The Birth of Capitalism

[Lowaicue]

I do not intend to read everything in this thread, but it looks as if the bogey man of the moment is the middle man. Middle man? What the hell is that?
OK simple stuff now and short words.
Man makes good (sing of goods - not does well)
Man wants good.
Want man does not know where make man is.
Make man does not know where want man is.
Another man knows where both men are. He takes good from Make man to Want man.
He incurs a cost which he adds to the price of the good.
Taking man is middle man.
Middle man also takes other men's goods to want man.
Middle man makes some money, honest money. make man makes some money - honest money. Want man makes some money because he makes another good.
Dumb man discovers that the good that cost him $10.00 was made for only $3.00.
Dumb man blames middle man for profiteering and being a capitalist.
Middle man stops his service.
Make man starves to death.
Want man starves to death.
Dumb man starves to death.
No capitalism. Hoorah!

 

[wiseones2cents]

A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.
Napoleon Bonaparte

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Bodies fill the fields I see, Hungry heroes end
no one to play solider now, no one to pretend
running blind through killing fields, bred to kill them all
victim of what said should be
a servant 'til fall

Solider boy, made of clay
now an empty shell
twenty one, only son
but he served us well
bred to kill, not to care
do just as we say
finished here, greetings death
he's yours to take away

Back to the front
you will do what I say, when I say
back to the front
you will die when I say, you must die
back to the front
you coward
you servant
you blindman

Barking at machine gun fire, does nothing to me now
sounding of the clocks that ticks, get used to it somehow
more a man, more stripes you bare, glory seeker trends
bodies fill the fields I see
the slaughter never ends

Solider boy, made of clay
now an empty shell
twenty one, only son
but he served us well
bred to kill, not to care
do just as we say
finished here, greetings death
he's yours to take away

Back to the front
you will do what I say, when I say
back to the front
you will die when I say, you must die
back to the front
you coward
you servant
you blindman

why, am I dying?
kill, have no fear
lie, live for lying
hell, hell is here

I was born for dying

Life planned out before my birth, nothing could I say
had no chance to see myself, molded day by day
looking back I realize, nothing have I done
left to die with only friend
alone I clench My gun

Solider boy, made of clay
now an empty shell
twenty one, only son
but he served us well
bred to kill, not to care
do just as we say
finished here, greetings death
he's yours to take away

Back to the front
you will do what I say, when I say
back to the front
you will die when I say, you must die
back to the front
you coward
you servant
you blindman

Back to the front

 

[wiseones2cents]

I do not intend to read everything in this thread, but it looks as if the bogey man of the moment is the middle man. Middle man? What the hell is that?
OK simple stuff now and short words.
Man makes good (sing of goods - not does well)
Man wants good.
Want man does not know where make man is.
Make man does not know where want man is.
Another man knows where both men are. He takes good from Make man to Want man.
He incurs a cost which he adds to the price of the good.
Taking man is middle man.
Middle man also takes other men's goods to want man.
Middle man makes some money, honest money. make man makes some money - honest money. Want man makes some money because he makes another good.
Dumb man discovers that the good that cost him $10.00 was made for only $3.00.
Dumb man blames middle man for profiteering and being a capitalist.
Middle man stops his service.
Make man starves to death.
Want man starves to death.
Dumb man starves to death.
No capitalism. Hoorah!

If you do not intend to read at least my posts then you will not get another individuals perspective. You are only stuck with your perception that may be flawed.

Middlemen make money off the backs of others. The government can also connected the man of want, with the make man(Which would be the government in a socialist society.

Your analogy is laughable and flawed.

If middleman stopped his service? The want man would be able to go directly to the source and thus pay cheaper.

 

[Howey]

Glad to see we have a poster who lives up to his board name.

 

[wiseones2cents]

Glad to see we have a poster who lives up to his board name.

Thank you for the kind words.

 

[j-mac]

There is a solution to every problem.

In most cases there are multiple solutions to problems.

I understand human nature and I know disciplining it has lead to civilization.

