The irony is so rich I can't fucking stand it

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http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/upiUPI-20130531-114407-6464

In Chicago a democrat haven which pretty much outlaws handguns no less.

I thought the purpose of gun buyback programs was to get them off the street? It would appear that in Chitown it is just a recycling business. I wonder what kind of "profit" the police dept is going to turn on these bitches?

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I fucking love it

I banned Desh from this thread because her only contribution will be to bitch about the source
 
Socrtease said:
You banned everyone else so you don't have to debate.
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a) There is nothing to debate
b) you obviously don't pay much attention because I ALWAYS ban Howey, Darla, and Topspin. I sometimes ban Grind just for shits and giggles. Desh was a recent addition
c) I obviously didn't ban EVERYONE because your dumbass managed to post

Seriously, does Damo have you mods take an IQ test before blessing you as mods?
 
Another interesting link- where the guns recovered in Chicago came from -
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/29/us/where-50000-guns-in-chicago-came-from.html?_r=0

If the Chicago laws were spread statewide, that could help.

However, I admit, that better than gun buybacks would be not letting the guns out there in the first place. As an LA times editorial said -
“Really cutting down on the bloodshed will require meaningful legislation and tougher enforcement. That’s harder to pull off than a gun buyback program: Good PR almost invariably is simpler than good policy.”
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(source: http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/12/opinion/ed-buybacks12 )

Perhaps you'll join me in a call for stronger gun laws throughout Illinois as a better deterrent than gun buybacks?
 
tekkychick said:
Another interesting link- where the guns recovered in Chicago came from -
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/29/us/where-50000-guns-in-chicago-came-from.html?_r=0

If the Chicago laws were spread statewide, that could help.

However, I admit, that better than gun buybacks would be not letting the guns out there in the first place. As an LA times editorial said -

(source: http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/12/opinion/ed-buybacks12 )

Perhaps you'll join me in a call for stronger gun laws throughout Illinois as a better deterrent than gun buybacks?
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Oh goodness no would I join you in calling for more limits on my 2nd Amendment rights. Are you willing to give up your 1st Amendment rights? Are you willing to register and have a three day waiting period to exercise your 1st Amendment rights?

BTW The brits want their guns back. 82% of them in fact.

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3644/britain_wants_its_guns_back
 
First amendment rights are already restricted - I can't shout "fire" in a crowded theater; I have to apply for a permit before a parade.

Gun ownership can have restrictions; the only discussion is what kind of restrictions.

But back to gun buyouts - wasn't it Arizona where they had a law that actually required cops to resell the guns that they purchased in a gun buyback program? Oh yes, there is a story about that - Yes, Arizona; conservative Arizona; forces cops to sell back guns in a buyback. I'm guessing dems weren't really involved in passing this law. No, it was pro-gun people wanting to protect every gun.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/05/phoenix-arizona-gun-buyback_n_3219056.html
 
tekkychick said:
Another interesting link- where the guns recovered in Chicago came from -
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/29/us/where-50000-guns-in-chicago-came-from.html?_r=0

If the Chicago laws were spread statewide, that could help.

However, I admit, that better than gun buybacks would be not letting the guns out there in the first place. As an LA times editorial said -

(source: http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/12/opinion/ed-buybacks12 )

Perhaps you'll join me in a call for stronger gun laws throughout Illinois as a better deterrent than gun buybacks?
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what laws would those be?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
what laws would those be?
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Basically, spread Chicago's laws through the rest of the state. One of their problems as shown on the link I posted is that gun laws just outside the city are much more lax and so they are brought into the city from those areas.

Personally, I would like to have California's gun control laws become standard throughout the country.
 
tekkychick said:
Basically, spread Chicago's laws through the rest of the state. One of their problems as shown on the link I posted is that gun laws just outside the city are much more lax and so they are brought into the city from those areas.

