The Democrat's “do nothing" house.

The Republican Party thus far have been retaining their base. Trump has his own (thus far) very well attached base. Since the election of President Obama, Republicans openly declared and maintained absolutely uncompromising positions as their policy on all issues.

Democrats efforts to compromise, negotiate and appease Republicans (by arguing and negotiating only within the Democratic Party itself), has been detrimental to both the nation and the Democratic Party. Abandoning the party's populist heritage has been detrimental to our nation while effectively whittling away support for Democratic candidates in general elections. Voters will not, and should not support an “us too, but not so much” party. ...
What exactly is your point about the dem party??
Bill and Gonzomin, I thought the post Bill quoted from was explicit. What is it that you guys find ambiguous? Respectfully, Supposn
 
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I think I agree overall w/ what you are saying, but~“us too, but not so much” party. ...??
Bill, the (me too but less right-wing than Republicans,) Democratic leadership accomplished nothing by betraying Democrats' populist heritage. I've been registered as Democrat after leaving the military service in 1959.
In 2010 I joined the Green Party. Presidents Carters' and Obama's excessive gentlemanly behavior had exhausted my patience. If we're being urinated upon, we should not pretend that it's raining.

My major political priorities are economic rather than environmental, but the Green Party offered the closest proximity to my populist opinions. I'll risk Republicans winning elections, rather than squandering my vote that contributes to the plurality of a party that's appeasing the opponents of populism. I did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party has left me.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
I did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party has left me.
my mantra as well.
The dems have become elitists do 'nothings', with no interest for the working class.
the progressives (AOC etc.) are idiots
 
Bill, the (me too but less right-wing than Republicans,) Democratic leadership accomplished nothing by betraying Democrats' populist heritage. I've been registered as Democrat after leaving the military service in 1959.
In 2010 I joined the Green Party. Presidents Carters' and Obama's excessive gentlemanly behavior had exhausted my patience. If we're being urinated upon, we should not pretend that it's raining.

My major political priorities are economic rather than environmental, but the Green Party offered the closest proximity to my populist opinions. I'll risk Republicans winning elections, rather than squandering my vote that contributes to the plurality of a party that's appeasing the opponents of populism. I did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party has left me.

Respectfully, Supposn

I am not a dem either & have voted green..

IMHO the dems are not going to win the wht house unless they change their focus to be more inclusive (to groups they don't like, progressives, working class etc)..

I am very, very unlikely to vote dem but living in Calif that doesn't mean much..
 
my mantra as well.
The dems have become elitists do 'nothings', with no interest for the working class.
the progressives (AOC etc.) are idiots

Kinda like mine leaving the soCalled conservative party.. I am now an indi, & you a card carrying member of the gop??
 
my mantra as well.
The dems have become elitists do 'nothings', with no interest for the working class.
the progressives (AOC etc.) are idiots

I do agree mostly there but I don't think all progressives are idiots, & I know you don't either..
 
What party is for a higher minimum wage? What party is behind alternative energy? Which one wants to clean the environment? Which one wants to curb banking excesses? Which one wants universal healthcare? Who wants to slash college costs?
The platforms I back are in the Democratic Party.
 
Bill and Gonzomin, I thought the post Bill quoted from was explicit. What is it that you guys find ambiguous? Respectfully, Supposn

You are suggesting the Dems are not voteworthy because that have not passed legislation. The fact is the process require any legislation to go through a 3 step process that includes the Republican Senate and President. They do not have the ability to get anything done, even though they have passed over 100 pieces of legislation so far in the house. Your premise actually says the Repubs do not deserve consideration.
 
What party is for a higher minimum wage? What party is behind alternative energy? Which one wants to clean the environment? Which one wants to curb banking excesses? Which one wants universal healthcare? Who wants to slash college costs?
The platforms I back are in the Democratic Party.

Which one is for farmers?? Which one is for steel workers?? Miners??

Those use to be core dem constituencies, now they don't even make the cut.....
 
lol, they use to be pro-union, NAFTA & that sucking sound took care of that illusion..

It is far more complicated and nasty than that. Unions get absolutely no positive press and have not in decades. The anti-union rhetoric is so ubiquitous, that it all you hear. A few decades ago union busting occurred in the newspaper industry. Profitable newspapers were closed and mergers to make cities one paper towns happened. Now most are.
When I discuss unions with young 20s at my club they are all anti-union. Ask them why and they come up blank. They just know that they are bad. The messaging has won.

The wealthy have demonized teachers, postal workers and government employees. Easy to see why, they have unions. Teachers are among the most dedicated of employees. They are people who want to do good. But the wealthy will slam them until the unions are gone.

Unions fought for the 40 hour work week, time and a half overtime, healthcare, safer working conditions, vacations, and decent pay. The Repubs and plutocrats are ending them all.
An employee has no power against a company or a boss. All the workers together do. Guess who benefits when unions are ended?
 
