The Dem era of Big government and spending is over...

tigerred59 said:
Both Obama and Biden like most Democrats who win elections after Republicans inherit nothing but GOP debt. Obama inherited bank failures and a mortgage crisis equal to the great depression of 1939 and Biden came in under the worst pandemic since 1919, both required an increase in spending. And no disrespect to the room, the Tiger is never and I mean never ever wrong, so put some respect on my comments, dude.
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And one more thing as I said before the Republicans have run us into 10 of the last 11 recessions , some really deep ones too, and it looks like Trump is going to make it 11 out of 12.
 
QP! said:
Yup.

Obama did it in exactly the way it is meant to be done. The reason you are supposed to be responsible and run balance budgets or surpluses during good years (clinton) is so that if the next Potus takes over during really bad years, he can use debt and lower interest rates to stimulate the economy and pull us out.

People hate comparing gov;t to managing a home but it is the same in that very basic way. When you are in your prime good earnings years you do not want to push debt to crippling levels and then if you have a period of lesser income you can lean on that, if you need to.

But Republicans NEVER want to hand the Dems a well managed healthy economy as then the citizens would support some increased social spending. It is because of Trumps wild spending and addition to the debt the Republicans will scream at the next Dem gov't 'we are broke, have too much debt and cannot afford that...', and the only reason it will resonate with many citizens is because Trump will leave America in deep debt and trouble.
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but you want to replace citiziens with immigrants.

is that what you do to the children in your home?
 
Ichabod Stain said:
I'm against.

yes. maga has become a farce.

it's a dead movement.

trump is a full on fuckface neocon lie sack.

who's still correct on tariffs and immigration.
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you can look at this forum and see Maga is not dead as 8 of 10 magats here, like @TOP @FastLane , etc are clapping like seals wanting Trump to go around the world and 'start wars with and get rid of bad people in endless wars'.

Trump has proposed a budget that absolutely guts all tax payer investments at home for the citizens of the US and gives all the money to the Military complex for wars abroad and you will only see magats on this forum clap louder at that.
 
QP! said:
you can look at this forum and see Maga is not dead as 8 of 10 magats here, like @TOP @FastLane , etc are clapping like seals wanting Trump to go around the world and 'start wars with and get rid of bad people in endless wars'.

Trump has proposed a budget that absolutely guts all tax payer investments at home for the citizens of the US and gives all the money to the Military complex for wars abroad and you will only see magats on this forum clap louder at that.
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but all we need to save the economy is to force American companies to produce here and hire Americans only.

this is the proper way of structuring incentives to work decently with market principles, and benefit the citizenry.
 
Ichabod Stain said:
but all we need to save the economy is to force American companies to produce here and hire Americans only.

this is the proper way of structuring incentives to work decently with market principles, and benefit the citizenry.
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No.

You cannot have leaders with Trump who will continue to tax more and more and run bigger and bigger deficits while sending almost ALL of that money out to the Industrial Military complex to fund his wars to rid the world of 'bad people', with America fully assuming the role of the Worlds Policeman.

To say as you are that is ok as long as we 'force American to produce here and hire Americans only' is naive to the extreme.

American tax payer money cannot just be a toy for the War mongers wanna be toy soldiers. American taxpayer money must be spent on making lives better in the homeland.
 
QP! said:
No.

You cannot have leaders with Trump who will continue to tax more and more and run bigger and bigger deficits while sending almost ALL of that money out to the Industrial Military complex to fund his wars to rid the world of 'bad people', with America fully assuming the role of the Worlds Policeman.
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i agree.

QP! said:
To say as you are that is ok as long as we 'force American to produce here and hire Americans only' is naive to the extreme.
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it's the solution. globalism is stupid. we've already won the resource war. and that what it boils down to. China has no resources.

we have all we need in our North AMerican Union.
QP! said:
American tax payer money cannot just be a toy for the War mongers wanna be toy soldiers. American taxpayer money must be spent on making lives better in the homeland.
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I agree. but government spending cannot be the solution to everything.
 
