The comedy act that they call a tax cut.

Flash said:
Bad information. The upper income is the only group that pays a higher share of federal income taxes than their percentage of total income. All other groups pay less than their share of income.
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About half pay no share whatsoever.
 
Nordberg said:
Same logic used by righties to say global warming isn't real. It is cold today, therefore no warming. An incident does not prove or disprove a rule. Did they send you a check? If you buy your own health insurance it will go up. At least 10 percent,.- Subtract that from your theoretical 2500.
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Do you have proof anyone's insurance will go up?
 
Nordberg said:
The poor spend a greater percentage of their income in taxes than the wealthy. They pay city taxes, state taxes, sales taxes, and tax on everything they buy. It adds up. they do not escape taxes, just some of them federal.https://www.forbes.com/sites/beltwa...ederal-taxes-including-the-poor/#64136f192034 Most poor who don't pay are retired and do not work.
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In my state, if they don't pay federal income taxes, they don't pay state income taxes. In my state, there is no sales tax on groceries. In my state, no city has a separate income tax, but if they did, the poor wouldn't pay it anyway.

Most poor receive public assistance which means they aren't using their own money in the first place. If they're not paying because they're not working, perhaps they should get a job and quit demanding the rest of us fund their handouts.
 
Nordberg said:
Sure. Don't read much do you. https://www.aarp.org/politics-society/advocacy/info-2017/senate-tax-premiums-fd.html The tx bill will cost a lot of people money, who like you, think they are getting a break.
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from your article....

Premiums for 50-year-olds could increase by an average of $890, rising to $9,780 a year.
Premiums for 55-year-olds could increase by an average of $1,110, rising to $12,200 a year.
Premiums for 60-year-olds could increase by an average of $1,350, rising to $14,860 a year.
Premiums for 64-year-olds could increase by an average of $1,490, rising to $16,420 a year.
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when I was 64 my premiums were already over $16,420 a year.....the author of your source is obviously just making up random numbers......

and another thing, I can remember when it was bragged that Obamacare would not allow rates to be set based on age.......you 50 year old bastiges owe me money......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
from your article....



when I was 64 my premiums were already over $16,420 a year.....the author of your source is obviously just making up random numbers......
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Did you notice that the article said "could" and Norberg takes that as they actually did?

Those numbers aren't randomly made up. The author of the source to get them actually had to reach around and pull them from his ass.
 
You get nothing. The tax bill has not gone into effect yet. People are telling you that you will get a tax break from it, and you believe it just fine. I show you that you many are going to pay more for insurance and you are suddenly a skeptic because it has not happened yet. You know that the tax bill ends the insurance mandate, don't you? Do you think insurance companies are just going to absorb that loss of revenue? Do you? Can you follow the Harvard Business Review. https://hbr.org/2017/12/how-the-new-u-s-tax-plan-will-affect-health-care
 
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Nordberg said:
You get nothing. The tax bill has not gone into effect yet. People are telling you that you will get a tax break from it, and you believe it just fine. I show you that you many are going to pay more for insurance and you are suddenly a skeptic because it has not happened yet. You know that the tax bill ends the insurance mandate, don't you? Do you think insurance companies are just going to absorb that loss of revenue? Do you? Can you follow the Harvard Business Review. https://hbr.org/2017/12/how-the-new-u-s-tax-plan-will-affect-health-care
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it seems strange to me that your argument is that insurance companies aren't going to absorb the loss in revenue while insisting that corporations absorb the cost of taxes........
 
Ralph said:
What snowflake logic. The one's that will save with the tax cuts are the one's who freely and willingly use the products and or services provided by these evil ass corporations. NEWS FLASH: Every time demonrats raise the taxes on a business.....guess who actually pays those taxes? THE CONSUMER. Dumb Asses.....high taxes are what cause and generate INFLATION. Taxes are what make a loaf of bread that once cost 50cents now cost $2.50 cents. Nothing is FREE in this nation regardless of what your communist profs tell you....THE CONSUMER pays for everything in this nation.

