The Death of an American City: Detroit

Steelplate said:
Yeah...what's your.point? You think that 64% gets divvied out equally? You don't think that the 19% doesn't count?
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no, it doesn't get divvied out equally......that's the source of funding just for Detroit.......most schools in the state are reversed.....getting 19% from the state and paying 64% locally....

the point is tax base isn't a factor in poor schools.....Detroit gets more per student than any other school district in the state....from what I recall Detroit's spending per student is in the top ten nationally along with places like Washington DC and Buffalo NY.....
 
Panda Hugger said:
Yeah, when on the verge of bankruptcy, clearly the only reasonable solution is to reduce income.

New York city has an income tax as well, yet it is a booming metropolis and financial center. The income tax in both cities us miniscule compared to the federal or state ones and anyone seriously taking it into account when deciding where to live us an ideologically driven dumbass.
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You're only focusing on the last and lease important of my arguments.
 
According to the Atlantic:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...eed-to-know-about-detroits-bankruptcy/277958/

The big three provide 27k jobs in Detroit. This is a massive decline, from over 200,000 several decades ago, but it is several times your figure of just 9k. As such, I find your figures highly questionable. They're rather pointless anyway - it would be more useful to tell us what percentage of the workforce is public vs. private, simply throwing the top employers at us tells us little, because there might simply be a large number of small companies with few employees. You're statistics, dubious as they are, hide that from us.
 
Panda Hugger said:
According to the Atlantic:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...eed-to-know-about-detroits-bankruptcy/277958/

The big three provide 27k jobs in Detroit. This is a massive decline, from over 200,000 several decades ago, but it is several times your figure of just 9k. As such, I find your figures highly questionable. They're rather pointless anyway - it would be more useful to tell us what percentage of the workforce is public vs. private, simply throwing the top employers at us tells us little, because there might simply be a large number of small companies with few employees. You're statistics, dubious as they are, hide that from us.
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Well, again, it depends on how you measure 'Detroit'. People can work in Taylor, or Romulus, or, Livonia, which is practically Detroit, but not Detroit. It really helps if they'd define their terms.
 
See all the bright yellow? That's actual Detroit, which is pretty fucking huge to start with. But everything on this map that isn't CANADA, is practical Detroit.
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Attila the Hun said:
See all the bright yellow? That's actual Detroit, which is pretty fucking huge to start with. But everything on this map that isn't CANADA, is practical Detroit.
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well, yeah....except for Hamtramick, and Grosse Pointe Park, and Highland Park and Dearborn and Livonia and Plymouth and Royal Oak and Ferndale and.......

not to mention that half of Detroit that's vacant land......
 
Don’t buy the right-wing myth about Detroit

Voted4Reagan said:
This Thread is for CONSTRUCTIVE DEBATE ONLY. No NAME CALLING, SWEARING or RACE BAITING WILL BE PERMITTED. CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS AND SOLUTIONS ONLY!


ALL POLITICS ASIDE:

The continued decline of the City of Detroit is something I never thought I would see in my lifetime. It dates back to the 1700's, has a great history, culture and was at one time the shining example of the American Dream.

50 years of economic mismanagement has left it largely abandoned. by some estimates some 60 to 70% of private houses sit empty, abandoned, foreclosed or simply burned to the Ground.

And it is now spreading outward... As jobs and industry continue to flee the City and it's Metro area the blight is spreading outside of the city into what were the suburbs of Metro Detroit. When will it stop?

For those of you that want... Post pictures here of what you remember DETROIT to be.

Detroit is a city on the edge of total collapse, top 8 employers in the city are either Government or Municipal Unions that produce NOTHING.

Detroit needs BUSINESS.. It's two biggest employers are The City of Detroit and Detroit Public Schools

GM and Chrysler are # 9 and #10 on the list and dont employ that many people Combined!

The top employers in Detroit are: (BLUE NAMES are Government/Municipal Unions)

1 Detroit Public Schools 13,750
2 City of Detroit 13,187
3 Detroit Medical Center 10,499
4 Henry Ford Health System 8,502
5 U.S. Government 6,335
6 Blue Cross Blue Shield 6,000
7 Wayne State University 5,019
8 State of Michigan 4,910
9 General Motors 4,652
10 Chrysler 4,517
11 U.S. Postal Service 4,106
12 Quicken Loans 4,000
13 St. John Health System 3,818
14 DTE Energy 3,771
15 Wayne County 3,674
16 MGM Grand Detroit 3,000
17 Compuware 2,597
18 MotorCity Casino 2,424
19 American Axle 1,990
20 Greektown Casino 1,800
21 Comerica 1,706

General Motors and Chrysler employ 9,000 People. But when you have GOVERNMENT and MUNICIPAL UNIONS as your top employers you are in massive trouble. They EARN NO MONEY...THEY SELL NO GOODS. They are paid for by the State! The State gets it from TAXES and the tax base has been declining for 50 years!

The City needs major help, but a Bailout isnt going to fix this. Industry built this city and only industry will save it.

What constructive Ideas would you recommend to the City of Detroit to help them save themselves?

What are the Biggest Problems?
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http://www.salon.com/2013/07/23/dont_buy_the_right_wing_myth_about_detroit/?source=newsletter

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