The Founding Fathers and Republicans

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It is unfortunate that the right wing is so ignorant of the original intent of the Founders, and the purpose of the Constitution. Yet they are, and perhaps that is why they are in the minority supporting a form of government that was not described by the "Great Experiment" called the United States:

http://legal-planet.org/2012/07/04/...e-in-a-strong-national-government-you-betcha/

"But there was a group who wanted a weak national government. They were called the anti-Federalists, and they were appalled by the proposed Constitution. These believers in small-government fought tooth-and-nail against adoption of the Constitution. They lost.

If the supporters of the Constitution had wanted a government “small enough to drown in a bathtub” (in the words of Grover Norquist), they already had one before the Constitution was even conceived. The Articles of Confederation gave Congress few powers and made it procedurally almost impossible to exercise even those. Norquist would have been thrilled: there was no tax power at all.

If he’d been around, Norquist presumably would have opposed the Constitution for authorizing new taxes. Today’s tea party members would surely have been opponents of the Constitution as well. The Constitution is, first and foremost, a grant of power to the federal government. The Founding Fathers consciously sacrificed state sovereignty in the interests of national unity.

The whole point of the Constitution was to make the federal government much stronger than it had been. The Constitutional Convention left no doubt on that score. It explained its goals at the same time it made the Constitution public. Here are some key statements:

The friends of our country have long seen and desired, that the power of making war, peace, and treaties, that of levying money and regulating commerce, and the correspondent executive and judicial authorities should be fully and effectually vested in the general government of the Union . . .

It is obviously impractical in the federal government of these states, to secure all rights of independent sovereignty to each, and yet provide for the interest and safety of all. . .

In all our deliberation on this subject we kept steadily in our view, that which appears to us the greatest interest of every true American, the consolidation of our Union . . .

These statement are from a letter signed by George Washington after being unanimously endorsed by the Constitutional Convention. Nowhere does it say: “our goal was to make the federal government as small as possible.”

The text of the Constitution bears out the letter by promising among other things a “more perfect Union” that would “promote the general Welfare.” The Constitution also gives Congress an impressive list of powers. The list includes the well-known powers to “regulate Commerce . . . among the several states” and to collect taxes to provide for “the general Welfare of the United States.” But it also includes a host of other powers: raising an army, establishing uniform national laws on naturalization and on bankruptcy, coining money and regulating its value, issuing patents and copyrights, and making treaties. On top of that,Congress can make laws that don’t fall within this list of powers but are “necessary and proper” to carry them out. The Europeans are currently suffering from the failure to give the EU similar powers."
 
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I used to try and get the right to discuss the anti fed papers

they always refused to


because they are the anti fed party


all their debates come from the losing side
 
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-wing-memes&highlight=anti+federalist+papers


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the federalist papers, the documents which kill all the right wing memes
want to discuss the federalist papers?



we can start right with number one and work our way through.


The right will be seen for what they are.


You people on the right take the side of the antifederalists and NOT the good ones.
 
the republican party has been purchased by foreigners long ago



they began cheating in elections and Quickly became very blackmailable
 
the buyers then began getting the republicans to LIE about our nation and its founding to undermine the nation
 
In our early days, corporations were chartered by the government. If they did things that went against the public welfare, they could lose their charter. How many corporations would survive that scrutiny?
 
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