The 4 types of democracy

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Key Democratic Principles

The word ‘democracy’ has its origins in the Greek language. It combines two shorter words: ‘demos’ meaning whole citizen living within a particular city-state and ‘kratos’ meaning power or rule.

It is generally agreed that liberal democracies are based on four main principles:

  1. A belief in the individual: since the individual is believed to be both moral and rational;
  2. A belief in reason and progress: based on the belief that growth and development is the natural condition of mankind and politics the art of compromise;
  3. A belief in a society that is consensual: based on a desire for order and co-operation not disorder and conflict;
  4. A belief in shared power: based on a suspicion of concentrated power (whether by individuals, groups or governments).

Direct democracy

In a direct democracy, such as ancient Athens, all citizens (only adult males who had completed their military training; women, slaves and plebs were not citizens) are invited to participate in all political decisions. This form of democracy is no longer practiced. In this form of democracy citizens are continuously involved in the exercise of power and decision is by majority rule.

Representative democracy

In a representative democracy, representatives are elected by the people and entrusted to carry out the business of governance. Australia is a representative democracy.

Constitutional democracy

In a constitutional democracy a constitution outlines who will represent the people and how. Australia is also a constitutional democracy.

Monitory democracy

Political scientist John Keane suggests that a new form of democracy is evolving in which government is constantly monitored in its exercise of power by a vast array of public and private agencies, commissions and regulatory mechanisms. See Life and Death of Democracy by John Keane, published by Simon and Schuster UK in 2009.

Source: https://www.moadoph.gov.au/democracy/defining-democracy/#

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AProudLefty said:
Key Democratic Principles

The word ‘democracy’ has its origins in the Greek language. It combines two shorter words: ‘demos’ meaning whole citizen living within a particular city-state and ‘kratos’ meaning power or rule.

It is generally agreed that liberal democracies are based on four main principles:

  1. A belief in the individual: since the individual is believed to be both moral and rational;
  2. A belief in reason and progress: based on the belief that growth and development is the natural condition of mankind and politics the art of compromise;
  3. A belief in a society that is consensual: based on a desire for order and co-operation not disorder and conflict;
  4. A belief in shared power: based on a suspicion of concentrated power (whether by individuals, groups or governments).

Direct democracy

In a direct democracy, such as ancient Athens, all citizens (only adult males who had completed their military training; women, slaves and plebs were not citizens) are invited to participate in all political decisions. This form of democracy is no longer practiced. In this form of democracy citizens are continuously involved in the exercise of power and decision is by majority rule.

Representative democracy

In a representative democracy, representatives are elected by the people and entrusted to carry out the business of governance. Australia is a representative democracy.

Constitutional democracy

In a constitutional democracy a constitution outlines who will represent the people and how. Australia is also a constitutional democracy.

Monitory democracy

Political scientist John Keane suggests that a new form of democracy is evolving in which government is constantly monitored in its exercise of power by a vast array of public and private agencies, commissions and regulatory mechanisms. See Life and Death of Democracy by John Keane, published by Simon and Schuster UK in 2009.

Source: https://www.moadoph.gov.au/democracy/defining-democracy/#

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1. Democrats believe in group think as evidenced by Brandon claiming black people ain't black if they don't support him

2. Dems dont compromise

3. BLM

4. Dems want nothing other than centralized control as evidence of by their desire to federalize elections.
 
Yakuda said:
1. Democrats believe in group think as evidenced by Brandon claiming black people ain't black if they don't support him

2. Dems dont compromise

3. BLM

4. Dems want nothing other than centralized control as evidence of by their desire to federalize elections.
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Boring.
 
AProudLefty said:
Key Democratic Principles

The word ‘democracy’ has its origins in the Greek language. It combines two shorter words: ‘demos’ meaning whole citizen living within a particular city-state and ‘kratos’ meaning power or rule.

It is generally agreed that liberal democracies are based on four main principles:

  1. A belief in the individual: since the individual is believed to be both moral and rational;
  2. A belief in reason and progress: based on the belief that growth and development is the natural condition of mankind and politics the art of compromise;
  3. A belief in a society that is consensual: based on a desire for order and co-operation not disorder and conflict;
  4. A belief in shared power: based on a suspicion of concentrated power (whether by individuals, groups or governments).
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1. The individual, in the case of Athens means the rich folks.
They discovered that these folks were neither moral or rational universally.
2. They got little accomplished as progress is not seen in the same terms universally
3. Sounds good on paper....
4. Good idea. And another reason they got little done. Of course gridlock DOES have it's advantages.
 
