thank you angle and o'donnel

PostmodernProphet said:
don't underestimate the possibility that some blue dogs would prefer to caucus with the Republicans........
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No one who won as a dem and remains a dem in the senate will caucus with the Repubs. That being said, I KNOW Damo remembers Ben Nighthorse Campbell. I am wondering how many back room deals are being brokered right now with Bluedogs to switch parties. Would not be the first time it has happened.
 
I'm not Witchypoo got her as KICKED in Delaware, Angle made it a race. Dems need to look around at the seats lost in the Senate. Russ Feingold is gone! How bad does your party have to be perceived to lose Russ Feingold? Bad day at blackrock for the Dems. Now lets sit around and watch very little get done for the next 2 years.
 
Had they won in Nevada or Delaware or even Alaska a deal to move a Democrat into the Republican collum would be likely, but I doubt they can get enough to make a difference. Plus, the Republicans likely dont want the Senate.... Too much power, with an inability to produce makes one accountable.
 
Socrtease said:
I am wondering how many back room deals are being brokered right now with Bluedogs to switch parties. Would not be the first time it has happened.
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I was thinking the same thing.

The way things are right now, I wouldn't be surprised to see some dems voting with the reps. At least some of the ones that have elections coming up in two years.
 
Socrtease said:
I'm not Witchypoo got her as KICKED in Delaware, Angle made it a race. Dems need to look around at the seats lost in the Senate. Russ Feingold is gone! How bad does your party have to be perceived to lose Russ Feingold? Bad day at blackrock for the Dems. Now lets sit around and watch very little get done for the next 2 years.
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If Obamacare gets the thumbs down from the courts, much of the last two years will be for nothing.

I wish they all would go on vacation if they aren't going to start repealing some things.
 
Jarod said:
Had they won in Nevada or Delaware or even Alaska a deal to move a Democrat into the Republican collum would be likely, but I doubt they can get enough to make a difference. Plus, the Republicans likely dont want the Senate.... Too much power, with an inability to produce makes one accountable.
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Good point.
 
Socrtease said:
I'm not Witchypoo got her as KICKED in Delaware, Angle made it a race. Dems need to look around at the seats lost in the Senate. Russ Feingold is gone! How bad does your party have to be perceived to lose Russ Feingold? Bad day at blackrock for the Dems. Now lets sit around and watch very little get done for the next 2 years.
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Feingold's loss was mostly about money. Feingold rejected all soft money, placed a cap on his fundraising, and requrested that several lobbying groups (including the AFL-CIO) not run pro-Feingold ads. His opponent spent 8 million dollars of his wifes money. Feingold was naive.

If Bennet can win in Colorado, Feingold's loss wasn't about the Democratic brand name.
 
As it stands the Republicans would need to switch four Democrats to flip the senate. It may have been feasible if the Democrats had 51 seats, but they retained a bit more than expected.
 
Socrtease said:
I'm not Witchypoo got her as KICKED in Delaware, Angle made it a race. Dems need to look around at the seats lost in the Senate. Russ Feingold is gone! How bad does your party have to be perceived to lose Russ Feingold? Bad day at blackrock for the Dems. Now lets sit around and watch very little get done for the next 2 years.
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Dems should hear the message loud and clear. Obama worked on a lot of agenda items that he campaigned on over his first two years. Unfortunately it was percieved that he wasn't focusing as much as he should have on cleaning up the Bush economic crash/recession. The administration needs to clearly make the next two years almost solely about creating jobs and they know it. The problem for Repubs now, is they can no longer play "The Boni" to Obama's "Ceaser". They actually have to govern now instead of obstruct and if they continue to obstruct from the house and the economy continues to stagnate, the'll pay the price for that.

My mind is still shaking in disbelief. I mean I can understand why people would be unhappy with the rate of progress on the economy but why the hell would you vote for the people who got us into this mess in the first place? It's beyond stupid.
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
don't underestimate the possibility that some blue dogs would prefer to caucus with the Republicans........
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The history for Senators who switch parties after an election is not good and is a strong deterent for them to make such a switch. The main reason being, they lose their senority and their new party ussually shuffles them the least significant committees and they usually pay a pretty hard price in the next election cycles. Unless the administration or Senate leaders go out of it's way to harsly punish dissenting Democrats, as Bush did with Jeffords, then it's probably not going to happen. The incentives just aren't there.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Dems should hear the message loud and clear. Obama worked on a lot of agenda items that he campaigned on over his first two years. Unfortunately it was percieved that he wasn't focusing as much as he should have on cleaning up the Bush economic crash/recession. The administration needs to clearly make the next two years almost solely about creating jobs and they know it. The problem for Repubs now, is they can no longer play "The Boni" to Obama's "Ceaser". They actually have to govern now instead of obstruct and if they continue to obstruct from the house and the economy continues to stagnate, the'll pay the price for that.

