Dutch Uncle
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Trump was a political bull in a china shop. All puns intended.
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Trump was a political bull in a china shop. All puns intended.
evince
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Will you heil Trump doggie?
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Taft2016
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I've been to Taiwan a few times. Alongside the road you will see rounded single jet hangars with a fighter plane inside. The roof is covered with grass so from above it will just look like a little hill.
Some roads are built to double as runways. Every now and then they stop traffic so a jet fighter can take off or land.
Normally bombing runways will neutralize an air force, but Taiwan has made its roads serviceable runways.
They have intelligence sources on the Mainland and can mine Taiwan's shores and coastal waters within 24 hours once they hear of a mobilization on the Mainland.
I flew commercial once from Taipei to Naha City in Okinawa. That was a 45 minute flight. I expect the US fighter jets on Okinawa can get to Taiwan in half that time.
I've been to the Mainland several times as well and the general population has a genuine hostility towards Taiwan. Mainlanders have an inferiority complex that needs mending and a success in Taiwan may be the remedy.
Some roads are built to double as runways. Every now and then they stop traffic so a jet fighter can take off or land.
Normally bombing runways will neutralize an air force, but Taiwan has made its roads serviceable runways.
They have intelligence sources on the Mainland and can mine Taiwan's shores and coastal waters within 24 hours once they hear of a mobilization on the Mainland.
I flew commercial once from Taipei to Naha City in Okinawa. That was a 45 minute flight. I expect the US fighter jets on Okinawa can get to Taiwan in half that time.
I've been to the Mainland several times as well and the general population has a genuine hostility towards Taiwan. Mainlanders have an inferiority complex that needs mending and a success in Taiwan may be the remedy.
evince
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Geeko Sportivo
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This is a very interesting thread when it comes to Trumpper fantasyland. They live in the world of future predictions, because the past and present have too many facts for their world view to fit in, and because we forget their predictions later.
Another one.
serendipity
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Stick to ambulance chasing, you know fuck all about the Far East.
serendipity
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Twat!
Dutch Uncle
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Zero. They'll simply buy Taiwan in another 20 years. Most of this saber rattling is simply "sphere of influence" BS; the Chinese want it all and would like the US to leave.
serendipity
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Hey genius what exactly could the West do to save Hong Kong? China can cut off all utilities and bring the territory to its knees in a matter of days ffs.
serendipity
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Turd eating is your forte, Kalifornicator.
The alt right claims that trump is a miracle worker... And then when his actual record is pointed out, we hear how powerless he was to do anything.
trump could have supported the freedom movement, rather than helping China round them up. It would not have guaranteed complete success, but the world would be a slightly better place now.
Geeko Sportivo
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Not much anyone could do about Hong Kong. Hong Kong was governing itself as a SAR and it fell apart Democratically! The land belonged to China.
Taiwan operates as a Province of China with their own Constitution, currency, Military, A multi-party Democracy State, where the people vote for their leaders.
While the United States is thousands of miles from Taiwan, the island’s fate will have major implications for U.S. security and prosperity. What happens in the Taiwan Strait will also bear on fundamental questions of international order and the future of democracy. Our recent Council on Foreign Relations-sponsored Independent Task Force Report, U.S.-Taiwan Relations in a New Era: Responding to a More Assertive China, explains that the United States has vital strategic interests at stake in the Taiwan Strait and examines how the United States should protect these interests.
Xi wants Taiwan back under his Dictatorship, or, let's just put it this way- The Republic Of China wants Taiwan back under their dictatorship, but at least Xi knows what is at risk in taking it by force, and that is the only way the China mainland is going to get it. And they know they know fully well they would have to come through the US and the Allied Nations first, to accomplish that!
So, Xi is between a rock and a very hard place, and he knows better than starting a war with the United States and other major Democratic Countries around the world who considers Taiwan a Democratic partner in the world and an ally!
Xi realizes that the allied Democratic nations of the world is a large part of his GNP AND GDP and all that would be gone in a flash, if he had any kind of a conflict that would surely come if he invaded Taiwan.
Xi is not really our main concern, our main concern is that his own Parliament or Military could overthrow him in a minute with a Malevolent mind of their very own!
We have Xi over a barrel- But not his Parliament and certainly not his military! And this is a huge concern for our military, Congress, Administration, and State Department of the US and all the Democratic Nations of the world!
We trust Xi, but the allied nations do not trust his military or parliament in the very least!
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serendipity
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[FONT=cnn_sans_display]Protesters celebrate a victory after Trump signs Hong Kong human rights act
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Protesters in Hong Kong will hold a celebratory, pro-US rally Thursday after President Donald Trump gave them what one prominent activist termed a “timely Thanksgiving present.”
Trump signed an act in support of the protest movement
despite a potential backlash from Beijing that could derail delicate US-China trade talks, after it was passed almost unanimously by both houses of Congress.
A pro-democracy protester holds up a US flag during a gathering of thanks at Edinburgh Place in Hong Kong's Central district.
Anti-government protesters in the semi-autonomous Chinese city have long campaigned in favor of the bill – which would permit Washington to impose sanctions or even suspend Hong Kong’s special trading status over rights violations. Trump’s decision to sign the act gives the movement a second major symbolic victory in a matter of days.On Sunday, pro-democracy candidates scored a landslide victory in district council elections, framed as a de-facto referendum on the protest movement, which began in June in opposition to a controversial extradition bill but has grown to include demands for greater democratic freedoms and inquiries into alleged police brutality.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/28/asia/hong-kong-reaction-trump-legislation-intl-hnk/index.html
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serendipity
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See you can do it when you want to, however must point out that Taiwan has never been a province of China.
T. A. Gardner
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See you can do it when you want to, however must point out that Taiwan has never been a province of China.
Do you mean that Taiwan was never a province of the People's Republic of China? Because it was a province in Imperial China, and is technically the last remaining province of the Republic of China, so it is hard to say Taiwan was never a province in China.
Taiwan was a bit unified with Mainland China for a couple of years 75 years ago. Before that, it was last unified with Mainland China 128 years ago. And the people do not want to be unified with the People's Republic of China. It is time to just let them live separately.
The USA and UK have a historical link, and the same language(more or less), but we do not need to be forcibly reunified. It would be a bad thing for either Ukraine or Taiwan to be forcibly reunified.