You do eh? What, so you are a guru now?

Eventually we will head towards the stars and find new planets to inhabit.

Not with the dismantling of NASA and maned space travel we won't...So, what do ya say we stick to the here and now, before we all start hearing the opening music to Star Trek in our heads...?

In the meantime? Rather then the elites using wars for population control? We can either restrict population growth by restricting how many children a person can have. Like 2. Too many kids and not enough resources equals misery for many.

So you envision the Communist Chinese model of killing children at the mandate of the State as a solution? So, you value human life do you?

he Asians already represent more then 1/2 the world's population. And the East Indians represent 1/3 of the remaining population. Now that they are coming out west in droves and reproducing? They will dominate the world's demographics in a few decades....The Chinese have already passed the French in Canada and are now the second most common language spoken in Canada and my street is becoming dominantly Asian.....

Do you think that before we start killing our children, we could just have you move since you clearly have something against Asian's?

Transportation methods as we speak are reaching new heights.

Yeah, but with those solar panels, and windmills on them, they are going to travel really slow.....

As far as your food worries? We have enough land to feed the entire planet. Some are even saying by the year 2050, everyone will be a vegetarian because we wont be able to sustain the meat...

Who? Who is saying that dumb shit? The same people that in one decade they told us the earth was cooling and we were all going to starve/freeze to extinction, then in another decade tell us that the earth is burning up, and we are all going to starve/burn up?....pfft....Gimme a break.

As far as resources. We would have TRUE supply and demand. Not like today where supply is restricted to increase demand. I did a little study on the Boston Tea party and from what I understand? The capitalist middlemen were driving the prices up on tea which resulted in a huge Tea surplus. The British tried to remove the middlemen and sell directly to the public(socialist style) at a cheaper cost, thus justifying the tax imposed on tea. The Capitalist Middlemen got angry because they were squeezed out and rebelled. And used taxes as an excuse.

Ah, you did a little study did you? And you concluded that the whole problem was our separating ourselves from under the boot of tyranny eh?

Come on man, are you for real?

All I know is that the world is fooled by the perception imposed upon them by the elites that rule the world using many methods. Education, Media, ect....

"The elites that rule the world" eh? Who might that be? Builderburg's? Or some other conspiratorial dumb assery that is supposed to pass for impending doom?

I am here to destroy mis-perceptions like the rich pay more taxes. And that we need the rich to employ us.

So far, I don't see it from you...I can get the same drivel from the local pot head.

Trust me when I tell you I have analyzed the economic climate of the earth for years and have all me T's crossed and I's dotted. My plan would work and bring in a golden age never experienced by the human race.

Oh, trust you....Duh, ok....lol....Your plan eh? lol....Sounds like Mao had that plan a long time ago......heh, heh....

 

[Rune]

So you envision the Communist Chinese model of killing children at the mandate of the State as a solution? So, you value human life do you?

Why don't you start by providing proof of mandated child killing?
Pretty sure you are a bit confused here, but I will look at your proof.

 

[Rune]

"The elites that rule the world" eh? Who might that be? Builderburg's? Or some other conspiratorial dumb assery that is supposed to pass for impending doom?


Really? I knew you were a little slow, but you don't think we are ruled by elites? WTF are you talking about, retard?

All the presidents are related and desended from the royal family of Europe. Surely you are not that ignorant?

Even Mitt is a member of the royal family, as is anyone else who is allowed on the ballot. Fucking wake up shithead.

 

[j-mac]

Why don't you start by providing proof of mandated child killing?
Pretty sure you are a bit confused here, but I will look at your proof.

Take a look...

Introduced in 1979, the One-Child Policy is China’s population control program. It has been controversial because its enforcement has utilized coercive measures, including forced abortion and forced sterilization.

The Chinese Communist Party would have the world believe that it has relaxed its One-Child Policy. This is not true. The top population official in China recently announced that the Chinese Communist Party has no plans to change the One-Child Policy for at least another ten years.

http://www.womensrightswithoutfrontiers.org/index.php?nav=one_child_policy

I don't understand what is in dispute here Rune? This was the second hit on google, and it is well known China's barbaric policy. Is it just because I posted it? This idiotic call for links to every opinion someone offers is just plain dumb.

