Steven Smith, Condemned Killer, Won't Get Mercy From Ohio Gov. John Kasich

Anyone know what time on May 1st he is supposed to get the needle? I want to celebrate with a gin and tonic as it is happening.
 
Thithicus said:
Twelve days until this fucker is sent across the river Styx. I sometimes question the death penalty; then, I am reminded how some crimes are so heinous that the death penalty is the only suitable form of punishment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/17/steven-smith-condemned-ki_n_3105713.html
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I too have mixed emotions about the Death Penalty. On one hand, there are people that deserve it, and with the automatic appeals process, they have plenty of time to make things right with God.

On the other hand...a while back there was a documentary series called "Dallas DNA" there were a hell of a lot of people locked up, some on Death Row....who were cleared by DNA evidence. Apparently, the Dallas DA's office was overzealous at one point.
 
Steelplate said:
I too have mixed emotions about the Death Penalty. On one hand, there are people that deserve it, and with the automatic appeals process, they have plenty of time to make things right with God.

On the other hand...a while back there was a documentary series called "Dallas DNA" there were a hell of a lot of people locked up, some on Death Row....who were cleared by DNA evidence. Apparently, the Dallas DA's office was overzealous at one point.
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Yeah, I would say absolute, irrefutable proof (or an outright admission) should be required to apply the DP. Its application in Texas makes me uneasy.
 
Thithicus said:
Anyone know what time on May 1st he is supposed to get the needle? I want to celebrate with a gin and tonic as it is happening.
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You can do what we did the night Ted Bundy was executed. We had a going away party. A friend brought a poster that said "Bon Voyage Ted. Glad to see you go!"
 
Steelplate said:
I too have mixed emotions about the Death Penalty. On one hand, there are people that deserve it, and with the automatic appeals process, they have plenty of time to make things right with God.

On the other hand...a while back there was a documentary series called "Dallas DNA" there were a hell of a lot of people locked up, some on Death Row....who were cleared by DNA evidence. Apparently, the Dallas DA's office was overzealous at one point.
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My issue with the death penalty is that it is inequitable and sometimes capricious. Those who can afford competent council rarely recieve the death penalty. Others have gone to their doom due to corrupt or over zealous prosecution or other legal misconduct. Until there is a reasonable system for addressing and reasonably eliminating these inequaties I oppose the death penalty.

Having said that, my heart pumps piss for this cretin.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
My issue with the death penalty is that it is inequitable and sometimes capricious. Those who can afford competent council rarely recieve the death penalty. Others have gone to their doom due to corrupt or over zealous prosecution or other legal misconduct. Until there is a reasonable system for addressing and reasonably eliminating these inequaties I oppose the death penalty.

Having said that, my heart pumps piss for this cretin.
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This is true... the death penalty is very lopsided as far as demographics are concerned. Not in this case, but in many.
 
Thithicus said:
This is true... the death penalty is very lopsided as far as demographics are concerned. Not in this case, but in many.
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Oh I certainly agree. I would say that the over whelming majority of time that the death penalty is exercised in this nation the person being executed eminantly deserved it. What bothers me is that I know along the way there are going to be people who don't deserve the death penalty getting killed and people who do deserve it walking away cause the assholes got the monety to pay for the representation.
 
Damocles said:
The crime is horrific. He doesn't deserve a relatively peaceful journey into the dark.
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Well, that's a matter of debate. Once the guy's gone, does it really matter how he went. I lean towards quick and merciful...even if the person doesn't deserve it. To do otherwise makes us no better than the perp.
 
Steelplate said:
Well, that's a matter of debate. Once the guy's gone, does it really matter how he went. I lean towards quick and merciful...even if the person doesn't deserve it. To do otherwise makes us no better than the perp.
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I prefer a long and healthy life in Supermax 23 hour a day lockup with as much time as possible to dwell on the crime for somebody who has done this. Why give them quick release and, depending on your belief, a new start? The idea that a quick and easy death is more punishing than a long life in solitary lockup is, IMO, based in retribution rather than justice. Justice is an easy death for somebody who tortured a living infant?
 
Damocles said:
I prefer a long and healthy life in Supermax 23 hour a day lockup with as much time as possible to dwell on the crime for somebody who has done this. Why give them quick release and, depending on your belief, a new start? The idea that a quick and easy death is more punishing than a long life in solitary lockup is, IMO, based in retribution rather than justice. Justice is an easy death for somebody who tortured a living infant?
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1. Then we have to pay for the bastard...of course, if we let the dope smokers who never hurt a fly out, this wouldn't be a big deal.

2. I wasn't comparing death penalty to life without parole. I was comparing the death penalty as is, compared to torturing a person to death ala Braveheart or something.
 
Steelplate said:
1. Then we have to pay for the bastard...of course, if we let the dope smokers who never hurt a fly out, this wouldn't be a big deal.
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1. We pay more for every death penalty prisoner than any lifetime prisoner.

2. I wasn't comparing death penalty to life without parole. I was comparing the death penalty as is, compared to torturing a person to death ala Braveheart or something.
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2. Which you assumed I meant. So I cleared up your misconception. I do not support the death penalty, for more than one reason.

First, it is too kind it is far more cruel to make the guilty live in prison than it is to give them quick escape through an easy nap into the black. Secondly, while somebody is in hard lockup they can still be released if we've made a mistake, which our system has made myriad times.
 
Damocles said:
The crime is horrific. He doesn't deserve a relatively peaceful journey into the dark.
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The Shawnee had a kind of execution that would be perfect for this creep. They'd plant a sapling into the ground so that about 2.5 feet stuck out. They'd then sharpen the end into a point. They would then carry the condemned over to the stake and drop them on top of it. After the person died they'd arrange them in a pose and then leave them there as a warning to others.
 
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