Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

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SmarterThanYou said:
WTF?!?!?!?!?! do you normally spout off about shit you know nothing about?

http://www.desertusa.com/june96/coyotes_and_people.html
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OK, I'll restate. An adult human going for a jog in a rural area is has such an extraordinarily miniscule chance of being attacked by a coyote that one would have to be the biggest paranoid freak to justify bringing a gun along for a jog to defend against the remotest of remote chances that an attack will occur.
 
NigelTufnel said:
OK, I'll restate. An adult human going for a jog in a rural area is has such an extraordinarily miniscule chance of being attacked by a coyote that one would have to be the biggest paranoid freak to justify bringing a gun along for a jog to defend against the remotest of remote chances that an attack will occur.
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knowing what I know about our governor, my guess is he wasn't carrying a .380 to ward off 4 legged predators, but 2 legged predators. The coyote just made a really bad choice is all.

and it's not paranoid to jog with a gun because you MIGHT get attacked by a coyote....if you ACTUALLY get attacked by a coyote.
 
NigelTufnel said:
OK, I'll restate. An adult human going for a jog in a rural area is has such an extraordinarily miniscule chance of being attacked by a coyote that one would have to be the biggest paranoid freak to justify bringing a gun along for a jog to defend against the remotest of remote chances that an attack will occur.
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See, I don't really think it is about the coyote at all with most folks protesting this. It is about the gun. I don't even think about it when I put my gun on in the morning. It's just like putting my wallet in my pocket or whatever. Second nature. Maybe it's that way for the gov? Doubt it but who knows.
 
Anyway, currently in CO, in many of the cities roving bands of coyotes are wreaking havoc and killing pets. Shooting them is about the only way to do anything about it.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
knowing what I know about our governor, my guess is he wasn't carrying a .380 to ward off 4 legged predators, but 2 legged predators. The coyote just made a really bad choice is all.

and it's not paranoid to jog with a gun because you MIGHT get attacked by a coyote....if you ACTUALLY get attacked by a coyote.
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He wasn't attacked by a coyote. He crossed paths with a coyote.


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NigelTufnel said:
He wasn't attacked by a coyote. He crossed paths with a coyote.
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I'll rephrase.......his puppy was menaced....which could mean anything i guess, but since he stuck around long enough for the gov to stop, pull out his concealed handgun, aim, then shoot....i'm guessing the coyote at least considered the dog a fine meal.
 
NigelTufnel said:
Obviously, you're kind of an idiot. I mean, if you feel compelled to carry a gun around out of fear of coyotes aren't you kind of letting the coyotes dictate your life to you? And what's the big deal with jogging sans dog?
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Dogs need exercise too. It is good for them. Again, to carry the gun is ensuring the dog is protected. Not a big deal to do that. Carrying something extra on the jog... you still accomplish your goal. Thus, doing so does not change your plans. Leaving the dog at home does change your plans.

I understand the freedom-loving macho male American ideal of exercising the freedom to do whatever the fuck I want and to shoot coyotes if they fuck with me or my dog - 'cause fuck yeah my gun is fuckin sweet, but isn't the somewhat wiser course of action to just kind of avoid the situation where possible.
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Like I said... clearly you have never had to deal with coyotes. Because for 99% of the people the above is not the case.

And, no, I haven't had to "deal with" coyotes. Generally, they don't bother me or my dog and I don't bother them.
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Then the coyotes are not as aggressive where you live. Here they snatch small animals out of peoples yards. If it was just ONE coyote at a time, not a big deal and wouldn't need a gun. But rarely are they alone, they tend to run in packs.
 
WinterBorn said:
AUSTIN, Texas – Pistol-packing Texas Gov. Rick Perry has a message for wily coyotes out there: Don't mess with my dog.

Perry told The Associated Press on Tuesday he needed just one shot from the laser-sighted pistol he sometimes carries while jogging to take down a coyote that menaced his puppy during a February run near Austin.

Perry said he will carry his .380 Ruger — loaded with hollow-point bullets — when jogging on trails because he is afraid of snakes. He'd also seen coyotes in the undeveloped area.

When one came out of the brush toward his daughter's Labrador retriever, Perry charged.

"Don't attack my dog or you might get shot ... if you're a coyote," he said Tuesday.

