Surprise! Massachusetts pushes for spanking ban

TheDanold

TheDanold

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Charge the parents with abuse and neglect? What a crazy pack of extremists. It's small comfort to me that after Britain passed a ban and all the Liberals on here who said "it would never happen here" are wrong yet again.
Great Liberals, send the police to people's homes, take the parents from the children and lock them up for their punishment. I'm sure they'll see much less "abuse" and "neglect" in a group home.

"Lawmakers on Beacon Hill are set to consider a proposed ban on spanking children in the commonwealth.

NewsCenter 5's Shiba Russell reported that the issue is set for debate at a Statehouse hearing Wednesday morning.

The Boston Herald reported that State Rep. Jay Kaufman filed the spanking ban petition at the request of an Arlington, Mass., nurse who wants Massachusetts to become the first state in the country to stop corporal punishment.
If this proposal does become law and parents are caught hitting their children who are under the age of 18 they could be charged with abuse or neglect. "
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14701492/detail.html

This is why I consider Liberalism far more scary than anything Conservatives could ever come up with.
 
thats Massachusetts for you.. leading the charge in what the democrats have in store for the country. You all know it takes a village is the primary theme.
 
this is the sort of shit that drives even keeled independents and moderates away from democrats.

its nobody's business how a parent raises a child. while i dont use spanking but all for the most serious offenses like when he ran into a road and when he somehow managed to get to eh pairing knives.. it should most definitely not be a crime.
 
TheDanold said:
Charge the parents with abuse and neglect? What a crazy pack of extremists. It's small comfort to me that after Britain passed a ban and all the Liberals on here who said "it would never happen here" are wrong yet again.
Great Liberals, send the police to people's homes, take the parents from the children and lock them up for their punishment. I'm sure they'll see much less "abuse" and "neglect" in a group home.

"Lawmakers on Beacon Hill are set to consider a proposed ban on spanking children in the commonwealth.

NewsCenter 5's Shiba Russell reported that the issue is set for debate at a Statehouse hearing Wednesday morning.

The Boston Herald reported that State Rep. Jay Kaufman filed the spanking ban petition at the request of an Arlington, Mass., nurse who wants Massachusetts to become the first state in the country to stop corporal punishment.
If this proposal does become law and parents are caught hitting their children who are under the age of 18 they could be charged with abuse or neglect. "
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14701492/detail.html

This is why I consider Liberalism far more scary than anything Conservatives could ever come up with.
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Yeah, preventing people from spanking their children is much worse than what the conservative Bush Administration thinks it can do to US citizens in the name of the War on Terror. Rendition? Torture? Indefinite detention without charges? Use of coerced confessions as evidence? Warrantless wire-tapping? They've got nothing on a proposed ban on corporal punishment. That's the worst.
 
Dungheap said:
Yeah, preventing people from spanking their children is much worse than what the conservative Bush Administration thinks it can do to US citizens in the name of the War on Terror. Rendition? Torture? Indefinite detention without charges? Use of coerced confessions as evidence? Warrantless wire-tapping? They've got nothing on a proposed ban on corporal punishment. That's the worst.
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I was thinking the same thing. I was stunned by that line.

We can create 4 million refugees, let the economy run down due to a complete lack of fiscal policy, ignore the impending healthcare crisis, erode freedom & every other miserable thing that has happened in this Presidency, but as long as our right to spank is intact, life is good...
 
Dungheap said:
Yeah, preventing people from spanking their children is much worse than what the conservative Bush Administration thinks it can do to US citizens in the name of the War on Terror. Rendition? Torture? Indefinite detention without charges? Use of coerced confessions as evidence? Warrantless wire-tapping? They've got nothing on a proposed ban on corporal punishment. That's the worst.
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i didnt say its worse.. but wtf get your party on the same page if you want to win in 08. stay out of peoples business with abortion and gay rights in the bedroom.. but nooooo you cant spank your kids?
 
Dungheap said:
Yeah, preventing people from spanking their children is much worse than what the conservative Bush Administration thinks it can do to US citizens in the name of the War on Terror. Rendition? Torture? Indefinite detention without charges? Use of coerced confessions as evidence? Warrantless wire-tapping? They've got nothing on a proposed ban on corporal punishment. That's the worst.
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I know you are trying to use sarcasm here but I agree with what you write. It isn't that perposterous to me. What Bushco have done in the war on terror is bad in some instances, yea, but I definitely think it is worse if an idiot comes in and arrests me for disciplining my kid. My wife is afraid to even swat him in public so now that has become my job. I'm sorry but I do not care what people think when it comes to discipline, he is my child. I don't want him to grow up to be ..... well....Michael Moore.
 
im telling you.. this is the scary faction of the dem base.. sort of like the religious right.

leave my gun rights alone and dont tell me how to raise my kid.

same type of fears dems have about religious right huh.. justs different opinions.
 
Dungheap said:
Yeah, preventing people from spanking their children is much worse than what the conservative Bush Administration thinks it can do to US citizens in the name of the War on Terror. Rendition? Torture? Indefinite detention without charges? Use of coerced confessions as evidence? Warrantless wire-tapping? They've got nothing on a proposed ban on corporal punishment. That's the worst.
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What US citizens were tortured? subjected to rendition? Held indefinitely without charges?

