The Fraudocrats are back to "Blacks (and now women, too!) are Too Stupid to Obtain IDs and Vote "

Gee, where are all the "Voter IDs are Jim Crow 2.0" imbeciles?

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I have an ID, it’s called a drivers license. I got married and in order to change my name on my driver’s license I had to present a marriage license and my birth certificate. I should not be required to show additional ID when I vote because my name on my ID is different from my birth certificate. I’ve already proved it at the DMV.
 
The comedy here is that Voter ID fraud has been exposed as a myth, and even more so, obtaining some government ID is just walking in and picking one up. The need to have a Real ID to fly has been publicized and echoed for close to ten years now and still a good number of people walk into airports without one, and these clowns think mandating a Voter ID is easy
It IS easy because just about every adult with an IQ higher than a leftist has an ID. The only reason to oppose requiring an ID to vote is you want to cheat. The talking point you morons try to advance is blacks and now women would not be able to vote because they can't get an ID. If you REALLY.believe that bullshit you should be mercilessly ridiculed
 
I have an ID, it’s called a drivers license. I got married and in order to change my name on my driver’s license I had to present a marriage license and my birth certificate. I should not be required to show additional ID when I vote because my name on my ID is different from my birth certificate. I’ve already proved it at the DMV.
That's the most asinine thing I've ever heard. By your reasoning since I've already proven who I am to the DMV I shouldnt have to show the policeman, who stopped me for speeding my ID. For that matter why do I ever need to have my license with me to drive? Just like voting I should be able to tell the cop.my name and everything should be a-ok. I've already proven who I am to the dmv, right? Fucking idiot
 
It IS easy because just about every adult with an IQ higher than a leftist has an ID. The only reason to oppose requiring an ID to vote is you want to cheat. The talking point you morons try to advance is blacks and now women would not be able to vote because they can't get an ID. If you REALLY.believe that bullshit you should be mercilessly ridiculed
Voter ID is a modern poll tax.

There is no problem with voting in America.
 
That's the most asinine thing I've ever heard. By your reasoning since I've already proven who I am to the DMV I shouldnt have to show the policeman, who stopped me for speeding my ID. For that matter why do I ever need to have my license with me to drive? Just like voting I should be able to tell the cop.my name and everything should be a-ok. I've already proven who I am to the dmv, right? Fucking idiot
We are talking about voting: not speeding.

You do not understand logic at all.
 
Challenges to voting rights in this country are hardly a 21st-century invention. Entrenched groups have long tried to keep the vote out of the hands of the less powerful. Indeed, the United States began its great democratic experiment in the late 1700s by granting the right to vote to a narrow subset of society — white male landowners. Even as barriers to voting began receding in the ensuing decades, many Southern states erected new ones, such as poll taxes and literacy tests, aimed at keeping the vote out of the hands of African American men and other targeted groups.

Over time, voting rights became a bipartisan priority as people worked at all levels to enact constitutional amendments and laws expanding access to the vote based on race and ethnicity, gender, disability, age, and other factors. The landmark Voting Rights Act of 1965 took major steps to curtail voter suppression. Thus began a new era of push-and-pull on voting rights, with the voting age reduced to 18 from 21 and the enshrinement of voting protections for language minorities and people with disabilities.

Greater voter enfranchisement was met with fresh resistance in 2013, when the U.S. Supreme Court undermined the Voting Rights Act in its ruling on Shelby County v. Holder, paving the way for states and jurisdictions with a history of voter suppression to enact restrictive voter identification laws. In the years after the ruling, states passed a slew of new restrictions on voting, including new voter ID laws, limits on early voting, and the closure of thousands of polling places nationwide.

These activities have a demonstrable and disproportionate effect on populations that are already underrepresented at the polls. Adding to the problems, government at all levels has largely failed to make the necessary investments in elections (from technology to poll-worker training) to ensure the integrity and efficiency of the system.

The thing that seems to be forgotten by the Right wing idiots is that if we apply the standard that is applied to the second amendment when it comes to voting then IDs can never be required because there is no history of IDs being required in the 1700s or 1800s.
 
Rightys are such insulting jerks and liars. The reason that blacks and minorities would have more trouble getting an ID is due to lack of money and often a lack of transportation. It also impacts old people of all colors for similar reasons. The reason the right wants extra ID is that those groups lean left. It is another voter suppression technique. The thought is that lower turnout helps the Reds.
Older people have more trouble finding their birth certificates. The hospitals where they were born at merged or got bought up. They are often not on computers, so finding where the certs and waiting for the process is a problem.
I went through a lot of grief getting my proof to obtain a passport. It also cost a few bucks.
 
