The GOP’s Huge, Growing Modernity Gap!

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/09/the-gop-s-gaping-growing-modernity-gap.html

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blackascoal said:
Teabaggers won't .. republicans will .. AND, they will still hold onto the House.

.. and, Christie could win in 2016.
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Well as Pete Rose would say.....wanna bet? A million more people voted for Democratic congressmen in the last election than voted Republicans. Republicans maintained control of the house due to Gerrymandering at the State level which gives rural districst disproportionate representation so your argument doesn't hold water. The likely hood that Republicans resume control of the Senate in 2014 are slim at best.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Well as Pete Rose would say.....wanna bet? A million more people voted for Democratic congressmen in the last election than voted Republicans. Republicans maintained control of the house due to Gerrymandering at the State level which gives rural districst disproportionate representation so your argument doesn't hold water. The likely hood that Republicans resume control of the Senate in 2014 are slim at best.
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I hear people talk about the Democrats got a million more votes for the House but that's without fully looking at the reasoning behind it. For example, in California our primary system it's not longer just R vs. D it's the top two vote getters. So we had two Democrats running against each other. Therefore you had Republicans voting for a Democrat who normally wouldn't. That alone doesn't make up the million vote difference but it plays a role in it.

And if you don't like the urban vs. rural vote setup change the Voting Rights Act. In order to 'protect' minority voters they get bunched together. Let them be more spread out and you'll see more Democratic votes in those non urban areas.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Well as Pete Rose would say.....wanna bet? A million more people voted for Democratic congressmen in the last election than voted Republicans. Republicans maintained control of the house due to Gerrymandering at the State level which gives rural districst disproportionate representation so your argument doesn't hold water. The likely hood that Republicans resume control of the Senate in 2014 are slim at best.
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I absolutely do wanna' bet.

What are democrats going to run on?

Obamacare?

Elect us because republicans are warmongers?

Elect us because republicans will spy on every American?

Elect us because republicans will attack civil liberties?

Elect us because republicans will attack Social Security and Medicare?

Any idea which party has the easier path to claiming the House or Senate?

None of this is meant to talk you out of a bet .. just letting you know who has the advantage.
 
cawacko said:
I hear people talk about the Democrats got a million more votes for the House but that's without fully looking at the reasoning behind it. For example, in California our primary system it's not longer just R vs. D it's the top two vote getters. So we had two Democrats running against each other. Therefore you had Republicans voting for a Democrat who normally wouldn't. That alone doesn't make up the million vote difference but it plays a role in it.

And if you don't like the urban vs. rural vote setup change the Voting Rights Act. In order to 'protect' minority voters they get bunched together. Let them be more spread out and you'll see more Democratic votes in those non urban areas.
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That's total nonsense and the voting rights act has nothing to do with it. Republican State houses have gerrmandered districts so that they disproportionately favor rural districts.

Here in Ohio Cleveland/Columbus/Cincinnati/Dayton & Toledo metro areas represent 2/3rd of the population of the State but of the State's 18 representatives only 7 of them are apportioned to those metropolitan areas representing 2/3rd's of the States population while the remaining 11 are apportioned to rural districts representing only 1/3 of the States population so you are factually wrong.
 
blackascoal said:
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I absolutely do wanna' bet.

What are democrats going to run on?

Obamacare?

Elect us because republicans are warmongers?

Elect us because republicans will spy on every American?

Elect us because republicans will attack civil liberties?

Elect us because republicans will attack Social Security and Medicare?

Any idea which party has the easier path to claiming the House or Senate?

None of this is meant to talk you out of a bet .. just letting you know who has the advantage.
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OK a pint of your favorite brand of Ben & Jerry's that Dems retain control of the Senate in 2014. Deal? :)
 
Mott the Hoople said:
That's total nonsense and the voting rights act has nothing to do with it. Republican State houses have gerrmandered districts so that they disproportionately favor rural districts.

Here in Ohio Cleveland/Columbus/Cincinnati/Dayton & Toledo metro areas represent 2/3rd of the population of the State but of the State's 18 representatives only 7 of them are apportioned to those metropolitan areas representing 2/3rd's of the States population while the remaining 11 are apportioned to rural districts representing only 1/3 of the States population so you are factually wrong.
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What do you mean it's total nonsense? It's fact. And yes I understand how gerrymandering works but you are gravely mistaken if you think legislatures in certain states can gerrymander without having to follow the laws of the voters right act.
 
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