Thank God Biden got us out of Afghanistan.

Cypress said:
Republicans didn't even bother to try to make Afghanistan a significant campaign issue in 2022, because they knew the withdrawal was not a cluster fuck and fixating on it wouldn't resonate with voters.

A terrorist attack that killed 13 people is a tragedy. But it will go down as an asterisk in the history books and it is not a epic clusterfuck for the ages.
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Loss of American blood will never just be an asterisk. Their blood was shed because of the chaotic clusterfuck way the withdrawal was handled. The final withdrawal should have been from Bagram a much more defenseable airport. Biden got brave Americans needlessly killed.

WASHINGTON, June 30 (Reuters) - A U.S. State Department report on Friday criticized the handling of the 2021 evacuation from Afghanistan, saying decisions by President Joe Biden and his predecessor Donald Trump to withdraw troops had "serious consequences for the viability" and security of the former U.S.-backed government.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/state...n-evacuation-critical-biden-trump-2023-06-30/
 
ExpressLane said:
Nope. 2,500 total. And they all could live on Bagram. It is a little city. It would have been good to have an airport in that part of the world.
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America is in collapse, China is the new Master of the Universe....keeping Bagram would have only been temporary.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
America is in collapse, China is the new Master of the Universe....keeping Bagram would have only been temporary.
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China has lots of its own problems. The economy is hurting. Millions live in poverty. They overbuilt housing and it sits empty. China is not the master of its own universe.
 
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ExpressLane said:
Maybe but Biden did not leave on the terms Trump negotiated he just tucked tail and ran.
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LOL. The gift that keeps on giving


[FONT=var(--font-1)]The historic deal was always high-wire diplomacy, requiring a degree of trust in the Taliban as a potential peace partner and inked despite skepticism from war-weary Afghans who feared losing authority in any power-sharing agreement.[/FONT]
[FONT=var(--font-1)]“The Doha agreement was a very weak agreement, and the U.S. should have gained more concessions from the Taliban,” said Lisa Curtis, an Afghanistan expert who served during the Trump administration as the National Security Council’s senior director for South and Central Asia.[/FONT]
[FONT=var(--font-1)]She called it “wishful thinking” to believe that the Taliban might be interested in lasting peace. The resulting agreement, she said, was heavily weighted toward the Taliban, contributed to undermining Afghan President Ashraf Ghani — he fled the country Sunday and is now in the United Arab Emirates — and facilitated the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners without a commensurate concession from the Taliban.[/FONT]
[FONT=var(--font-1)]“They wanted U.S. forces out, and they wanted to take over the country militarily, and they believed that they could do that,” Curtis said of the Taliban. “That was just crystal clear.”[/FONT]
[FONT=var(--font-1)]The agreement called for the U.S. to bring down its forces to 8,600 from 13,000 over the following three to four months, with the remaining U.S. forces withdrawing in 14 months, or by May 1.[/FONT]
 
ExpressLane said:
Loss of American blood will never just be an asterisk. Their blood was shed because of the chaotic clusterfuck way the withdrawal was handled. The final withdrawal should have been from Bagram a much more defenseable airport. Biden got brave Americans needlessly killed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/state...n-evacuation-critical-biden-trump-2023-06-30/
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If the Afghanistan withdrawal were an epic clusterfuck, Republicans would have campaigned on it in 2022.

They didn't.

13 dead people is a tragedy. But the fact is, it's going to be an asterisk in the history books. Outside of this message board, I don't see anyone in real life talking about the Kabul airport terrorist attack.
 
Cypress said:
If the Afghanistan withdrawal were an epic clusterfuck, Republicans would have campaigned on it in 2022.

They didn't.

13 dead people is a tragedy. But the fact is, it's going to be an asterisk in the history books. Outside of this message board, I don't see anyone in real life talking about the Kabul airport terrorist attack.
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It was a tragedy, and even with thousands more troops there is no way to keep a lone terrorist in a large crowd from being successful
 
Althea said:
I believe we were behind schedule at the time Biden acted. The Taliban promised not to attack our troops if trump surrendered.

They were beginning to make threats when we got the last people out.

The shame is that Biden told any U.S citizens to vacate Afg. months earlier. Many dragged their feet, and ended up trapped in country.
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In August 2021, MAGAs on this message board practically guaranteed that Americans would be kidnapped and beheaded.

Fox had them believing all kinds of nightmare scenarios which never actually happened.
 
Cypress said:
If the Afghanistan withdrawal were an epic clusterfuck, Republicans would have campaigned on it in 2022.

They didn't.

13 dead people is a tragedy. But the fact is, it's going to be an asterisk in the history books. Outside of this message board, I don't see anyone in real life talking about the Kabul airport terrorist attack.
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It was gigantic CF. But there are so many other CF with the Democrat party.
 
ExpressLane said:
It was gigantic CF. But there are so many other CF with the Democrat party.
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Fox ordered you to believe it was an epic clusterfuck for the ages.

The real world proof of whether or not it was an epic clusterfuck is if Republicans latched onto it as a major 2022 campaign issue.

They didn't.
 
Cypress said:
If the Afghanistan withdrawal were an epic clusterfuck, Republicans would have campaigned on it in 2022.

They didn't.

13 dead people is a tragedy. But the fact is, it's going to be an asterisk in the history books. Outside of this message board, I don't see anyone in real life talking about the Kabul airport terrorist attack.
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I thought it was an asterisk. *
 
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