The Electoral College fringe expands

archives said:
Virus is not disappearing in four months, but regardless of events, few elections in recent time have been as one sided as some feel this one will be, come election day, it will be a close election
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you have already forgotten how one sided some felt the Clinton-Trump election was supposed to be......
 
Dutch Uncle said:
At least Trump will take a shellacking. One reason the Republican Governors, Senators and Representatives are suddenly pro-mask, pro-no school is so they too won't have their asses shellacked in the election.

Trump probably would have won the election had he not botched the COVID crisis.....plus saved himself a BILLION bucks! I had money on him to win and now that money is probably lost. Now the betting site says it'll be Biden.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/3698/Who-will-win-the-2020-US-presidential-election
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You have more faith than I do in that. Too little, too late. Coming out in favor of masks now is like shutting your gate a month after your dog ran away. The ppl who have been wearing them all along know you're a science-denying, #COVID45-toadying idiot. The anti-maskers are pissed that you caved and see it as you being weak.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You have more faith than I do in that. Too little, too late. Coming out in favor of masks now is like shutting your gate a month after your dog ran away. The ppl who have been wearing them all along know you're a science-denying, #COVID45-toadying idiot. The anti-maskers are pissed that you caved and see it as you being weak.
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Agreed. Still, when the President of the nation says there isn't a crisis, I can see why those on the backside of the IQ Bell Curve may be lulled into complacency. This is why it's so important for our nation to have good leadership. Unfortunately we don't as shown by the political party nominees in both 2016 and 2020.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. Still, when the President of the nation says there isn't a crisis, I can see why those on the backside of the IQ Bell Curve may be lulled into complacency. This is why it's so important for our nation to have good leadership. Unfortunately we don't as shown by the political party nominees in both 2016 and 2020.
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I'd vote for a cow patty over #TRE45ON, and I'm not alone. Those low-IQ, low-info types are just going to have to grumble and stew for the next eight years while the rest of us try to rebuild what that fucker destroyed.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I'd vote for a cow patty over #TRE45ON, and I'm not alone. Those low-IQ, low-info types are just going to have to grumble and stew for the next eight years while the rest of us try to rebuild what that fucker destroyed.
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It'll only be four since Biden is a one-term President. :)
 
Penderyn said:
It strikes me that, whatever the result, Trumpf can't afford to go willingly. I do hope you can rely on the Army.
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The US isn't a Third World Shithole like Trump treats it. The moment another President is sworn in, Trump will be escorted....or carried....out the door as a trespasser by the Secret Service who have a sworn duty to protect the duly elected President.

In an ideal world, Trump will go live on television, refuse to leave then pull a gun and start shooting from the Oval Office. The entire world would see how the Secret Service treats violent trespassers by emptying their Sig magazines into Trump's oblate spheroid body.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The US isn't a Third World Shithole like Trump treats it. The moment another President is sworn in, Trump will be escorted....or carried....out the door as a trespasser by the Secret Service who have a sworn duty to protect the duly elected President.

In an ideal world, Trump will go live on television, refuse to leave then pull a gun and start shooting from the Oval Office. The entire world would see how the Secret Service treats violent trespassers by emptying their Sig magazines into Trump's oblate spheroid body.
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Hope they videotape that, I'd watch it even more times than I've seen Avatar. lol
 
floridafan said:
We are now about six weeks into a downturn in Donald Trump’s polling numbers.

It’s worth thinking about the ramifications of this change if it endures.

In the RealClearPolitics average of national approval polling, Trump went from about early December to late May without ever dipping below -10 in net approval (approval minus disapproval). He has spent every day since June 1 at or below -10 net approval, and he’s currently at about -15.

Joe Biden’s national polling lead over Trump during May was in the four-to-six-point range. That was a decent lead, but not one that suggested Biden was a towering favorite, particularly because Trump was able to win in 2016 without winning the popular vote. But since early June, Biden’s lead has ballooned to the eight-to-10-point range. He has also enjoyed healthy leads in many polls of the most important swing states, like Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

The bottom line here is that the nation is in a state of terrible crisis, and the public has, at least for now, judged the president’s responses to both coronavirus and protests of racial inequalities in policing to be lacking.

In an ABC News/Ipsos poll released Friday, 67% of respondents disapproved of Trump’s handling of coronavirus and of race relations.

2020 is shaping up to be a bad year in American history, which Republican lobbyist Bruce Mehlman illustrates in his latest look at the political environment. It is not the kind of year when one wants to be an incumbent running for reelection, and a majority of the public appears to believe that this president is not meeting the moment.

A few weeks into the public health crisis, we explored the possibility of Trump being the second iteration of Jimmy Carter, whose reelection bid fell apart among myriad crises in 1980. Since then, the Trump-as-Carter scenario has grown even more plausible.

There is time for the situation to change — as we wrote a few weeks ago, we want to see where things stand after the conventions, around Labor Day. But Trump is extremely unlikely to win if the polls continue to look the way they do now. And if these numbers represent a new normal, we need to account for the possibility that this election won’t be particularly close, and that new states may come into play. In other words, if the national picture remains bleak for Trump, then the slippage he’s seen from earlier this year wouldn’t just be limited to a handful of swing states

http://centerforpolitics.org/crysta...ctoral-college-the-fringe-of-the-map-expands/
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HUGE thread FAIL, ff, HUGE thread FAIL.:|
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Hope they videotape that, I'd watch it even more times than I've seen Avatar. lol
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Me too, but it won't happen. Even if Trump has to be sedated and carried out the back door on a gurney, the sanctity of the office will be preserved....no matter how many times Trump shit on it.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I predict that the (R)s are going to take a major shellacking this November. If you get your opinions on that strictly from the RWers here you might think that #TRE45ON's base is still loyal. You would be wrong. Just the fact that he can't get more than a handful of the formerly faithful to show up at his love-me-long-time-please rallies tells you a lot.
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2006 all over again , plus
 
Michael_Panetta said:
How about every candidate running for office be required to take both an IQ test and a civics test?
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I'm good with that too. If the office involves control of the military, then they need to have served, in some capacity, for the US government overseas. Military, diplomatic corps, liaisons.
 
StoneByStone said:
It has elections, so it's a Democracy.
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No:

1. The Electoral college (rightfully) overrides the popular vote if needed

2. Generally, pure democracy (e.x. referendums) is not allowed; rather laws are decided by elected or appointed officials, not "the mob"

Democracy (aka rule by the rabble or mob) is the 2nd worst form of government there is, which is why the US and no modern 1st world nation is or ever has been one, and for good reason
 
MarcusA said:
The Electoral college (rightfully) overrides the popular vote if needed
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Unfortunately, that's true. However, this rarely happens in practice. As far as I know, a Faithless Elector has never changed the outcome of an election. And if that was to happen today, the backlash would be enormous.
We don't have a perfect Democracy, especially considering Trump didn't even get more votes than Hillary, but still won. But Democracy isn't black and white. We have a Democracy, it's just not a very good one.

Democracy (aka rule by the rabble or mob) is the 2nd worst form of government there is, which is why the US and no modern 1st world nation is or ever has been one, and for good reason
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I agree. The 1st worst form of government is every other form.
 
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