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Ten Commandments monument installed at Arkansas Capitol

Workers installed a Ten Commandments monument outside Arkansas' Capitol on Tuesday, two years after lawmakers approved a measure permitting the privately funded statue on state grounds.

The 6-foot-tall (1.8-meter-tall), 6,000-pound (2,721-kilogram) monument was installed on the southwest lawn of the Capitol with little fanfare and no advance notice.

A 2015 law required the state to allow the display near the Capitol, and a state panel last month gave final approval to its design and location.

"We have a beautiful Capitol grounds but we did not have a monument that actually honored the historical, moral foundation of law," Republican Sen. Jason Rapert, who sponsored the measure requiring the monument's installation, said.

The American Civil Liberties Union said it plans to file a lawsuit in federal court challenging the display, calling it an unconstitutional endorsement of religion by the state. The group said it did not have a timeline for filing the lawsuit.

"Whatever they may say, the defenders of the Ten Commandments monument, the fact is the text of the Ten Commandments cannot be separated from its religious significance as the text calls individuals to adhere to moral precepts and uniquely religious obligations," Rita Sklar, executive director of the ACLU of Arkansas, said.

Plans for Arkansas' monument sparked a push by the Satanic Temple for a competing statue of Baphomet, a goat-headed, angel-winged creature accompanied by two children smiling at it. Efforts to install that display, however, were blocked by a law enacted this year requiring legislative approval before the commission could consider a monument proposal. The Satanic Temple has vowed a lawsuit over the measure, and said it didn't believe the law should be applied retroactively to its proposal.

Arkansas' monument is a replica of a display at the Texas Capitol that was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2005. The court that year struck down Ten Commandments displays in two Kentucky courthouses. The Oklahoma Supreme Court ordered the removal of a Ten Commandments display from that state's Capitol in 2015, and the state's voters last year rejected an initiative aimed at allowing the monument to return.
 
I like the part of the Ten Commandments that advocates for the stoning of children who talk back to their parents. That will learn them.

 
PostmodernProphet said:
which of the Ten Commandments says stone children, child of God?......and remember, thou shalt not lie.....
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The full commandant requires both the decree and the punishment for violating it. Otherwise its just a suggestion.

Exodus 20:12 “Honour thy father and thy mother”.

Exodus 21:15-17 “And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death”.

Exodus 21:17 “And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death”.
 
Amadeus said:
I like the part of the Ten Commandments that advocates for the stoning of children who talk back to their parents. That will learn them.

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So like most disingenuous individuals, you have just decided to base your comments on the OT and ignore the reformation.

How intelligent of you.
 
Amadeus said:
The full commandant requires both the decree and the punishment for violating it. Otherwise its just a suggestion.
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your post suggests either ignorance or dishonesty.......only the latter is a violation of the Ten Commandments.......

out of curiosity, do you know the purpose of the Ten Commandments?......its specifically stated in Deuteronomy so I'm sure you've seen it......
 
And this is how the liberal left behave, when they don't get their way.

Why one man keeps ramming his car into Ten Commandments statues on government property

In the video, the Arkansas Capitol dome can be seen lit against the night sky as the Dodge Dart accelerates to 10, then 20 mph.

Oh my goodness,” a man says as he flicks on the car’s lights. “Freedom!”

The vehicle speeds up the hill, and the last thing that comes into view before a crash is a large, newly installed monument.

Authorities say the man in the video is Michael Tate Reed, an alleged serial destroyer of Ten Commandments monuments.

He was arrested by state capitol police officers at the scene early Wednesday, according to Chris Powell, a spokesman for the Arkansas secretary of state. Reed is charged with criminal trespass, first-degree criminal mischief and defacing objects of public interest.

That object of public interest was a three-ton granite monument that had been installed less than 24 hours before its violent, pre-dawn demise on the southwest lawn of the state capitol in Little Rock.

Crews had cleaned up the crash site by late Wednesday morning and taken the broken pieces to storage, Powell said, but it was unclear whether*the controversial monument would be reinstalled.

Reed could not be reached for comment. Powell told The Washington Post he wasn’t sure whether Reed had been released from jail.

According to the Associated Press, a*2015 law required Arkansas to allow the Ten Commandments display near the capitol. But groups who argue for a strong separation of church and state have criticized the placement of a biblical statue on the grounds of the seat of the state’s government.

After plans for the Ten Commandments monument were announced, the satanic temple pushed for a competing statue of Baphomet, a goat-headed, angel-winged creature accompanied by two children smiling at it, the AP reported.

Other states have grappled with similar Ten Commandments controversies, including Oklahoma, which installed a 4,800-pound monument on its capitol grounds in 2012.

In 2014, Reed rammed a car into that monument, Powell said. But it was replaced and stood on the capitol grounds until the state Supreme Court ruled it had to be removed, according to The Washington Post’s Abby Phillip.

According to the Tulsa World, a judge ordered Reed to receive mental health treatment after that incident. He was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder and released under an agreement that required him to continue treatment.

He sent a rambling letter to the newspaper apologizing and describing the voices in his head and his attempts to recover from mental health issues.

He also detailed one incident where voices told him to crash*his car into other vehicles, but instead he wrecked on a highway median. In the past, he’s walked into federal buildings to spit on portraits, made threats against former president Barack Obama and set money on fire, according to the World.

Reed appears to allude to the Oklahoma toppling incident in a Facebook post before the Arkansas statue was rammed.

“I’m a firm believer that for our salvation we not only have faith in Jesus Christ, but we also obey the commands of God and that we confess Jesus as Lord,” he says in the post. “But one thing I do not support is the violation of our constitutional right to have the freedom that’s guaranteed to us, that guarantees us the separation of church and state, because no one religion should the government represent.”

Later, he says he’s “back at it again,” and asks for people to donate money to help repair his car.

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Maybe the DNC will run him as their next Presidential candidate, for 2020.
 
Guy makes a post about Old Testament decrees, then blames liberals because they bring up the Old Testament.

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PostmodernProphet said:
it's an excellent basis for our moral code........
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Except for the ones which don't relate to morality. Which is actually only four of the ten. At least three out of those four Trump himself has engaged in.


You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make idols.
You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Was there any reference on there, about people being stoned or are you one of those "all encompassing" individuals.
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The method of death is typically stoning in the Bible, and Deuteronomy actually references stoning.

18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
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