Teddy Roosevelt, Nixon, Bill and Hillary Clinton... All Failed

Hell, lets get Jeb to run, maybe in another 8 years we can get Marijuana legalized and Improvements in Education!
 
Jarod said:
Short term gain for the Republicans, long term loss.

They overreached in the visoral reaction to this bill.
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I don't think it may even mean short term loses. Most Americans dont' even know what's in the bill. Democrats just need to go out and educate people as to what it contains and sell them on it's benefits. After having reviewed the bill, that shouldn't be hard to do.

Also, don't read to much into the polls about most Americans opposing this bill. Probably a third or more of the people who opposed this bill have done so because it doesn't go far enough.

I know quite a few people who opposed this bill because it did not contain a public option.

When you consider that this large percentage of those who opposed this bill because it doesn't go far enough are way farther to the left then the GOP position, the things don't look so bad for Dems.

This is one of those situations where if the Dems go out and sell the good points of this legislation along with their jobs bill and the withdrawl of foces from Iraq (both of which Republicans have opposed) they have some serious tool to use against Republicans and a year to do so and in politics, a year can be forever!
 
Cypress said:
I actually think that the lion's share of the credit goes to Pelosi. I seem to remember that when Scott Brown won in Mass, the white house was totally cowering and saying that it wanted to jettison the bill and perhaps only do something on a much smaller scale. And my recollection is that is was Pelosi who said "fuck that", and went balls-to-the-wall to get this sh*t done.

I will concur to the fact that the nations first woman Speaker and the nation's first black president got this sh*t done probably makes the racist teabagger's heads explode.
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You may have a point there. This is historic but, as with the civil rights legislation, it's just a beginning.

That's the main reason I supported it. I was not happy at all that this bill did not include a public option because we won't truly have reform until there is a public option. However, you have to start somewhere and a less then perfect bill was better than no bill at all and having to waint another 10 to 20 years to try again.
 
Republicans were for Health Care for all, before they were against it...

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/money/...n-from-gop-460310.html?cxtype=rss_money_16350

WASHINGTON — Republicans were for President Barack Obama's requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it.
The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.

Mitt Romney, weighing another run for the GOP presidential nomination, signed such a requirement into law at the state level as Massachusetts governor in 2006. At the time, Romney defended it as "a personal responsibility principle" and Massachusetts' newest GOP senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama's plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed.
 
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