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Ichabod Stain said:
i agree.



it's the solution. globalism is stupid. we've already won the resource war. and that what it boils down to. China has no resources.

we have all we need in our North AMerican Union.

I agree. but government spending cannot be the solution to everything.
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you misread my second point which was a reply to you saying this...

"... all we need to save the economy ..."

When you say that, it reads as if you are saying we do not need to worry or care about Trump being a NeoCon war hawk and sending all the America tax payer money out of country to fund his endless wars. It sounds like you are conceding that does not matter to you as long as he ".. force American companies to produce here and hire Americans only..." then you are ok with him going out and being the Neocon war monger sending all those tax dollars outside the country.
 
QP! said:
you misread my second point which was a reply to you saying this...

"... all we need to save the economy ..."

When you say that, it reads as if you are saying we do not need to worry or care about Trump being a NeoCon war hawk and sending all the America tax payer money out of country to fund his endless wars.
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I'm against neocon stupidity, but tariffs and jobs for Americans are actually the most important thing.

QP! said:
It sounds like you are conceding that does not matter to you as long as he ".. force American companies to produce here and hire Americans only..." then you are ok with him going out and being the Neocon war monger sending all those tax dollars outside the country.
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this is correct. though it is best to also stop neoconism.
 
Tbird19482 said:
And one more thing as I said before the Republicans have run us into 10 of the last 11 recessions , some really deep ones too, and it looks like Trump is going to make it 11 out of 12.
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That's what the fuck they do, spend spend spend, all they know how to do, is get elected and that's it.

But here's the fucked up part.....Their party stays silent with all the spending, they fall in line and the nano second a Democrat takes back the Oval Office....Not only do the GOP become fiscal hawks, the American fuckin stupid wants shit fixed yesterday. The GOP always manages to put all the blame on the shoulders of Democrats and these dumb motherfuckers fall for the shit, time after time after time. Number one reason I loathe Democrats. They can't manage majorities, the sitting President becomes nothing but political fodda for the GOP to attack the minute its time to balance budgets. AND THE VERY PEOPLE THAT VOTE THEM INTO OFFICE, IE LIBERALS...ARE THE VERY FIRST THEY TOSS INTO THE FIRE.
 
Tbird19482 said:
Why wouldn't I respect your post?
I agree with it 100%
Republicans run the economy into the ground and the Dems have to come back in and get it back on track again.
And they have been doing it for years.
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No disrespect to you nor the room, its just a sayin I use to end shit sometimes. I am in total support and agreement with everything you stand for and post. Have a blessed day, friend and keep up the goodness in your commentary.
 
QP! said:
you can look at this forum and see Maga is not dead as 8 of 10 magats here, like @TOP @FastLane , etc are clapping like seals wanting Trump to go around the world and 'start wars with and get rid of bad people in endless wars'.

Trump has proposed a budget that absolutely guts all tax payer investments at home for the citizens of the US and gives all the money to the Military complex for wars abroad and you will only see magats on this forum clap louder at that.
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He had to do that he and his sons have to make millions in their drone business.
 
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Welcome to the new era of MASSIVE gov't and spending on the Military, as Trump tries something new that America has never done before by taking money out of Domestic priorities that help citizens at home and instead send the money out to the Military Complex. :rofl2:


Trump asks Congress to supersize military budget, slash domestic programs​

The president’s fiscal 2027 budget request calls for Republicans to use a partisan procHe is also spending loke crazy on the White House, The Kennedy Center andn ss for enacting billions for the Pentagon.

President Donald Trump called Friday for Congress to back a $1.5 trillion defense budget alongside yawning reductions to domestic programs — making official the ambitious military increase he’s been teasing for months....
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Ichabod Stain said:
but you want to replace citiziens with immigrants.

is that what you do to the children in your home?
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They augment them. Immigration has been the key to American growth for a century. They expand our economy. They pay taxes and start businesses.
 
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