Celticguy said:
1. The individual, in the case of Athens means the rich folks.
They discovered that these folks were neither moral or rational universally.
2. They got little accomplished as progress is not seen in the same terms universally
3. Sounds good on paper....
4. Good idea. And another reason they got little done. Of course gridlock DOES have it's advantages.
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This is the second time I’ve seen that the only people who voted in Athens were the aristocrats, or rich, and not quite sure how one reaches that conclusion. I don’t think historians would have even pointed to Athens as the first real democracy if it was in fact just another plutocracy. And I won’t say it didn’t accomplish much given that Hellenic culture was the major current running thru the Hellenistic Civilization that defined the era

And compromise is the common denominator to any successful democracy, the U.S. Constitution is a bundle of compromises, and gridlock accomplishes nothing and can often lead to dire consequences, sixty years of inability to address the immigration issue has contributed to the problems we have today
 
AProudLefty said:
Key Democratic Principles

The word ‘democracy’ has its origins in the Greek language. It combines two shorter words: ‘demos’ meaning whole citizen living within a particular city-state and ‘kratos’ meaning power or rule.

It is generally agreed that liberal democracies are based on four main principles:

  1. A belief in the individual: since the individual is believed to be both moral and rational;
  2. A belief in reason and progress: based on the belief that growth and development is the natural condition of mankind and politics the art of compromise;
  3. A belief in a society that is consensual: based on a desire for order and co-operation not disorder and conflict;
  4. A belief in shared power: based on a suspicion of concentrated power (whether by individuals, groups or governments).

Direct democracy

In a direct democracy, such as ancient Athens, all citizens (only adult males who had completed their military training; women, slaves and plebs were not citizens) are invited to participate in all political decisions. This form of democracy is no longer practiced. In this form of democracy citizens are continuously involved in the exercise of power and decision is by majority rule.

Representative democracy

In a representative democracy, representatives are elected by the people and entrusted to carry out the business of governance. Australia is a representative democracy.

Constitutional democracy

In a constitutional democracy a constitution outlines who will represent the people and how. Australia is also a constitutional democracy.

Monitory democracy

Political scientist John Keane suggests that a new form of democracy is evolving in which government is constantly monitored in its exercise of power by a vast array of public and private agencies, commissions and regulatory mechanisms. See Life and Death of Democracy by John Keane, published by Simon and Schuster UK in 2009.

Source: https://www.moadoph.gov.au/democracy/defining-democracy/#

To The Bird Trio, you are most welcome for the free education.
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Semantics fallacies. There is no such thing as a 'representative democracy'. There is no such thing as a 'constitutional democracy'. There is no such thing as a 'monitory democracy'.

A democracy is government by popular vote. There is no constitution. There are no representatives. There are currently no democracies in the world today. A democracy is an unstable form of government.
Australia is not a democracy nor a republic. It currently is an oligarchy.
 
archives said:
This is the second time I’ve seen that the only people who voted in Athens were the aristocrats, or rich, and not quite sure how one reaches that conclusion. I don’t think historians would have even pointed to Athens as the first real democracy if it was in fact just another plutocracy. And I won’t say it didn’t accomplish much given that Hellenic culture was the major current running thru the Hellenistic Civilization that defined the era

And compromise is the common denominator to any successful democracy, the U.S. Constitution is a bundle of compromises, and gridlock accomplishes nothing and can often lead to dire consequences, sixty years of inability to address the immigration issue has contributed to the problems we have today
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The Athenians coined the term to describe the govt they opted to use.
Anyone who did not have a say was not considered a citizen.
 
Into the Night said:
Semantics fallacies. There is no such thing as a 'representative democracy'. There is no such thing as a 'constitutional democracy'. There is no such thing as a 'monitory democracy'.

A democracy is government by popular vote. There is no constitution. There are no representatives. There are currently no democracies in the world today. A democracy is an unstable form of government.
Australia is not a democracy nor a republic. It currently is an oligarchy.
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See folks?
 
Celticguy said:
The Athenians coined the term to describe the govt they opted to use.
Anyone who did not have a say was not considered a citizen.
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Democracies are unstable forms of government, usually dissolving into an oligarchy or dictatorship before long, as one faction gains majority. No constitution stops them. They become the 'elite' in the oligarchy or dictatorship that follows.

Athens became a dictatorship.
 
Into the Night said:
Democracies are unstable forms of government, usually dissolving into an oligarchy or dictatorship before long, as one faction gains majority. No constitution stops them. They become the 'elite' in the oligarchy or dictatorship that follows.

Athens became a dictatorship.
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All forms of govt are creations of either the oligarchy or those who seek to become the oligarchy (The Bolsheviks).

All that money and power just sitting there for the taking, it's no wonder that no governments are good.
 
Celticguy said:
All forms of govt are creations of either the oligarchy or those who seek to become the oligarchy (The Bolsheviks).

All that money and power just sitting there for the taking, it's no wonder that no governments are good.
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So how you going to get the garbage collected?
 
archives said:
So how you going to get the garbage collected?
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I pay the garbage man.

A better query would be 'how you going to get the streets paved' ?

Obviously there are certain functions that are best addressed by all inhabitants of a jurisdiction and we have constitutions and such to attempt to control fraud and abuse but when the oligarchs (or their proxies) are the ones drawing up those measures, it never goes well.

The love of money is the root of all evil. Not entirely all but a BIG chunk.
 
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