Perry, a Republican running for a third full term against Democrat Bill White, is living in a private house in a hilly area southwest of downtown Austin while the Governor's Mansion is being repaired after a 2008 fire. A concealed handgun permit holder, Perry carries the pistol in a belt.

"I knew there were a lot of predators out there. You'll hear a pack of coyotes. People are losing small cats and dogs all the time out there in that community," Perry said.

"They're very wily creatures."

On this particular morning, Perry said, he was jogging without his security detail shortly after sunrise.

"I'm enjoying the run when something catches my eye and it's this coyote. I know he knows I'm there. He never looks at me, he is laser-locked on that dog," Perry said.

"I holler and the coyote stopped. I holler again. By this time I had taken my weapon out and charged it. It is now staring dead at me. Either me or the dog are in imminent danger. I did the appropriate thing and sent it to where coyotes go," he said.

Perry said the laser-pointer helped make a quick, clean kill.

"It was not in a lot of pain," he said. "It pretty much went down at that particular juncture."

Texas state law allows people to shoot coyotes that are threatening livestock or domestic animals. The dog was unharmed, Perry said.

Perry's security detail was not required to file a report about the governor discharging a weapon, said Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange.

"People shoot coyotes all the time, snakes all the time," Mange said. "We don't write reports."

The governor left the coyote where it fell.

"He became mulch," Perry said.




Well done, Gov.
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What the article left out; was that afterwards, in the distance, there was heard the following:

MEEP-MEEP ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
 
NigelTufnel said:
The choice is not between keeping a dog locked up and taking the dog jogging somewhere that it might be attacked by a coyote. All I am suggesting is that it might make more sense to leave the gun and the dog at home than to go jogging with the gun and the dog because there's a possibility of a coyote attack.

I'm not saying that the Governor was wrong to have shot the coyote. If I were in his situation I may have done the same thing. All, I'm suggesting is that it might make some sense to avoid the situation altogether. I don't think that's too crazy of an idea.
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So everyone in New York should keep their dogs indoors??

http://www.esf.edu/pubprog/brochure/coyote/coyote.htm
 
NigelTufnel said:
Maybe he should have left the puppy home if he knew coyotes were in the area. Maybe? I mean, I don't own a .380 Ruger with a laser sight and hollow-point bullets, but even if I did: (1) I wouldn't take it with me for a jog, (2) I wouldn't go jogging anywhere that I felt compelled to carry it; and, (3) I wouldn't go jogging with my dog if I felt the need to carry it to protect the dog from coyotes known to be in the area. But that's just me.
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So do you think if this was a Democrat governor you might feel differently?

:palm:

You are such a tool.
 
Damocles said:
Anyway, currently in CO, in many of the cities roving bands of coyotes are wreaking havoc and killing pets. Shooting them is about the only way to do anything about it.
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Many years ago, before a rock business moved into the area, I used to go rabbit hunting about 1 mile south of where I live.

I always carried my shotgun. for the rabbits, a .22 single action revolver with snake shot, for the snakes, and my semi-automatic, for feral dogs or feral humans.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
I'll rephrase.......his puppy was menaced....which could mean anything i guess, but since he stuck around long enough for the gov to stop, pull out his concealed handgun, aim, then shoot....i'm guessing the coyote at least considered the dog a fine meal.
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Dog be a fine meal. :cof1:
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Many years ago, before a rock business moved into the area, I used to go rabbit hunting about 1 mile south of where I live.

I always carried my shotgun. for the rabbits, a .22 single action revolver with snake shot, for the snakes, and my semi-automatic, for feral dogs or feral humans.
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This is the pupping season for coyotes. Smaller prey, like puppies, are prime targets for coyotes and they don't care much about them being on a leash. I don't know what the populations are in Texas, but I do know they are seeing way more of them in my area than they have in a very long time. When I go trail running, you can hear them shrieking across the canyons at dusk.

I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a coyote that was coming after my small dog if I had a gun.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Many years ago, before a rock business moved into the area, I used to go rabbit hunting about 1 mile south of where I live.

I always carried my shotgun. for the rabbits, a .22 single action revolver with snake shot, for the snakes, and my semi-automatic, for feral dogs or feral humans.
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I feed the wild rabbits. There's a family living under my garden shed. :)
 
Coyotes are a huge problem in my area. Even killed an old man who went to protect his dog late at night. Yeah, I'd have shot the coyote dead. Kudos to the governor for 1) protecting his dog, and 2) exercising his legal rights.
 
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