Side note, NONE of the above makes this idiotic bill a good idea. So you can attempt to change the subject all you want... but the idiot that came up with this bill is a detriment to your party and nothing will change that.
 
Superfreak said:
What US citizens were tortured? subjected to rendition? Held indefinitely without charges?

Side note, NONE of the above makes this idiotic bill a good idea. So you can attempt to change the subject all you want... but the idiot that came up with this bill is a detriment to your party and nothing will change that.
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Jose Padilla?

I'm not changing the subject. I'm merely responding to Dano's claim that liberalism is far more scary than anything that conservatives can come up with. I simply disagree with his statement for obvious reasons.
 
i take it a lot of republicans beat their kids... but in defense, i got a few wooden spoons cracked on me, got the belt, i personally think the worst out of any of them was getting my mouth washed out w/ soap, or when my mom tied me to a tree next to a beesnest with honey all over my body naked.


the problem with corprol punishment is that there is a lot of grey area's where does it go from reprimanding to child abuse?
 
Onceler said:
I was thinking the same thing. I was stunned by that line.

We can create 4 million refugees, let the economy run down due to a complete lack of fiscal policy, ignore the impending healthcare crisis, erode freedom & every other miserable thing that has happened in this Presidency, but as long as our right to spank is intact, life is good...
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Now please, tell me where he stated it was worse? Or that he was ok with any of your comments?

Too many of you are of the opinion that if something isn't as bad as the cluster f**k in Iraq that it is justifiable.

This bill is wrong and you know it. The government has NO PLACE deciding how a parent should discipline their kid.
 
Robdawg said:
the problem with corprol punishment is that there is a lot of grey area's where does it go from reprimanding to child abuse?
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It's a good point. The "don't tell me how to raise my kid" argument goes only so far.

Still, I think this kind of regulation goes a little far. I'm not a fan of spanking, and think it tends to be an outlet for parents who aren't thinking creatively, it doesn't cross the line of abuse, imo.
 
Robdawg said:
i take it a lot of republicans beat their kids... but in defense, i got a few wooden spoons cracked on me, got the belt, i personally think the worst out of any of them was getting my mouth washed out w/ soap, or when my mom tied me to a tree next to a beesnest with honey all over my body naked.


the problem with corprol punishment is that there is a lot of grey area's where does it go from reprimanding to child abuse?
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I understand the desire to keep the state out of how you raise your kid and maybe someone can give me a good reason for the distinction, but why is it ok to do something to a child under the age of 18 that would be considered battery if done to anyone over 18.

I don't necessarily support this legislation, but I understand where the guy is coming form. Further, until I see some evidence that other people support this bill I'd shy away from castigating the entire democratic party.
 
Superfreak said:
Now please, tell me where he stated it was worse? Or that he was ok with any of your comments?

Too many of you are of the opinion that if something isn't as bad as the cluster f**k in Iraq that it is justifiable.

This bill is wrong and you know it. The government has NO PLACE deciding how a parent should discipline their kid.
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You should read before you type. First post:

"This is why I consider Liberalism far more scary than anything Conservatives could ever come up with"
 
leaningright said:
I know you are trying to use sarcasm here but I agree with what you write. It isn't that perposterous to me. What Bushco have done in the war on terror is bad in some instances, yea, but I definitely think it is worse if an idiot comes in and arrests me for disciplining my kid. My wife is afraid to even swat him in public so now that has become my job. I'm sorry but I do not care what people think when it comes to discipline, he is my child. I don't want him to grow up to be ..... well....Michael Moore.
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I completely agree, there is zero chance of me being arrested as a terrorism suspect (not that the Dems have done anything in congress to weaken that), but there are tens of millions of parents who spank...charge them all with abuse and a criminal record with police coming to take them away?
Dungheap and Lorax are 100% wrong.
 
Dungheap said:
I understand the desire to keep the state out of how you raise your kid and maybe someone can give me a good reason for the distinction, but why is it ok to do something to a child under the age of 18 that would be considered battery if done to anyone over 18.
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Why is boxing not battery then? Or what about kids fighting each other?
You have rules within society, this goes way too far and the government should not have a role in disciplining children. I think they've proved themselves well enough in becoming the father in Liberal Democrat run inner cities on how well kids turn out when they have no discipline.

Dungheap said:
I don't necessarily support this legislation, but I understand where the guy is coming form. Further, until I see some evidence that other people support this bill I'd shy away from castigating the entire democratic party.
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I'd like to, but again, when I posted this in Britain, you guys said it would never happen here. When I posted this about a congresslady in Cali, you guys said it was just one kook. Now we see it happening in Mass and you want us all to pretend that it isn't coming elsewhere? That we can count on the rest of the Liberals and Democrats to stop it?
Dream on.
 
well from a parent perspective of a very independent thinking 3.5yo boy.. their needs to be a difference in the way i discipline him for.. not behaving at the dinner table... time out.. to running into the street.. spanking

i should not be committing a crime in doing this.
 
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