I understand you may be pro choice, and I pro life, but there are things that we both can accept as known facts without all the goose chasing isn't there?

 

[j-mac]

"The elites that rule the world" eh? Who might that be? Builderburg's? Or some other conspiratorial dumb assery that is supposed to pass for impending doom?


Really? I knew you were a little slow, but you don't think we are ruled by elites? WTF are you talking about, retard?

All the presidents are related and desended from the royal family of Europe. Surely you are not that ignorant?

Even Mitt is a member of the royal family, as is anyone else who is allowed on the ballot. Fucking wake up shithead.

Hmmmm...."Ignorant, Shithead, Retard"....Three absolutely stupid statements by you Rune, and three personal insults all in the same post...My how intellectual you are....hahahaha, NOT.

 

[Rune]

Take a look...



I don't understand what is in dispute here Rune? This was the second hit on google, and it is well known China's barbaric policy. Is it just because I posted it? This idiotic call for links to every opinion someone offers is just plain dumb.

I understand you may be pro choice, and I pro life, but there are things that we both can accept as known facts without all the goose chasing isn't there?

Prove mandated killing of live (born) children. You haven't come close yet.

No, it is not about you, it is about accuracy.

 

[Rune]

Hmmmm...."Ignorant, Shithead, Retard"....Three absolutely stupid statements by you Rune, and three personal insults all in the same post...My how intellectual you are....hahahaha, NOT.

Little late for you to not throw that stone.
Nice deflection.
Substance value; zero.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

I'm Back!

Everyone states that Capitalism began with the industrial revolution though that is not true. Where do its origins lie? Well the entire concept of capitalism is about(MIDDLE MEN). How did these middle men come to be? Well.......

Back in the day there were tribes. And the dominant Alpha Male would keep the peace in the clan. He would surround himself with the strongest to protect against invaders. And the tribes would honor the heroic elders and believe that his off spring would carry the same greatness(genes).

With the development of more sophisticated arms and construction? They would establish large Castles/Fortresses(for defensive purposes). When there territories need growth or resources, they would venture into another's territory leading to conflict(war). Either resulting in losing or gaining more territory. Eventually some of these tribal leaders became very powerful and had extensive land. These became Kings/Nations. Now to those of the original clan? They were given places of authority.The people of the conquered lands were usually oppressed so they wouldn't be able to rise up and free themselves of bondage(slavery to the King).

Therefore you have a King(making the bulk of the money sitting on his butt with his only qualification being his blood line). Then the king has to create positions for his family and friends. Thus he creates middle men(They were called nobles/merchants). They have to get payed too and don't expect the king to take from his own wealth. Therefore the cost of living goes up.

Secondly. You have a King in a Kingdom. He collects taxes to continue living his life of privilege and luxury. He has 5 Children. His land is divided. Taxes go up because now there are more royal mouths to feed. They have kids and they have kids and they have kids, all wanting to continue in the lives of luxury they have known. As they continue to divide the land, it gets more and more difficult to sustain their lives of luxury(especially for the ambitious). And in fighting begins. They then have to compete like criminals to maintain their kingdoms.

Today as long as you can make money for the top elites who are the monarchs of today(The top investment bankers of the world), you are given a slice of the pie, but not from their wealth. The cost is always passed down to the people.

Socialism eliminates the middle man, thus reducing cost, thus putting more money in your pocket to consume/buy more things. That in itself will create more jobs. They say the rich man helps the economy but what they really do is take food off our tables and put it on theirs for doing absolutely no work.

For the the temptation of sin to be defeated, we must take away its most effective tool to achieve sin. Great wealth.......That is why I do not support capitalism. Just look at the state of society. Greed, immorality, selfishness, violence are common. This is a sign of a corrupt rulership/society......

