The Gay Debate

AssHatZombie said:
Yes. when people say gay they mean male homosexuals. hence PFLAG (Parents and Friends of Lesbians And Gays). you are stupid.
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So, now we have it then. First of all, you're wrong, in NY's large gay scene, gay women call themselves, well, gay women.

More importantly, you are on no moral high ground, you don't give a shit about families, you are just another guy with a phobia of men getting it on with each other, but who loves to hear about, or better yet, watch, two women doing it.

A dime a dozen. That's what you are AHZ.
 
Battleborne said:
and pray tell donny where is the so called genetic evidence to prove your sides hypothesis...there is absolutely none...albeit a hamaphrodite could fall into this category and would be the only case accepted...they however can go either way...male or female!


also please post a link supporting your claim that it is not a fetish and proven...this should be interesting!
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This has been covered over and over again that gayness is a psychologicl situation not a product of choice. (tho I admit that with some it is likely a choice.) with others it is a trait (call it weakness or whatever) There is no scientific evidence either way.
 
Darla said:
So, now we have it then. First of all, you're wrong, in NY's large gay scene, gay women call themselves, well, gay women.

More importantly, you are on no moral high ground, you don't give a shit about families, you are just another guy with a phobia of men getting it on with each other, but who loves to hear about, or better yet, watch, two women doing it.

A dime a dozen. That's what you are AHZ.
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Why does pflag make the distinction? obviously they're homophobes. You're a brainless twit.
 
Lol...

AssHatZombie said:
Why does pflag make the distinction? obviously they're homophobes. You're a brainless twit.
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Hey she has usc hooked...he thinks she will relieve him of his pain...if'n he cowers to her desire to attack 'anyone with a brain' stolen from the 'Wizard of Oz'
Darla is the 'Wicked Witch!
 
AssHatZombie said:
Why does pflag make the distinction? obviously they're homophobes. You're a brainless twit.
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Why do YOU make the distiniction? Try speaking for yourself for once.

If your concern is the family, and making it normal not to procreate, what on earth would the gender of the couple have to do with it?

Face it, you're just another pervy homophobe, ranting about gay men, while running home to open your newest swedish girls lost on an island dvd.

A dime a dozen, like I said.
 
Battleborne said:
Hey she has usc hooked...he thinks she will relieve him of his pain...if'n he cowers to her desire to attack 'anyone with a brain' stolen from the 'Wizard of Oz'
Darla is the 'Wicked Witch!
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Shut up dummy, and stop projecting your own desires onto other people.
 
Donny.....

doniston said:
This has been covered over and over again that gayness is a psychologicl situation not a product of choice. (tho I admit that with some it is likely a choice.) with others it is a trait (call it weakness or whatever) There is no scientific evidence either way.
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You are probably a nice old guy(who means well -yet confused)...seeking acceptance..thats cool but please..if you want acceptance...only reply when you have the facts...not talking points from players...okay?
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Really now....

uscitizen said:
BB time to cut off the beers for today it sounds like...
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Let's see I am on the first beer...stoking the bbq about now...and how many pain killers have you dropped today...never mind you won't be honest in your reply...a typical lib resoponse is expected...lmao!
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Darla said:
Why do YOU make the distiniction? Try speaking for yourself for once.

If your concern is the family, and making it normal not to procreate, what on earth would the gender of the couple have to do with it?

Face it, you're just another pervy homophobe, ranting about gay men, while running home to open your newest swedish girls lost on an island dvd.

A dime a dozen, like I said.
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I make the distinction because the distinction is made in quotidien parlance.

Like I said, a brainless twit. give it up, darla.
 
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Battleborne said:
***sigh*** I did not insinuate that anyone who is hetro and masturbates is a closet gay...I simply stated that in my opinion homosexuality is 'ultimate masturbation' or a sexual fetish...and not worthy of marriage rights...I also believe that everyone has masturbated in their growing up phase...then moved on as adults to the real deal...just part of life...homosexuals have not moved on thus they continue masturbating...it is my opinion and could care less if anyone disagrees..libs claim to be inclusive and ask for opinions when in fact all you want is total agreement with your opinions...sorry I am a Independent thinker out of the proverbial box...like it or not it is my opinion...live with it! or not!
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I am not a liberal, but a libertarian. Your views that same sex couples have to jump through more hoops to get the same protection for their rights could have been just as easliy used in the 60's to deny interracial couples the right to marry. I also find your qualifying marriage as between two people who are going to have children as narrow minded and limited. Using your logic, then a couple where one person is sterile or both parties are so old as to be beyond child rearing should not be able to marry even if they are a man and a woman. Same goes for people who make a choice NEVER to have kids. In my family lone three of the five siblings in my dads family have chosen never to have children. Should they be excluded from the marriage contract? Marriage has nothing what so ever to do with child rearing. Every state in the union has abandoned the idea of legitimate vs illegitimate children so marriage is no longer a necessity for having children. IMO you have chosen some logical not so rabid sounding reasons to justify your belief that same sex couples should be denied equal protection under our laws.
 
