Sorry to disapoint... no double dip, and now this!

Jarod

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Top economist are predicting a robust recovery in the coming year. Job creation will lead the way.

So, if it was as bad as you guys said........ No chance of recovery, no new jobs, deficate going to kill us, socialism killing the American dream, almost certian double dip....

You must admit the Presidnet seems to have done a GREAT job leading us through without all the doom and gloom that was predected!!

Look at the amazing economic changes two years have brought to us.... no double dip... and a robust recovery!


Sorry, Lets hope you can avoid sour grapes.
 
They will say it was the in coming republican house that made it recover.

Just like they claimed the deficit reductions brought by the 1993 budget reduction act which NOT ONE R voted for.
 
They will say it was the in coming republican house that made it recover.

Just like they claimed the deficit reductions brought by the 1993 budget reduction act which NOT ONE R voted for.

of course they didn't vote for it......

Specifics

* It created 36 percent and 39.6 income tax rates for individuals in the top 1.2% of the wage earners.
* It created a 35 percent income tax rate for corporations.
* The cap on Medicare taxes was repealed.
* Transportation fuels taxes were raised by 4.3 cents per gallon.
* The taxable portion of Social Security benefits was raised.
* The phase-out of the personal exemption and limit on itemized deductions were permanently extended.
* Part IV Section 14131: Expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit and added inflation adjustments

the Republicans favored a different approach.....
Another proposal was offered in the House of Representatives by John Kasich (R-OH). He sponsored an amendment that would have reduced the deficit by cutting $355 billion in spending with $129 billion of the cuts coming from entitlement programs (the actual bill cut entitlement spending by only $42 billion). The amendment would have eliminated any tax increases. The amendment failed by a 138-295 vote with many Republicans voting against the amendment and only six Democrats voting in favor of the amendment.

Democrats = tax more, Republicans = spend less.....nothing ever changes....

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993"]Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
Man, there are a few hundred threads we could bump right now from '08 explaining to all of us how Obama's measures were going to bankrupt us & create Thunderdome.

And you're right that he won't get credit now. But who cares; I'm glad the economy is on the upswing...
 
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Top economist are predicting a robust recovery in the coming year. Job creation will lead the way.

So, if it was as bad as you guys said........ No chance of recovery, no new jobs, deficate going to kill us, socialism killing the American dream, almost certian double dip....

You must admit the Presidnet seems to have done a GREAT job leading us through without all the doom and gloom that was predected!!

Look at the amazing economic changes two years have brought to us.... no double dip... and a robust recovery!


Sorry, Lets hope you can avoid sour grapes.

I thought you always argured for proof of a person's guilt, before they were convicted; but yet when it comes to President Obama you're willing to bend yourself over a barrel, just because he says so.
IRONIC
 
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Top economist are predicting a robust recovery in the coming year. Job creation will lead the way.

So, if it was as bad as you guys said........ No chance of recovery, no new jobs, deficate going to kill us, socialism killing the American dream, almost certian double dip....

You must admit the Presidnet seems to have done a GREAT job leading us through without all the doom and gloom that was predected!!

Look at the amazing economic changes two years have brought to us.... no double dip... and a robust recovery!


Sorry, Lets hope you can avoid sour grapes.

No sour grapes from me.....

The recession was over in June of 2009...its now Dec. or 2010....1 and 1/2 YEARS AGO.....
don't you figure its about time for some signs of recovery to appear?

The march to Socialism is temporarily on hold, Obama got 63 Republicans elected to congress, the Bush tax plan is STILL in effect for at least 2 more years, and the Democrats power has been cut big time....and the damage they have caused to the country has been limited.....

All said and done....its been not a bad run since Obama was elected....:good4u:
 
of course they didn't vote for it......



the Republicans favored a different approach.....


Democrats = tax more, Republicans = spend less.....nothing ever changes....

Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Republicans spent MORE and never had any way of paying for it. It is Democrats who initiated PAYGO. Under Bush II we had Medicare D, the biggest entitlement expansion in Medicare history. But the major beneficiaries were big pharma and insurance cartels who sucked the money out of taxpayers to 'administer' the program. Bush forbid Medicare D from negotiating drug prices like the VA does. Guaranteeing it nailed the elderly and filled the coffers of corporations.

You are right about one thing...nothing ever changes...

----------------------------------------------------------

The President of the United States, Address in Indianapolis, Indiana:

Thomas Jefferson did not seek unity by concealing the real issues between himself and Alexander Hamilton. He made the issues clear, so that the people could reach a decision. And their decision determined that democracy rather than autocracy should prevail in this great country of ours.

Andrew Jackson did not seek unity with the moneymakers in Philadelphia. He made the issues so clear that the people decided to place the control of the money in the Government of the United States, and not in a few private banks.

Abraham Lincoln did not seek unity with Stephen A. Douglas. He made it clear that this Nation could not continue to exist half slave and half free.

Franklin D. Roosevelt, in 1933, did not seek unity with the economic royalists. He proposed the New Deal.

And today, I do not seek unity by concealing the issues between me and the special privilege groups that control the Republican Party.

I never will seek that sort of unity.

...

Today the forces of liberalism face a crisis. The people of the United States must make a choice between two ways of living--a decision, which will affect us the rest of our lives and our children and our grandchildren after us.