 

[canceled.2021.1]

There is a solution to every problem.

I understand human nature and I know disciplining it has lead to civilization.

Eventually we will head towards the stars and find new planets to inhabit. In the meantime? Rather then the elites using wars for population control? We can either restrict population growth by restricting how many children a person can have. Like 2. Too many kids and not enough resources equals misery for many.

The Asians already represent more then 1/2 the world's population. And the East Indians represent 1/3 of the remaining population. Now that they are coming out west in droves and reproducing? They will dominate the world's demographics in a few decades....The Chinese have already passed the French in Canada and are now the second most common language spoken in Canada and my street is becoming dominantly Asian.....

As far as resources. We would have TRUE supply and demand. Not like today where supply is restricted to increase demand. I did a little study on the Boston Tea party and from what I understand? The capitalist middlemen were driving the prices up on tea which resulted in a huge Tea surplus. The British tried to remove the middlemen and sell directly to the public(socialist style) at a cheaper cost, thus justifying the tax imposed on tea. The Capitalist Middlemen got angry because they were squeezed out and rebelled. And used taxes as an excuse.

Transportation methods as we speak are reaching new heights.

As far as your food worries? We have enough land to feed the entire planet. Some are even saying by the year 2050, everyone will be a vegetarian because we wont be able to sustain the meat, which is B.S.

All I know is that the world is fooled by the perception imposed upon them by the elites that rule the world using many methods. Education, Media, ect....

I am here to destroy mis-perceptions like the rich pay more taxes. And that we need the rich to employ us.

Trust me when I tell you I have analyzed the economic climate of the earth for years and have all me T's crossed and I's dotted. My plan would work and bring in a golden age never experienced by the human race.

Are you here to make me laugh? Because you are succeeding mightily

 

[j-mac]

Prove mandated killing of live (born) children. You haven't come close yet.

No, it is not about you, it is about accuracy.

Like I said, You are pro choice, I am pro life. You don't believe that a child is a child until it is born, I do. So, although you'd like to ascribe something to me which I never said, just so you can make some minor point, and ignore the larger argument is not my problem, it is yours.

Little late for you to not throw that stone.
Nice deflection.
Substance value; zero.

Oh, I get it. You hold grudges...So because we haven't gotten along you just can not post to someone without the pejoratives, and insults...Why don't you stop wasting your time and get out?

 

[Rune]

Like I said, You are pro choice, I am pro life. You don't believe that a child is a child until it is born, I do. So, although you'd like to ascribe something to me which I never said, just so you can make some minor point, and ignore the larger argument is not my problem, it is yours.?

Not that simple. Here is what you said;


So you envision the Communist Chinese model of killing children at the mandate of the State as a solution? So, you value human life do you?

Your links do not support what you said. There is no mandated killing of children in China. If you meant something else you should have used other words.

Children are not fetuses. Words have actual meanings. When you make up your own meanings for words, there can be no accuracy.

 

[Rune]

Oh, I get it. You hold grudges...So because we haven't gotten along you just can not post to someone without the pejoratives, and insults...Why don't you stop wasting your time and get out?

No, you don't get it.
You opened the door to the use of pejoratives by using them, especially against the women of the site. Too late for you conplain now.

By the way, I am not the one who is wasting my time here.

 

[Airstrip One]

If you do not intend to read at least my posts then you will not get another individuals perspective. You are only stuck with your perception that may be flawed.

Middlemen make money off the backs of others. The government can also connected the man of want, with the make man(Which would be the government in a socialist society.

Your analogy is laughable and flawed.

If middleman stopped his service? The want man would be able to go directly to the source and thus pay cheaper.

Uh, yeah, he can still do that now the ways things currently are. I recently have bought a lot of furnishings for my new house, and I always have the option to drive to the store (Sears, JCPenny, Walmart, etc.) or have them deliver it. I can't really transport these things without my friend volunteering his truck, so I have them delivered. I did manage to get a deal on a flat screen TV from Walmart which came with free delivery, so that was nice...