Battleborne said:
Let's see I am on the first beer...stoking the bbq about now...and how many pain killers have you dropped today...never mind you won't be honest in your reply...a typical lib resoponse is expected...lmao!
:cof1:
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I am still waiting for you to back up your lies on the other thread BB....
 
Not....Mr Greek wannabee...play on screen name...

Socrtease said:
I am not a liberal, but a libertarian. Your views that same sex couples have to jump through more hoops to get the same protection for their rights could have been just as easliy used in the 60's to deny interracial couples the right to marry. I also find your qualifying marriage as between two people who are going to have children as narrow minded and limited. Using your logic, then a couple where one person is sterile or both parties are so old as to be beyond child rearing should not be able to marry even if they are a man and a woman. Same goes for people who make a choice NEVER to have kids. In my family lone three of the five siblings in my dads family have chosen never to have children. Should they be excluded from the marriage contract? Marriage has nothing what so ever to do with child rearing. Every state in the union has abandoned the idea of legitimate vs illegitimate children so marriage is no longer a necessity for having children. IMO you have chosen some logical not so rabid sounding reasons to justify your belief that same sex couples should be denied equal protection under our laws.


Opposite couples with a medical problem of not being able to conceive is not on the table...they could raise 'Normal' adjusted kids quite well..nice try with the racial BS...'Race Card'...won't y'all ever learn...barking up the wrong tree here!***sigh***
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Battleborne said:
You are probably a nice old guy(who means well -yet confused)...seeking acceptance..thats cool but please..if you want acceptance...only reply when you have the facts...not talking points from players...okay?
;)
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There are some things so well known and well covered that it is pointless to post links. this is one of those cases. You never fail to show your jackassedness, do you.
 
Battleborne said:
Socrtease said:
I am not a liberal, but a libertarian. Your views that same sex couples have to jump through more hoops to get the same protection for their rights could have been just as easliy used in the 60's to deny interracial couples the right to marry. I also find your qualifying marriage as between two people who are going to have children as narrow minded and limited. Using your logic, then a couple where one person is sterile or both parties are so old as to be beyond child rearing should not be able to marry even if they are a man and a woman. Same goes for people who make a choice NEVER to have kids. In my family lone three of the five siblings in my dads family have chosen never to have children. Should they be excluded from the marriage contract? Marriage has nothing what so ever to do with child rearing. Every state in the union has abandoned the idea of legitimate vs illegitimate children so marriage is no longer a necessity for having children. IMO you have chosen some logical not so rabid sounding reasons to justify your belief that same sex couples should be denied equal protection under our laws.
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Opposite couples with a medical problem of not being able to conceive is not on the table...they could raise 'Normal' adjusted kids quite well..nice try with the racial BS...'Race Card'...won't y'all ever learn...barking up the wrong tree here!***sigh***
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Ok then what about couples that CHOOSE not to have kids. Should you have to sign an affidavit stating that absent a medical problem, they WILL have children? You are attempting to legitimate your prejudice by saying that the ONLY reason people get married is to have kids. That makes Bob Dole's second marriage a nullity then because Elizabeth chose NOT to have children but to pursue a career. I am sorry that you you myopic righties cannot see that the former laws against mixed race marriages and same sex marriages are based on ignorant prejudice. As for NORMAL adjusted kids being raised by opposite couples, are you insinuating that ALL children raised outside of married hetero couples are not "normal"? Would like to see the research on that one. Especially compared to children raised by same sex couples, which horror of horrors actually happens in this country that supposedly values freedom and equality.
 
This is a redundant argument..............

Socrtease said:
Battleborne said:
Ok then what about couples that CHOOSE not to have kids. Should you have to sign an affidavit stating that absent a medical problem, they WILL have children? You are attempting to legitimate your prejudice by saying that the ONLY reason people get married is to have kids. That makes Bob Dole's second marriage a nullity then because Elizabeth chose NOT to have children but to pursue a career. I am sorry that you you myopic righties cannot see that the former laws against mixed race marriages and same sex marriages are based on ignorant prejudice. As for NORMAL adjusted kids being raised by opposite couples, are you insinuating that ALL children raised outside of married hetero couples are not "normal"? Would like to see the research on that one. Especially compared to children raised by same sex couples, which horror of horrors actually happens in this country that supposedly values freedom and equality.
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Hetro couples who choose not to conceive children could still be 'Normal' adoptive parents...the 'Natural Selection' thingee..get a grip dude way too much coolaid you have ingestide!
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side note..homosexual same sex couples... is just plain wrong...History proved this long ago...'Roman Empire' and 'Spartans' as a small and prime example!

Back to History 101 with ya!
 
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