It IS easy because just about every adult with an IQ higher than a leftist has an ID. The only reason to oppose requiring an ID to vote is you want to cheat. The talking point you morons try to advance is blacks and now women would not be able to vote because they can't get an ID. If you REALLY.believe that bullshit you should be mercilessly ridiculed
Love it when MAGAs are totally clueless on the topic but still keep offering shit

Ah, not any ID that is being specified, but an official government ID, one everyone would have to acquire, and, submit proof of citizenship when acquiring this ID, have you tried to get your original birth certificate lately. And that doesn’t even accommodate anyone who might have moved prior to Election Day or a women who recently married and took her husband’s name

And for what, Voter ID fraud has been proven as nearly nonexistent

If you are going to exchange at least know what you are talking about
 
Love it when MAGAs are totally clueless on the topic but still keep offering shit

Ah, not any ID that is being specified, but an official government ID, one everyone would have to acquire, and, submit proof of citizenship when acquiring this ID, have you tried to get your original birth certificate lately. And that doesn’t even accommodate anyone who might have moved prior to Election Day or a women who recently married and took her husband’s name

And for what, Voter ID fraud has been proven as nearly nonexistent

If you are going to exchange at least know what you are talking about
As I said before just about every adult with an IQ higher then a l leftists has an official govt ID.

Why would you oppose people proving who they are before they vote? Do they have to do that to purchase a gun? That's a right just like voting. I'll make you a deal let's have as many hoops to jump through to vote as we have for buying a gun. Deal?
 
As I said before just about every adult with an IQ higher then a l leftists has an official govt ID.

Why would you oppose people proving who they are before they vote? Do they have to do that to purchase a gun? That's a right just like voting. I'll make you a deal let's have as many hoops to jump through to vote as we have for buying a gun. Deal?
We are talking about classes of citizens limited by health, transportation, dollars, etc., to inhibits getting ID easily.

And 'voting fraud' of any serious nature has never been shown to exist. Ever.
 
As I said before just about every adult with an IQ higher then a l leftists has an official govt ID.

Why would you oppose people proving who they are before they vote? Do they have to do that to purchase a gun? That's a right just like voting. I'll make you a deal let's have as many hoops to jump through to vote as we have for buying a gun. Deal?
What a dork, it’s not an ID, not a driver’s license, a social security card, whatever, it is an official government issued ID everyone would have to obtain to vote, try to keep up

No need for a voter ID, as noted, the voter ID myth has been debunked, so why take the chance of disenfranchising current voters over nothing, well, unless there is an alternative motivation, which we all know there is

And voting doesn’t come close to endangering others as does a dimwit with a gun, voting never massacred little kids in a school nor injured over four hundred people attending an outdoor concert
 
What a dork, it’s not an ID, not a driver’s license, a social security card, whatever, it is an official government issued ID everyone would have to obtain to vote, try to keep up

No need for a voter ID, as noted, the voter ID myth has been debunked, so why take the chance of disenfranchising current voters over nothing, well, unless there is an alternative motivation, which we all know there is

And voting doesn’t come close to endangering others as does a dimwit with a gun, voting never massacred little kids in a school nor injured over four hundred people attending an outdoor concert
I don't give a shit your idiot. If you can get a driver's license you can get any ID that's required. This fucking whining that you people do constantly gets tiring. Kids eventually grow out the whiny stage but you useless dicks never do
 
I don't give a shit your idiot. If you can get a driver's license you can get any ID that's required. This fucking whining that you people do constantly gets tiring. Kids eventually grow out the whiny stage but you useless dicks never do
In other words, regardless of reality, the facts, you just want everyone to have a Government issued Voter ID because Trump wants one, why don’t you just admit it rather than continuing to embarrass yourself expressing a total lack of information on the issue
 
In other words, regardless of reality, the facts, you just want everyone to have a Government issued Voter ID because Trump wants one, why don’t you just admit it rather than continuing to embarrass yourself expressing a total lack of information on the issue
I would have no problem with people presenting a driver's license to prove who they are. You're pissing into the wind here buddy. The question is are they citizens as I'm sure we could agree we don't want non citizens voting? Correct?
 
I would have no problem with people presenting a driver's license to prove who they are. You're pissing into the wind here buddy. The question is are they citizens as I'm sure we could agree we don't want non citizens voting? Correct?
Not what is being called for, drivers licenses wouldn’t be accepted as proof, has to be an official government voting ID and noncitizen don’t vote, and don’t regurgitate all the nonsense of noncitizens being able to vote in certain local elections
 
I don't give a shit your idiot. If you can get a driver's license you can get any ID that's required. This fucking whining that you people do constantly gets tiring. Kids eventually grow out the whiny stage but you useless dicks never do

They are not needed, Yakuda. You need to calm down, or you will have a stroke.
 
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