On the other side, there is the Wall Street way of life and politics. Trust the leader! Let big business take care of prices and profits! Measure all things by money! That is the philosophy of the masters of the Republican Party.

Well, I have been studying the Republican Party for over 12 years at close hand in the Capital of the United States. And by this time, I have discovered where the Republicans stand on most of the major issues.

Since they won't tell you themselves, I am going to tell you.

Republicans approve of the American farmer-but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor a minimum wage--the smaller the minimum the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They approve of social security benefits-so much so that they took them away from almost a million people. They believe in international trade--so much so that they crippled our reciprocal trade program, and killed our International Wheat Agreement. They favor the admission of displaced persons--but only within shameful racial and religious limitations. They consider electric power a great blessing-but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They say TVA is wonderful--but we ought never to try it again. They condemn "cruelly high prices"--but fight to the death every effort to bring them down. They think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.

Now, my friends, that is the Wall Street Republican way of life. But there is another way--there is another way--the Democratic way, the way of the Democratic Party.

Of course, the Democratic Party is not perfect. Nobody ever said it was. But the Democratic Party believes in the people. It believes in freedom and progress, and it is fighting for its beliefs right now.

In the Democratic Party, you won't find the kind of unity where everybody thinks what the boss tells him to think, and nothing else.

But you will find an overriding purpose to work for the good of mankind. And you will find a program--a concrete, realistic, and practical program that is worth believing in and fighting for.

Whole speech...
 
They will say it was the in coming republican house that made it recover.

Just like they claimed the deficit reductions brought by the 1993 budget reduction act which NOT ONE R voted for.

you mean just like you hack dems that immediately gave obama and the dems credit as soon as bush left office

:rolleyes:
 
Just curious - what was there to credit anyone for in January of 2009?

people like jarod and evince were immediately giving obama credit, if it wasn't right in january, it was in february and haven't you seen the charts that numerous dems continually post bush/obama and how it magically got better as soon as obama took office...i think its the jobs chart or something like that

funny how you've never taken issue with that chart, but you get all "curious" when i say something about it
 
people like jarod and evince were immediately giving obama credit, if it wasn't right in january, it was in february and haven't you seen the charts that numerous dems continually post bush/obama and how it magically got better as soon as obama took office...i think its the jobs chart or something like that

funny how you've never taken issue with that chart, but you get all "curious" when i say something about it

I'd love to see that. The economy was absolutely in the tank in late '08 and for much of '09; certainly, the beginning of '09 was as bleak as any time in decades.

I can't imagine anyone trumpeting Obama for any results-oriented accomplishments at that time.
 
people like jarod and evince were immediately giving obama credit, if it wasn't right in january, it was in february and haven't you seen the charts that numerous dems continually post bush/obama and how it magically got better as soon as obama took office...i think its the jobs chart or something like that

funny how you've never taken issue with that chart, but you get all "curious" when i say something about it

BULLSHIT, I was not.

You are a fucking liar. Show me a post where I was doing such....
 
I'd love to see that. The economy was absolutely in the tank in late '08 and for much of '09; certainly, the beginning of '09 was as bleak as any time in decades.

I can't imagine anyone trumpeting Obama for any results-oriented accomplishments at that time.
We're 18 months into the Obama recovery.....
Hows it workin' for ya?

Jarhead thinks its just peachy and getting more robust every day....
 
We're 18 months into the Obama recovery.....
Hows it workin' for ya?

Jarhead thinks its just peachy and getting more robust every day....

There was no 6 or 12 month fix to the kind of crash we experienced while Bush was President.

Would I like to be further along? Sure. There are still a ton of people out of work.

But we have turned the corner, and the outlook is improving with each passing month. We're on the right track, which frankly, is a relief. We were teetering pretty close to a double-dip and even a depression.
 
I'd love to see that. The economy was absolutely in the tank in late '08 and for much of '09; certainly, the beginning of '09 was as bleak as any time in decades.

I can't imagine anyone trumpeting Obama for any results-oriented accomplishments at that time.

wow...that you claim to have not seen any chart like that shows you really do have blinders on for your party....here is one that is constantly paroded around, there are others as well....perhaps you ought not be such a partisan all the time and call your side out once in a while

chart-of-monthly-employment-losses-gwb-administation-vs-obama-t.jpg
 
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Top economist are predicting a robust recovery in the coming year. Job creation will lead the way.

So, if it was as bad as you guys said........ No chance of recovery, no new jobs, deficate going to kill us, socialism killing the American dream, almost certian double dip....

You must admit the Presidnet seems to have done a GREAT job leading us through without all the doom and gloom that was predected!!

Look at the amazing economic changes two years have brought to us.... no double dip... and a robust recovery!


Sorry, Lets hope you can avoid sour grapes.

Well some economists did predict a double-dip recession. Fortunately they look to be wrong. I would rather economists be predicting good news than bad but just because these economists are predicting a robust 2011 unfortunately doesn't just make it so. Hopefully they will be proven correct.

As of today though we still aren't seeing the new jobs that are needed (unfortunately I know on this one) and the issue of the deficit hasn't just disappeared (multiple Economist issues have excellent stories on this).
 
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