth as they see fit. That is exclusive to the left.

Nope, that's not regimentation. Unless you think ANY regulation is regimentation. In that case, every country in the world has strict government control of the economy.

no you calling everything you don't like fascist without understanding what that means is what happens when you get your politics from Facebook memes. You're more in line with the woke authoritarianism of Facebook than I am.

I don't call everything I don't like Fascism. This is #strawmanning.
"Woke Authoritarianism" is a bullshit concept used by actual Fascists. It's a form of #projection. You want to eliminate freedom of speech, but you can't openly say that, so you pretend that Liberals are Fascist for criticizing your stupid ideas.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Even if the Left did that, it isn't "forcible suppression of opposition."

the left does do that and it is.

What you're basically saying is that if someone accuses you of lying, that's Fascism. If a PRIVATE company decides not to give you a platform, that's Fascism. This is some hardcore #projection.

you would have a point if there wasn't section 230 protections for them. Just because of the left-wing suppression being orchestrated by a private company does not make it not fascism. Technocratic authoritarians are authoritarians the same.

Nope, that's not regimentation. Unless you think ANY regulation is regimentation. In that case, every country in the world has strict government control of the economy.

I'm sorry arbitrarily deciding who has made enough money and stealing from them through legal action absolutely is regimenting. So you are lying.

I don't call everything I don't like Fascism. This is #strawmanning.

you are still lying.

"Woke Authoritarianism" is a bullshit concept used by actual Fascists.

this is also a lie from people who are sympathetic to woke authoritarianism

You want to eliminate freedom of speech, but you can't openly say that, so you pretend that Liberals are Fascist for criticizing your stupid ideas.

I didn't say a thing about liberals. Woke authoritarianism and your brand of fascism is absolutely illiberal.

Do you have anything besides lies?

 

[Arks&sparka]

Even Mussolini himself said his Fascism was to the right.

So you trust Mussolini over history?

 

[AProudLefty]

So you trust Mussolini over history?

I guess you aren't interested in what he had to say?

 

[StoneByStone]

Just because of the left-wing suppression being orchestrated by a private company does not make it not fascism. Technocratic authoritarians are authoritarians the same.

Nope, Fascism is when the GOVERNMENT bans speech.
When a private company decides to deplatform someone, that's just the free market. Are you a Socialist or something?

I'm sorry arbitrarily deciding who has made enough money and stealing from them through legal action absolutely is regimenting. So you are lying.

Do you know what "regimenting" means? It refers to strict control. Higher taxes and welfare programs is not controlling the economy.

this is also a lie from people who are sympathetic to woke authoritarianism

"Woke Authoritarianism" is essentially just people criticizing you. Now if you're too much of a snowflake to deal with that, you have my sympathy. But being criticized isn't Authoritarianism.

Real Authoritarianism is banning speech, which is what you want.

 

[Arks&sparka]

I guess you aren't interested in what he had to say?

No interested in what you have to say.

 

[AProudLefty]

No interested in what you have to say.

What are you interested in discussing?

 

[Arks&sparka]

Nope, Fascism is when the GOVERNMENT bans speech.
When a private company decides to deplatform someone, that's just the free market. Are you a Socialist or something?

so you were lying when you said the cowboys were fascist since they're not government they're a private organization?

see it's kind of funny how it's only ever conveniently fascism when you don't agree with it.

Iyou are just calling whatever you don't like fascist invariably based on the fact of whether or not you like it you can clean that's not what you're doing but you've already proved that it is.

Do you know what "regimenting" means? It refers to strict control. Higher taxes and welfare programs is not controlling the economy.

yes it's when you say to people you have too much money and we're taking it now that's regimenting it's not welfare.

"Woke Authoritarianism" is essentially just people criticizing you. Now if you're too much of a snowflake to deal with that, you have my sympathy. But being criticized isn't Authoritarianism.

no that's not what it is but since you're not interested in learning you can remain in the dark.

Real Authoritarianism is banning speech, which is what you want.

I'm an expert in what I want and you are a charlatan no I don't want to ban Free speech you just lied. The left wants to ban speech they call hate speech that is strictly from the left.

You are projecting your fascism unto others I don't know if you're doing this to lie to yourself or because you think I'm going to believe you. Any argument you've made is either a straw man or false or a contradicts something you said previously the only reason you would be this dishonest is because I'm on to something

 

[Arks&sparka]

What are you interested in discussing?

With you nothing thanks.

 

[AProudLefty]

With you nothing thanks.

So.... why are you here?

 

[StoneByStone]

so you were lying when you said the cowboys were fascist since they're not government they're a private organization?

Do you mean the Proud Boys?
Yes, they're Fascists because they want to use the government to take away free speech. Now if they simply had their own social media site where they deplatformed people, no problem. My issue is with people like the Proud Boys banning speech altogether.

you are just calling whatever you don't like fascist invariably based on the fact of whether or not you like it you can clean that's not what you're doing but you've already proved that it is.

Bullshit. I disagreed with Bush and Obama, but I never called them Fascists. I call Trump a Fascist because he actually is one.

yes it's when you say to people you have too much money and we're taking it now that's regimenting it's not welfare.

So taxation is regimenting?

I'm an expert in what I want and you are a charlatan no I don't want to ban Free speech you just lied. The left wants to ban speech they call hate speech that is strictly from the left.

Which Leftists have said we should ban hate speech? Any names you can give me? Are these mainstream politicians or activists?

 

[Arks&sparka]

So.... why are you here?

I have already explained that to you. Did you already forget?

 

[AProudLefty]

I have already explained that to you. Did you already forget?

I remember that you are not interested in serious discussions/debates.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Do you mean the Proud Boys?
Yes, they're Fascists because they want to use the government to take away free speech.

they have said and behaved to the contrary of this claim so your claim is dismissed as false.

Bullshit. I disagreed with Bush and Obama, but I never called them Fascists.

but you are falsely calling Trump and the cowboys fascist.

I call Trump a Fascist because

you disagree with his politics so much and you really can't explain why.

So taxation is regimenting?

that's enough with the straw man fallacies. I said determining a certain level of wealth is too much is regimenting. You aren't going to trick me into defending your straw man.

Which Leftists have said we should ban hate speech? Any names you can give me? Are these mainstream politicians or activists?

I'm not interested in proving anything to you.