It is far more complicated and nasty than that. Unions get absolutely no positive press and have not in decades. The anti-union rhetoric is so ubiquitous, that it all you hear. A few decades ago union busting occurred in the newspaper industry. Profitable newspapers were closed and mergers to make cities one paper towns happened. Now most are.
When I discuss unions with young 20s at my club they are all anti-union. Ask them why and they come up blank. They just know that they are bad. The messaging has won.

The wealthy have demonized teachers, postal workers and government employees. Easy to see why, they have unions. Teachers are among the most dedicated of employees. They are people who want to do good. But the wealthy will slam them until the unions are gone.

Unions fought for the 40 hour work week, time and a half overtime, healthcare, safer working conditions, vacations, and decent pay. The Repubs and plutocrats are ending them all.
An employee has no power against a company or a boss. All the workers together do. Guess who benefits when unions are ended?

:hand: :hand: exactly right..............
 
You are suggesting the Dems are not voteworthy because that have not passed legislation. The fact is the process require any legislation to go through a 3 step process that includes the Republican Senate and President. They do not have the ability to get anything done, even though they have passed over 100 pieces of legislation so far in the house. Your premise actually says the Repubs do not deserve consideration.
Gonzomin, I advocate the federal minimum wage rate be increased 12.5% annually until it achieves 125% of its February-1968 purchasing power and thereafter annually adjusted to retain that purchasing power.

I suppose if I knew the specific "cap and trade" proposal to regulate carbon pollution, I'd probably be a proponent of that; I'm very concerned about global warming".

I want to restore most of the Republican changes to the Dodd-Frank Act for regulating the banking industry. Republican legislation regarding the financial industries that lacked bipartisan support has generally been contrary to the public's interests.

I'm pleased that the United States has begun (as all other of the world's industrial nations already do), recognize access to medical treatment as a human right and concern of their government.
[I believe regardless if a person is or is not medically insured, all legal USA residents should be entitled to government relief from catastrophic medical costs. The government, not the insurers would bear those catastrophic costs except an insuence organization would be held financially responsible if those costs were directly or indirectly due to persons when insured, not receiving reasonably appropriate medical treatment and screening services].

It's illogical for a nation to require great financial sacrifices of students and then complain about the high costs of professional services.

Democratic candidates pay"lip service to some of the same concepts you and I advocate, but after election day, they expect their promises to be forgotten.
I don't hold Democrats responsible for the Republican Senate majority; I don't hold Democrats responsible for what President Trump's administration does; I hold Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats responsible for not passing populist House bills and not taking whatever actions that's in their power to hinder the administration anti-populist actions.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
Gonzomin, I advocate the federal minimum wage rate be increased 12.5% annually until it achieves 125% of its February-1968 purchasing power and thereafter annually adjusted to retain that purchasing power.

I suppose if I knew the specific "cap and trade" proposal to regulate carbon pollution, I'd probably be a proponent of that; I'm very concerned about global warming".

I want to restore most of the Republican changes to the Dodd-Frank Act for regulating the banking industry. Republican legislation regarding the financial industries that lacked bipartisan support has generally been contrary to the public's interests.

I'm pleased that the United States has begun (as all other of the world's industrial nations already do), recognize access to medical treatment as a human right and concern of their government.
[I believe regardless if a person is or is not medically insured, all legal USA residents should be entitled to government relief from catastrophic medical costs. The government, not the insurers would bear those catastrophic costs except an insuence organization would be held financially responsible if those costs were directly or indirectly due to persons when insured, not receiving reasonably appropriate medical treatment and screening services].

It's illogical for a nation to require great financial sacrifices of students and then complain about the high costs of professional services.

Democratic candidates pay"lip service to some of the same concepts you and I advocate, but after election day, they expect their promises to be forgotten.
I don't hold Democrats responsible for the Republican Senate majority; I don't hold Democrats responsible for what President Trump's administration does; I hold Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats responsible for not passing populist House bills and not taking whatever actions that's in their power to hinder the administration anti-populist actions.

Respectfully, Supposn

It is not lip service. the Dems as both Clinton and Obama showed are trying to fix those problems.However they do not have the power to do it. The ACA was a first stsep. If Hillary was in office, we would have fixed some of its problems and worked toward a fairer and more humane system. Trump and the Repubs are trying to kill it and return to the system they ran against for decades. Our system is unsustainable. Both Dems and Repubs have ran against our system. But the reds, policies keep it in place. They are lying about wanting to fix our terrible healthcare system.
 
you lot are pikers......minimum wage should be $350,000 an hour......by the end of the year everyone would as rich as Bill Gates and income equality would finally be achieved........
 
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