My mind is still shaking in disbelief. I mean I can understand why people would be unhappy with the rate of progress on the economy but why the hell would you vote for the people who got us into this mess in the first place? It's beyond stupid.
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the people didn't vote for the same people that 'got us in to this mess'. in case you didn't notice, alot of incumbents lost their jobs last night. new blood is in the pool. we the people expect a new direction for the country now and it's up to Obama to go along with the new direction or lose badly in 2012.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Dems should hear the message loud and clear. Obama worked on a lot of agenda items that he campaigned on over his first two years. Unfortunately it was percieved that he wasn't focusing as much as he should have on cleaning up the Bush economic crash/recession. The administration needs to clearly make the next two years almost solely about creating jobs and they know it. The problem for Repubs now, is they can no longer play "The Boni" to Obama's "Ceaser". They actually have to govern now instead of obstruct and if they continue to obstruct from the house and the economy continues to stagnate, the'll pay the price for that.

My mind is still shaking in disbelief. I mean I can understand why people would be unhappy with the rate of progress on the economy but why the hell would you vote for the people who got us into this mess in the first place? It's beyond stupid.
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I was thinking about that yesterday. I understand why people are unhappy with the economy, but the idea that any plan would have us humming along today after the depth of the crash we went through is strange.

Still, people vote their wallet. By & large, I don't think most spend a lot of time on the nuances of policy and realistic timeframes for a full recovery....
 
Watermarx said:
As it stands the Republicans would need to switch four Democrats to flip the senate. It may have been feasible if the Democrats had 51 seats, but they retained a bit more than expected.
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how do you know they won't have 51 seats......Colorado has as many absentee ballots remaining to count as the Dem has a lead.....Washington is only 22k votes apart and no matter what you say the Dems won't caucus Alaska.....so they either have 51-52-or 53......
 
the voter turnout has shown that the people are not as stupid as the democrats thought they would be. They see the writing on the wall and how the economy is going to get worse because of the last 4 years of spending policies. They want that changed. The people have realized that, just like FDR policy extended the depression, that the last 4 years are going to extend this recession. The turnover in the house is a way to lessen that to some degree.

Face it career pols, if we the people have to sacrifice to survive, so now will you.
 
Socrtease said:
I'm not Witchypoo got her as KICKED in Delaware, Angle made it a race. Dems need to look around at the seats lost in the Senate. Russ Feingold is gone! How bad does your party have to be perceived to lose Russ Feingold? Bad day at blackrock for the Dems. Now lets sit around and watch very little get done for the next 2 years.
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Nevada has the highest foreclosure rate, highest bankruptcy rate, and highest unemployment rate and Harry Reid still won. It really shouldn't have been a contest.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Dems should hear the message loud and clear. Obama worked on a lot of agenda items that he campaigned on over his first two years. Unfortunately it was percieved that he wasn't focusing as much as he should have on cleaning up the Bush economic crash/recession. The administration needs to clearly make the next two years almost solely about creating jobs and they know it. The problem for Repubs now, is they can no longer play "The Boni" to Obama's "Ceaser". They actually have to govern now instead of obstruct and if they continue to obstruct from the house and the economy continues to stagnate, the'll pay the price for that.
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How are we supposed to focus on creating jobs without spending? The Republicans are just going to ask for tax cuts for the rich which will do nothing to create jobs. That's basically the only thing the Democrats will be able to do fiscally until 2012.

Mott the Hoople said:
My mind is still shaking in disbelief. I mean I can understand why people would be unhappy with the rate of progress on the economy but why the hell would you vote for the people who got us into this mess in the first place? It's beyond stupid.
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We've been predicting this for a few months. Did you just have your head in the ground?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
the voter turnout has shown that the people are not as stupid as the democrats thought they would be. They see the writing on the wall and how the economy is going to get worse because of the last 4 years of spending policies. They want that changed. The people have realized that, just like FDR policy extended the depression, that the last 4 years are going to extend this recession. The turnover in the house is a way to lessen that to some degree.

Face it career pols, if we the people have to sacrifice to survive, so now will you.
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How the hell is spending going to make the economy worse? Notice how many times you've taken out a loan and it's reduced the amount of stuff you have? Never?

Taking on a loan hurts you in the future, not immediately. You're just an idiot.
 
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