Personally, I would like to have California's gun control laws become standard throughout the country.
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currently, Illinois is a home rule state, which means that any locality can make any gun law stricter than state law, but not less restrictive. so you have to be a bit more specific on which of chicagos gun laws you would like to see all of illinois have to abide by. Mind you, I'm from Illinois so I have knowledge of their gun laws.

california just passed some of the most onerous gun laws to date, which will surely be ruled unconstitutional as soon as they reach the courts.

why don't you just repeal the 2nd amendment and start confiscations?
 
tekkychick said:
Basically, spread Chicago's laws through the rest of the state. One of their problems as shown on the link I posted is that gun laws just outside the city are much more lax and so they are brought into the city from those areas.

Personally, I would like to have California's gun control laws become standard throughout the country.
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I won't groan a newbie but the above certainly makes me groan. Might as well just go ahead with full blown European type gun laws...that's what the Brady's, Feinstein's and others of similar ilk really seem to want.
 
I don't believe in beating my head against a wall, so therefore won't try to repeal the second amendment. There are other amendments I would like to see that have a better chance of passage.

I'd be fine with European type laws as well, but am only asking for California laws. And why? because of the carnage. I really don't like seeing people murdered. Guess I'm just crazy that way. California laws won't stop all the shootings. But they will be reduced.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html
 
Oh, darn it; there I go off topic again.

The original poster was talking about dems who pass tight gun laws in Chicago, hold gun buybacks, just to have the cops resell them.

I pointed out that repubs in Arizona actually passed a law REQUIRING cops to resell guns purchased in gun buy backs.

Not sure if the original poster has just said anything negative about those republicans?
 
leaningright said:
I won't groan a newbie but the above certainly makes me groan. Might as well just go ahead with full blown European type gun laws...that's what the Brady's, Feinstein's and others of similar ilk really seem to want.
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It must be a woman thing, leaningright, most women I know just aren't that fond of guns, but birds of a feather also stick together. I guess it has something to do with being the bringer of joy and life.
 
tekkychick said:
I don't believe in beating my head against a wall, so therefore won't try to repeal the second amendment. There are other amendments I would like to see that have a better chance of passage.

I'd be fine with European type laws as well, but am only asking for California laws. And why? because of the carnage. I really don't like seeing people murdered. Guess I'm just crazy that way. California laws won't stop all the shootings. But they will be reduced.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html
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so, in your mind, 'shall not be infringed' doesn't mean much to you?
 
Rana said:
It must be a woman thing, leaningright, most women I know just aren't that fond of guns, but birds of a feather also stick together. I guess it has something to do with being the bringer of joy and life.
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I was going to stay out of this thread because of the offensive title but just couldn't when the California gun laws were brought up. It seems that so many want a European type of society over here from our gun laws to our morals to our social programs (some of these I am for) and I shudder to think of that type of society all across our country without a place like my home...where the women are still the bringers of joy and life (at least most of them ;)) but still want their kids to learn how to handle firearms safely and efficiently. I have no desire to be "like them" in a lot of areas...especially when it comes to firearm ownership.
 
tekkychick said:
First amendment rights are already restricted - I can't shout "fire" in a crowded theater; I have to apply for a permit before a parade.

Gun ownership can have restrictions; the only discussion is what kind of restrictions.

But back to gun buyouts - wasn't it Arizona where they had a law that actually required cops to resell the guns that they purchased in a gun buyback program? Oh yes, there is a story about that - Yes, Arizona; conservative Arizona; forces cops to sell back guns in a buyback. I'm guessing dems weren't really involved in passing this law. No, it was pro-gun people wanting to protect every gun.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/05/phoenix-arizona-gun-buyback_n_3219056.html
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You are obviously going out of your way to miss the point. Do you have to "register" to exercise your First Amendment rights? You see the problem with gun registration is that it PRESUMES you are guilty. That is wrong.

What does Arizona have to do with the OP? Oh yeah, not a fucking thing. Did Arizona say they were going to destroy them and do something different? Oh yeah, not they fucking didn't

New libbie, same old bullshit
 
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