As it relates to a militia, just what it says halfwit, Pretty sad when ignoramuses like you ask the meaning of the most basic words. Do you have any argument? Or just came in to prove what a dumb halfwit we already know you are?
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As it relates to a militia, just what it says halfwit, Pretty sad when ignoramuses like you ask the meaning of the most basic words. Do you have any argument? Or just came in to prove what a dumb halfwit we already know you are?
floridafan
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You are like a fucking two year old, with a temper tantrum. Either things are done exactly your way or you scream and cry endlessly.
Now document what the framers said, but of course you cant. your all bull shit.
You misspelled NiftyNiblick halfwit.
When it comes to criminal thugs breaking down your door, it is used as a defensive weapon halfwit. I wish you had a brain. Even half a brain. Run along. It's apparent you don't know what you are talking about as usual.
^Why you cannot argue with an idiot like AProudLefty.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
So what happens if a militia is unregulated, fucktard?
floridafan
Verified User
More IRONY from a halfwit that doesn't know shit.
I am far from an expert, handjob, that's why I do my research and only post facts. Those are abhorrent to your kind.
ROTFLMFAO!!!!! Scalia is not a constitutional expert, but some fucking schmuck on the internet is. You just can't make this stuff up.
Scalia CV: "Scalia attended a Roman Catholic high school in New York City and graduated at the top of his class from Georgetown University (A.B., 1957) in Washington, D.C. He attended Harvard Law School, where he edited the prestigious Harvard Law Review and graduated in 1960. He then worked for a law firm in Cleveland, Ohio (1961–67), before moving to Charlottesville, Virginia, where he taught at the University of Virginia School of Law (1967–74). During his tenure at Virginia, he served the federal government as general counsel to the Office of Telecommunications Policy (1971–72) and as chairman of the Administrative Conference of the United States (1972–74). In 1974 Scalia left academia to serve as assistant attorney general in the Office of Legal Counsel of the U.S. Department of Justice."
SmarterThanYou CV: "Typed some fucking stupid shit on an internet chat board'
Yep, got it.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
you're like a cowardly moron who demands the government make you feel safer by ignoring their constitutional limits. you are a failure as an American if you need a government entity to explain the constitution to you.
There are other things so clearly out of the power of Congress, that the bare recital of them is sufficient, I mean the "...rights of bearing arms for defence, or for killing game..." These things seem to have been inserted among their objections, merely to induce the ignorant to believe that Congress would have a power over such objects and to infer from their being refused a place in the Constitution, their intention to exercise that power to the oppression of the people. —ALEXANDER WHITE (1787)
As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms. — Tench Coxe in `Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution' under the Pseudonym "A Pennsylvanian" in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1.
The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed;... — Thomas Jefferson to Justice John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:45.
"An act of usurpation is not obligatory; it is not law; and any man may be justified in his resistance."
-Theophilus Parsons, January 23, 1788
That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of The United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms... — Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87
The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them. — Zachariah Johnson, 3 Elliot, Debates at 646
I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them. — George Mason, during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788)
The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give to Congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretense by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both. — William Rawle, A View of the Constitution 125-6 (2nd ed. 1829)
Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people. — Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
then it is incumbent upon those who ARE well trained and working to teach them
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
So that means licenses and training are required, much like driving.
The second amendment isn't about rights. Apparently you didn't learn shit in school or read my summary. The Constitution does not "confer" rights, it LIMITS Governments infringement on them halfwit.
Where does the Constitution define what weapons you are permitted to have? It's painfully obvious that leftist halfwits have never actually read, nor have the IQ to comprehend what the Constitution is and does.
Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.[/QUOTE]
UNITED STATES v. MILLER is flawed law. The Constitution does not define what is a legal gun. It merely states that the Government cannot abridge the right to own a gun.
......the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
Where does it talk about types of guns halfwit?
Ironic coming from a halfwit dullard who adds ZERO to the debate. Why don't you try to have a coherent argument with me over the topic of this thread instead of engaging in your predictable thread trolling stupidity?
I'll tell you why. Because you know I would mop the floor with your empty head with the facts. Marxist morons like you don't like facts. They scare you because it reduces your dogma to the lie filled stupidity we know it to be.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
training, yes. licenses? not even a little bit.
Not an argument. It's a weak, incredibly moronic meme. Do you have anything else other than asinine memes, halfwit?
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Why not?
You misspelled floridafan. If ever there was a definition of a lack of self awareness, this is it.
More irony from the halfwit.
Funny, you haven't documented anything the framers said. But you do have looking like a dishonest halfwit down pat.
Here's some quotes to help enlighten you, assuming of course, that anything can get through to that tiny little closed mind of yours:
“A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…” – George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790
“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787
“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
“To disarm the people…is the most effectual way to enslave them.” – George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788
“I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.” – George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.” – Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787
“Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.” – James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788
“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.” – James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789
“…the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone…” – James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” – William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783
Militia is not the argument of the second amendment halfwit. Again, for low IQ, uneducated halfwits, the Constitution does not confer rights on the people. It LIMITS Government from infringing upon those rights.
See above quotes from the founders for further clarification you boorish halfwit. And do run along. You're incapable of intelligent and coherent debate.