So....you are in your safe space IF......you are not a consumer of products, never purchase a product or service and provide EVERYTHING for YOURSELF. This generation of snowflakes is the most dependent and helpless in US History. They continue to prove they are incapable of critical independent thinking.....they have been trained to be herded around like the sheep they are...grazing off the hard work of others in their safe little pastor....until they are required to be clipped or slaughtered when their usefulness is over. Real Radicals...these snowflakes......BAHHHHHHHHHH! BAHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Leftists act as if several things are not true. 1. The money belongs to those who earned it....it does not belong to Big Brother. 2. No one is forced to use a product or service in this nation (its call FREE MARKET CAPITALISM)......well that was true until THE DEMOCRATS forced the young to redistribute their earned income to the older generator...i.e., the O.....bammmmmmmmmmy Mandate. just like in mother Russia.....Hillary might need a new hip replacement sooner than later.
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This is possibly the funniest comment here. The insane Idea that your going to live in the richest country in the world without paying taxes is a laugh. The right somehow is told this but the mental collapse is they believe it. You hate our government because they take your money and have the gaul to spend it where needed and not just for yourself. Now that is funny. How small a mind can a person have who thinks that governments and countries can be run without taxes. My thinking is that since we are the richest country in the world are taxes would be the highest in the world. Hell they aren't even close to the highest taxes in the world. There is zero correlation between taxes and Profits, or percentage of gross that is profits or rate of increase in profits or GDP or wage levels. So tell me again why would you cut taxes when every amount of the tax cut is going directly to our deficit. You people are clowns.
 
jbander said:
This is possibly the funniest comment here. The insane Idea that your going to live in the richest country in the world without paying taxes is a laugh. The right somehow is told this but the mental collapse is they believe it. You hate our government because they take your money and have the gaul to spend it where needed and not just for yourself. Now that is funny. How small a mind can a person have who thinks that governments and countries can be run without taxes. My thinking is that since we are the richest country in the world are taxes would be the highest in the world. Hell they aren't even close to the highest taxes in the world. There is zero correlation between taxes and Profits, or percentage of gross that is profits or rate of increase in profits or GDP or wage levels. So tell me again why would you cut taxes when every amount of the tax cut is going directly to our deficit. You people are clowns.
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Almost half, if not already more than half, don't pay income taxes.

How do you think taxes can be cut on the 50% that do not pay that very tax? If they're paying zero percent, they can't pay less. Many that aren't paying those taxes used programs funded by those very taxes while those funding the programs don't use them. It's the same as me paying my annual dues to the golf course where I'm a member and the course telling me I can't use it because those that didn't pay want to play.
 
Eagle Eye said:
"There is a common misconception that high-income Americans are not paying much in taxes compared to what they used to. Proponents of this view often point to the 1950s, when the top federal income tax rate was 91 percent for most of the decade.[1] However, despite these high marginal rates, the top 1 percent of taxpayers in the 1950s only paid about 42 percent of their income in taxes. As a result, the tax burden on high-income households today is only slightly lower than what these households faced in the 1950s."
https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-rich-1950-not-high/
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Your comment means nothing unless you also throw in the fact that business paid over 1/3 of the federal taxes. during the 50's. and now they pay 7%. Both routes put money into the hands of the wealthy.
 
CFM said:
Almost half, if not already more than half, don't pay income taxes.

How do you think taxes can be cut on the 50% that do not pay that very tax? If they're paying zero percent, they can't pay less. Many that aren't paying those taxes used programs funded by those very taxes while those funding the programs don't use them. It's the same as me paying my annual dues to the golf course where I'm a member and the course telling me I can't use it because those that didn't pay want to play.
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anyone have a clue on this???? We will throw this at him again-- There is zero correlation between taxes and Profits, or percentage of gross that is profits or rate of increase in profits or GDP or wage levels. Also the reality of tax's paid into this government, less then half comes from personal income tax. So no the wealthy don't pay for the running of this country. Like the haters would want you to believe.
 
CFM said:
In my state, if they don't pay federal income taxes, they don't pay state income taxes. In my state, there is no sales tax on groceries. In my state, no city has a separate income tax, but if they did, the poor wouldn't pay it anyway.

Most poor receive public assistance which means they aren't using their own money in the first place. If they're not paying because they're not working, perhaps they should get a job and quit demanding the rest of us fund their handouts.
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This clown has zero clue what he is talking about.
 
jbander said:
anyone have a clue on this???? We will throw this at him again-- There is zero correlation between taxes and Profits, or percentage of gross that is profits or rate of increase in profits or GDP or wage levels. Also the reality of tax's paid into this government, less then half comes from personal income tax. So no the wealthy don't pay for the running of this country. Like the haters would want you to believe.
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I didn't mention profits.

47% of the federal government's revenue comes from personal income taxes, something that only half the wage earners actually pay. How many of those that don't pay into that pot draw from it through handout programs they believe they deserve?
 
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